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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:35 am



In one of the largest organized marches in the history of the world, tens of millions of Shia Muslims made an incredibly heartening statement, by risking their lives to travel through war-stricken areas to openly defy ISIS. This massive event that would have undoubtedly helped to ease tensions in the West was almost entirely ignored by corporate media.
Women, men, elderly, and children made their way to the city of Karbala on Sunday and Monday last week for the holy day of Arbaeen. Arbaeen is the event which marks the end of the 40-day mourning period following Ashura, the religious ritual that commemorates the death of the Prophet Mohammad’s grandson Imam Hussein in 680 AD.
As the Independent reports, massive crowds paid homage to the shrines of Imam Hussein and his half-brother Abbas in Karbala, where they were killed in a revolt against the Umayyad ruler Yazeed in the 7th century AD when they refused to pledge allegiance to Yazeed’s Umayyad caliphate.
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Registering only as a blip on the Independent, this most amazing feat was conducted in spite of ISIS, as well as the sacred annual pilgrimage.
As the UK paper notes, the march comes as nearly 80 people, many of them pilgrims returning from commemorating Arbaeen in Karbala, were killed in the latest Isis attack in the area.
Isis has declared Shia Muslims apostates and targeted them in its bloody campaign to establish a hardline caliphate across Iraq and Syria, according to the Independent.


The brave men, women, and children marched on, knowing that an ISIS suicide bomber had just struck near Karbala the week prior.
In recent years, this march has taken on a dual purpose. Where it was once a march for Arbaeen, it now also encompasses the Shia resistance and protest against ISIS terrorists.
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“I came walking from Basra with my wife and three sons … This is the third time. We started walking 13 days ago and reached Karbala on Sunday night,” said Pilgrim Jaber Kadhem Khalif.
According to the Independent, the 40-year-old said his prayers would go to the Hashed al-Shaabi paramilitary group that has tens of thousands of men deployed on the front lines to fight ISIS.
Umm Ali, who came without her husband, as he is currently fighting ISIS on the front lines, said, “I came with my son and two daughters. I came from Samawa to Najaf by car, then from Najaf to Karbala on foot, to make a plea for my husband’s safety.
“We ask God to support us against Daesh [ISIS] members, to help us liberate Mosul and urge our politicians to remember the people who have sacrificed so much.”
In spite of this pilgrimage being one of the most massive marches in the world, the West conveniently ignored it. Arbaeen is magnitudes larger than the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca — yet Mecca is the only event that ever receives headlines in the West. Given the recent revelation that the Shia Muslims are also marching against Daesh, one can’t help but wonder why this isn’t all over American news.
According to the Independent, organizers of the annual Arbaeen procession in U.K. have previously spoken of their frustration over the lack of mainstream media coverage of the event.
“Unfortunately [some] media outlets have gone for stories that to some extent can be divisive. If a group of Muslims does something good, it’s not mentioned or the religion is not mentioned. But if someone does something [negative], it is on the front page and their religion is mentioned,” Mohammed Al-Sharifi, a volunteer at last year’s event told the Independent.
And he is right.
Many of the stories on Muslims in the U.S. that make it on to the mainstream are those that stoke divide. When a Muslim hero saves hundreds of lives by jumping on a bomb — which actually happened in July — the mainstream and the Islamophobic alternative media is mum.
Those who would judge 1.6 billion people by the actions of just a few are creating a narrative in which innocent lives are put in danger.
Throughout history, most mainstream religions have perpetuated extreme violence upon the world. To attempt to paint Islam as the problem is no better than labeling all Catholics murders for the inquisition.
But peace and empathy are enemies to the establishment who need you to hate others. When the establishment can paint things as black and white, it is easier for you to be controlled. Consequently, this is the exact mission of ISIS.
As the Free Thought Project’s Jay Syrmopolous points out, if there is one thing that Islamic fundamentalists and Islamophobic fascists agree on, it’s that there should be no “gray zone;” only black and white.
The gray zone is the zone of peaceful coexistence. Eliminating the gray zone – and rendering a world as black & white as the flag of the Islamic state is the ultimate goal of fundamentalists on all sides.
In fact, a recent ISIS publication, titled Extinction of the Grayzone made clear that the strategy has been at play for the past 14 years.
“The grayzone is critically endangered, rather on the brink of extinction. It’s endangerment began with the blessed operation of September 11th, as these operations manifested two camps before the world for mankind to choose between, a camp of Islam… and a camp of kufr – the crusader coalition.”
The way to truly defeat ISIS is by rendering their fear and divisive tactics impotent. We need to show ISIS, and those being manipulated by their tactics, that tolerance and freedom are far more powerful than bigotry and hate — which is why, coincidentally, not a single American mainstream outlet reported on the tens of millions of Muslims marching against ISIS.
Please share this story with your friends and family who may find themselves subject to the fear mongering in the media of Muslim violence. You can bow down to the will of ISIS by allowing their hate-filled rhetoric and divisive tactics to cloud your mind with fear and hatred. Or, you can rise up and stand against those who would drive a wedge through the heart of humankind. The choice is yours.
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Re: 20 Million Muslims March Against ISIS and The Mainstream Media Completely Ignores

Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:58 am

Why wasn't this reported in the mainstream media?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:05 am

eddie wrote:Why wasn't this reported in the mainstream media?

Because it's a regular event? If it wasn't announced in advance that it was also a march against ISIS, it would be ignored by the press.

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:08 am

It is NOT  regular event.   Do you thing millions of people march when they could be blown up for marching regularly?   FFS!!!


And Eddie, you must know WHY it wasn't reported surely.

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:22 am

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eddie wrote:Why wasn't this reported in the mainstream media?

Because it's a regular event? If it wasn't announced in advance that it was also a march against ISIS, it would be ignored by the press.

It's not a regular event though? scratch

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:28 am

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Raggamuffin wrote:

Because it's a regular event? If it wasn't announced in advance that it was also a march against ISIS, it would be ignored by the press.

It's not a regular event though? scratch

Yes it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arba'een_Pilgrimage

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:51 am

sassy wrote:It is NOT  regular event.   Do you thing millions of people march when they could be blown up for marching regularly?   FFS!!!


And Eddie, you must know WHY it wasn't reported surely.

Yes it is, so one could say that they're marching despite ISIS. Also, it was reported in the press.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/20-million-Muslims-march-against-isis-arbaeen-pilgrimage-iraq-karbala-a7436561.html

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/arbaeen-millions-shia-Muslims-gather-karbala-worlds-largest-annual-pilgrimage-1592600

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:03 am

Errr, suggest you read the links you posted.   They do not make the point that they were marching against ISIS, they called it an 'annual pilgrimage'.   Allthough it was part of the pilgrimage, this one was called especially against ISIS, which in view of the situation they are in, was exceptionally courageous.

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:06 am

TBH I'd say that it's probably quite scary to be a Muslim and go on that march.
It shows they're in solidarity with the rest of the world in fighting terror and that's all we can ask for.

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sassy wrote:Errr, suggest you read the links you posted.   They do not make the point that they were marching against ISIS, they called it an 'annual pilgrimage'.   Allthough it was part of the pilgrimage, this one was called especially against ISIS, which in view of the situation they are in, was exceptionally courageous.

Well it is an annual pilgrimage, which you denied. You made a mistake in thinking it was a one off. Who arranged it specifically against ISIS? If there was no announcement, why would it be reported as an anti-ISIS march? Even the article you posted said the march was in spite of ISIS.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:09 am

eddie wrote:TBH I'd say that it's probably quite scary to be a Muslim and go on that march.
It shows they're in solidarity with the rest of the world in fighting terror and that's all we can ask for.

Well yes, but that wasn't Sassy's point was it?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:00 pm

More sassy lies and spin...

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Post by Angry Andy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:22 pm

eddie wrote:Why wasn't this reported in the mainstream media?
Because, in general, the rw media in Britain hates Islam and all it stands for.
20 million match for peace - not a word.
Muslim drops a sweet wrapper on the pavement, the rw think he is an ISS suicide bomber.

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Post by Angry Andy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:25 pm

eddie wrote:Why wasn't this reported in the mainstream media?
Because, in general, the rw media in Britain hates Islam and all it stands for.
20 million match for peace - not a word.
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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:27 pm

Was the march anti ISIS or anti Shi'ite?
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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:32 pm

Handy Andy wrote:
eddie wrote:Why wasn't this reported in the mainstream media?
Because, in general, the rw media in Britain hates Islam and all it stands for.
20 million match for peace - not a word.
Muslim drops a sweet wrapper on the pavement, the rw think he is an ISS suicide bomber.

The press generally reports on the Hajj pilgrimage though.

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:40 pm

Handy Andy wrote:
eddie wrote:Why wasn't this reported in the mainstream media?
Because, in general, the rw media in Britain hates Islam and all it stands for.
20 million match for peace - not a word.
Muslim drops a sweet wrapper on the pavement, the rw think he is an ISS suicide bomber.

They were marching to commemorate Mohammed's grandson or some such twaddle.
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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:27 pm

According to the Independent, the 40-year-old said his prayers would go to the Hashed al-Shaabi paramilitary group that has tens of thousands of men deployed on the front lines to fight ISIS.
Umm Ali, who came without her husband, as he is currently fighting ISIS on the front lines, said, “I came with my son and two daughters. I came from Samawa to Najaf by car, then from Najaf to Karbala on foot, to make a plea for my husband’s safety.
“We ask God to support us against Daesh [ISIS] members, to help us liberate Mosul and urge our politicians to remember the people who have sacrificed so much.”
In spite of this pilgrimage being one of the most massive marches in the world, the West conveniently ignored it. Arbaeen is magnitudes larger than the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca — yet Mecca is the only event that ever receives headlines in the West. Given the recent revelation that the Shia Muslims are also marching against Daesh, one can’t help but wonder why this isn’t all over American news.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:36 pm

So a couple of people complaining about ISIS means the whole thing was an anti-ISIS march?

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:49 pm

Isis kill the pilgrims but never mind just discredit the additional call to protest IN SPITE of Isis threats, because that's what you do isn't it.   The racists are crawling out of the woodwork

80 blown up.

ISIS Bomb Aimed at Shiite Pilgrims in Iraq Kills at Least 80


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November 24, 2016
ERBIL, Iraq — At least 80 people, many of them Shiite pilgrims on their way home to Iran, were killed on Thursday when an Islamic State suicide bomber detonated a truck filled with explosives at a roadside service station in southern Iraq, local officials said.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/24/world/middleeast/islamic-state-bombing-shiites-iraq.html



And of course carefully avoiding the fact that Hashed al-Shaabi paramilitary group that has tens of thousands of men deployed on the front lines to fight ISIS.




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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:04 pm

It's not racist to query your claims Sassy. Millions of people continued to travel on the London Underground after 7/7 in spite of the terrorist attack, just as these people have continued with their pilgrimage.

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:44 pm

Yes people were brave and heroic in travelling in London IN SPITE of the terrorist attacks. Now can you bring yourself to afford those views of yours towards the Muslims who did the same by going on the pilgrimage IN SPITE of the terrorist threat? That question is not restricted to you either

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:46 pm

I've never understood why a good news story always attracts negativity.

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:48 pm

eddie wrote:I've never understood why a good news story always attracts negativity.  


If the word 'Muslim' enters the equation you can guarantee who it is going to attract negativity from.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:54 pm

sassy wrote:Yes people were brave and heroic in travelling in London IN SPITE of the terrorist attacks. Now can you bring yourself to afford those views of yours towards the Muslims who did the same by going on the pilgrimage IN SPITE of the terrorist threat? That question is not restricted to you either

I already agreed with eddie when she said how scary it must be.

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eddie wrote:I've never understood why a good news story always attracts negativity.  

Because of the spin Sassy has put on it, and because she got aggressive early on in the thread when I said that it was a regular event.

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Raggamuffin wrote:So a couple of people complaining about ISIS means the whole thing was an anti-ISIS march?

Did you have a Litmus Test in mind? Please...share it with us. Do you want to turn this into a quantitative expression? We should have polling sites at the beginning of marches...measure the degree of intensity by votes. Oops, that's right, polls are not trustworthy.

Yes, if a couple of people complain about ISIS, who are you to demean them? Millions more join in their sentiment, but are not outspoken.


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eddie wrote:I've never understood why a good news story always attracts negativity.  

Because of the spin Sassy has put on it, and because she got aggressive early on in the thread when I said that it was a regular event.

Haha...perhaps sassy should respond...

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Raggamuffin wrote:So a couple of people complaining about ISIS means the whole thing was an anti-ISIS march?

Did you have a Litmus Test in mind?  Please...share it with us.  Do you want to turn this into a quantitative expression?  We should have polling sites at the beginning of marches...measure the degree of intensity by votes.  Oops, that's right, polls are not trustworthy.

Yes, if a couple of people complain about ISIS, who are you to demean them?  Millions more join in their sentiment, but are not outspoken.  


If it was a specific march against ISIS, it would be different, but this is something they do every year anyway. You can call it an anti-ISIS march if you want, but I don't have to agree with you.

I didn't demean anyone - that was in your imagination.

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Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Because of the spin Sassy has put on it, and because she got aggressive early on in the thread when I said that it was a regular event.

Haha...perhaps sassy should respond...

Raggamuffin wrote:I think it's time you stopped stirring and having a pop at people here. You just can't seem to help yourself. Get a grip.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t18756-hitlers-100-million-gold-hoard

How is that at all relevant to this thread? Sassy was aggressive in this thread for no good reason.


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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:42 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:I've never understood why a good news story always attracts negativity.  

Because of the spin Sassy has put on it, and because she got aggressive early on in the thread when I said that it was a regular event.


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Post by Irn Bru on Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:45 am

These people that answered the call and went on that march deserve a lot of credit for defying the threat of Isis who just a few days before killed several people in the area
The pligrimage was the ideal opportunity to show they are scum and have little support for their ideology.
A first for the occasion I believe.

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Post by Lord Foul on Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:18 am

Well, given these are shia Muslims......I dont suppose many of those 20 million have a deal of love for Isis.

Nor, given the events over the past few years even have a neutral view of them either

One rather, imagines they have nothing but loathing for them.....

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Post by Irn Bru on Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:29 am

Lord Foul wrote:Well, given these are shia Muslims......I dont suppose many of those 20 million have a deal of love for Isis.

Nor, given the events over the past few years even have a neutral view of them either

One rather, imagines they have nothing but loathing for them.....

But putting their lives on the line in the face of terrorism threats to defy Isis was a worthy thing for them do do............correct?

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Post by Lord Foul on Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:40 am

worthy...hmmm now thats a word I hadnt considered....

I'm sure they have accumulated no end of brownie points for their future in paradise

as to the "worth " of it here and now one wonders....will it actually make a difference, as far as isis is concerned....

its not going to change Isis' numbers since its unlikely they would recruit from shia's
its not going to change Isis' view on things

however it may give a big boost of course to the morale of their brave menfolk fighting these bastards.

It may of course also have the VERY worth while effect of imporving perceptions of Muslims in general....

at least we know that 20 million of them are "in accord" with the rest of the world in this matter at least....

it does however raise in interesting question....


what of the sunni's????

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Post by Irn Bru on Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:45 am

Lord Foul wrote:worthy...hmmm now thats a word I hadnt considered....

I'm sure they have accumulated no end of brownie points for their future in paradise

as to the "worth " of it here and now one wonders....will it actually make a difference, as far as isis is concerned....

its not going to change Isis' numbers since its unlikely they would recruit from shia's
its not going to change Isis' view on things

however it may give a big boost of course to the morale of their brave menfolk fighting these bastards.

It may of course also have the VERY worth while effect of imporving perceptions of Muslims in general....

at least we know that 20 million of them are "in accord" with the rest of the world in this matter at least....

it does however raise in interesting question....


what of the sunni's????

I believe Isis leadership were pretty much the remains of Saddam's army commanders.

All credit to the marchers for showing defiance in the face of the terrorists threats though

Catch you tomorrow Vic. Time for a kip.


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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:48 am

most Sunni's dont live in the middle east,
Indonesia alone has more Sunni Muslims then there are Shitte Muslims globally

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

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