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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:39 pm

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"I dont defend the FAR rights standpoint... I do however defend their right to have and to communicate that stand point...

you yourself Ziz, touched on one very good reason for this to be so...lets have the ideas out in the open , so they can be challenged....ONLY...you dont do that by smearing the holder of the idea.
another problem of course is what is defined as FAR right...after all anyone to the right of lennin is "far right" in some folks eyes.

of course the problem seems to be that those on the left are bereft of sensible arguments and so as ever they resort to lies and smears (with an added dose of paraniod hysterics) rather than sensible counter argument."


Sensible arguments about what? Why not to be racist scum? Why not to hate homosexuals? Why not be misogynistic? Is that what you grand protectors of free speech seriously expect people to swallow?

And this definition of the far-right will do me - though I'm flexible.

The term is commonly used to describe right-wing populist ideologies known for extreme nationalism and opposition to immigration,[1] as well as Nazism,[2] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, or reactionary views,[3] which can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or perceived threat to the nation, state[4] or ultraconservative traditional social institution. (Wiki)

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:58 pm

sassy wrote:
Ziz wrote:Isn't there some old Scots saying, something about flying with craws...?

"Those who defend and protect racists...."



Yep, without them the racists would not exist.

True.

BTW, are there any threads here about the influx to the UK of white Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Australians etc or is it only Muslims and darker skinned folks the haters are worried about?

How about if you are rich that you can simply buy your citizenship?

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Post by sassy on Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:59 pm

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Yep, without them the racists would not exist.

True.

BTW, are there any threads here about the influx to the UK of white Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Australians etc or is it only Muslims and darker skinned folks the haters are worried about?

How about if you are rich that you can simply buy your citizenship?

Don't forget the Poles, they hate them too, even though so many helped us to win WWII at great cost to themselves.

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Post by Guest on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:02 am

sassy wrote:
Ziz wrote:

True.

BTW, are there any threads here about the influx to the UK of white Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Australians etc or is it only Muslims and darker skinned folks the haters are worried about?

How about if you are rich that you can simply buy your citizenship?

Don't forget the Poles, they hate them too, even though so many helped us to win WWII at great cost to themselves.

Oh yes, the brave Poles - everything the haters are not.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:05 am

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Yep, without them the racists would not exist.

True.

BTW, are there any threads here about the influx to the UK of white Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Australians etc or is it only Muslims and darker skinned folks the haters are worried about?

How about if you are rich that you can simply buy your citizenship?


No because there isn't mass immigration of those... however there is mass immigration of white European nationals and a big opposition to this too!


It's mass immigration that British people are against... all colours/races/religions!


http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-immigration-survey-idUKBREA0600F20140107


So how about democracy being enacted instead of mass immigration being imposed...!?



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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:06 am

I think Tommy has the hiccups.

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Post by Guest on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:06 am

And with that I bid you good folk adieu - I'm taking a short holiday by the sea so I won't be around much.

Thanks for your indulgence - and take care...

...even you haters.

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:07 am

Night Ziz and enjoy the holiday

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:08 am

scrat wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:how is
quote Scrat.....
"So you loiter around perfumeries worrying the vain and scrounging on all fours for a member of staff to take pity on you, begging like a lowly dog for a sample of cheap scent and all in the hope that you can wash the stench of racist filth away."

You can only attempt to mask that smell because it will never go away!


And if pulling him up on every post he makes that is racist shit is hounding then sobeit, because that is what it needs and it's called 'challenging him'.
Yeah, I fucking hate racists, especially those faux Major types pretending to be British army officers hiding behind our national flag spouting anti British neo Nazi racist bile, I've seen enough of our lads and lasses from every aspect, ethnicity, diversity of our society fight for Queen and Country to protect our freedom, and each and everyone of them deserve our respect.

You might wish to defend, protect and support racist neo Nazi filth, because you're just as eaten away with hatred as they are, I'm not I still believe in Britain and I won't allow Nazi filth to ply their trade without confronting them and that is the only reason I'm threatened with being banned, you're so biased and just too blinkered to acknowledge it.


The second I saw Major - perfume, into my head came - the stench of racism can't be covered.

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:09 am

and I'm sure everyone is grateful to that generation.....


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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:10 am

sassy wrote:I think Tommy has the hiccups.


How about answer the question instead of trying to call 75% of the british people 'racist/nazis' etc...?


Do you support democracy or not?

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:12 am

Lord Foul wrote:and I'm sure everyone is grateful to that generation.....



No they are not, that is why Poles are being attacked.

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:16 am

Night Scrat, I'm off too.

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:16 am

Ahhh...I begin to understand now.....

YOU want to be able to say what you like, whenever you like....no matter what (including lies in some cases)
whereas you want major to only be able to say what YOU think he should be allowed to say, or preferably nothing at all....

where you going to draw the line then.???

mmmm


just how much in absolute unconditional agreement with you does someone have to be to avoid your abuse?




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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:20 am

@sassy
it is actually my position but requires a reasonable amount of explanation and is a very long term philosophic position (but in the 'Current' where forced to Choose between humans in control, choose LW cause at least they are idealistic better)

Humans are too silly in general(evidenced by the fact prejudice based on the melanin content of the skin exists) to form a society coherent enough to colonise the universe. let alone our weaknesses as biological sentient beings
I believe the end goal of life, is to spread life, thus colonisation of the universe (from my own meditations on what is the purpose of life)
if Humans can at least make Cybernetic life that can colonise the stars, all the suffering our species has inflicted on the planet during our fleeting existence may have been worth it.
cosmic

The biggest mistake we make as humans is place ourselves upon a pedestal, it limits us, limits our aspirations for how great humanity could be. the Right Whingers place further limitations seeking to be less than the 'current', to go backward to some obsolete state from decades previous.

I am Also a technocrat and view obsolescence as oblivion so to me the Right whinger demands made by Tommy etc are demands to be sent to oblivion.


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Post by Spindleshanks on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:20 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
sassy wrote:I think Tommy has the hiccups.


How about answer the question instead of trying to call 75% of the british people 'racist/nazis' etc...?


Do you support democracy or not?

How many people did they survey?

Which part of the country did the survey take place?
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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:27 am

Ziz wrote:
sassy wrote:
Ziz wrote:Isn't there some old Scots saying, something about flying with craws...?

"Those who defend and protect racists...."



Yep, without them the racists would not exist.

True.

BTW, are there any threads here about the influx to the UK of white Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Australians etc or is it only Muslims and darker skinned folks the haters are worried about?

How about if you are rich that you can simply buy your citizenship?

there is no influx of any kind this has been shown multiple times
there IS NOT high rates of immigration to the UK
there is Simply the Average rate of immigration all western nations have.

If the UK wants less immigration, say an amount comparable to third world impoverished nation? then fine Just reduce the UK to a Third world impoverished nation.. and you will have the amount of Immigration

which is exactly what the Right Whingers on here promote with their Hill shepherd mentality

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:34 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Ziz wrote:
sassy wrote:
Ziz wrote:Isn't there some old Scots saying, something about flying with craws...?

"Those who defend and protect racists...."



Yep, without them the racists would not exist.

True.

BTW, are there any threads here about the influx to the UK of white Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Australians etc or is it only Muslims and darker skinned folks the haters are worried about?

How about if you are rich that you can simply buy your citizenship?

there is no influx of any kind this has been shown multiple times
there IS NOT high rates of immigration to the UK
there is Simply the Average rate of immigration all western nations have.

would that be per capita, per gdp or per sq mile????

and yes it DOES matter....


If the UK wants less immigration, say an amount comparable to third world impoverished nation? then fine Just reduce the UK to a Third world impoverished nation.. and you will have the amount of Immigration

which is exactly what the Right Whingers on here promote with their Hill shepherd mentality

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:44 am

No it doesn’t matter LF
Cause on All of them UK is nowhere fucking near the highest 
 
per capita, Australia is 5 time higher
 
and per square mile and per capita Eclipsed by Singapore 14 times higher
 
Nations that Actually have high levels of migration literally have numbers 500% to 1400% higher than yours.
the Suggestion that the UK has High rates of immigration is entirely insular and Idiotic in the extreme
 
Only a UK racist hill shepherd would think the UK has a high rate of immigration and that is simply because they are obsolete hill shepherds and I have already said what I think is the natural course for obsolete things. No different than the fox killing the rabbit, it is just the natural order of things 
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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:04 am

and veya....you are rapidly becoming as daft as scrat and sassy....

i would have thought that you at least had managed to absorb the idea that I consider the left we have to be no less contemptible than the far right....

the far right are a mess....(not to mention dumb, stupid, lacking in foresight, and having no real argument)
the left however are in wors case...being deliberately abusive to ANYONE questioning their POV, driving away potential supporters with their hysterical tub thumping lies and smears...

and aiding and abetting the rise of the far right (albeit unintentionally) by their constant failure to adress the very problems the far right feed on....

IF the far right gains any serious traction ...It wont be the success of teh far right or their "policies" but the FAILURE of the left to produce the sort of policies needed to circumvent those far right arguments....

lets face it...

I have to admit scrat has a point when he mentions the offshoring of what should be taxable income, the fact that so many homes are owned by absentee foreigners etc....BUT.....

shouldnt the common sense approach be to deal with those things FIRST, so that we can easily and VISIBLY afford with ease to take in various immimgrants ...Lets be honest...despite all those nice little figures that keep cropping up showing immigrants to be a net gain, the truth is somewhat different when the matter is looked at in depth....

If we sorted out the tax avoidance and lets be honest corporate tax FRAUD, we could then institute te "citizens wage" which would at a stroke destroy the "scrounger" argument (since EVERYBODY would be getting it, no point calling your neighbour a scrounger for his payment, when YOU are getting exactly the same )

nope the lefts failure was to not "set its house in order" when it had the chance....
to go off chasing the "european dream" when that is clearly headed for disaster....(becasue the EU "parliament", joke that it is, surrendered its overarching authority to junker and the comission)


whilst (whether with good cause or not) the R/W can hold up the shameful spectre of ex servicemen in poverty, whilst it can rattle the skeleton in the cupboard of poverty amongst low paid families, and beat the drum of "benefit dependancy" it would behove the left to address the actual problems, rather than shout names at folks who again rightly or wrongly blame the wrong targets for their perceived woes.

THEN there is the matter of perception to consider....

what people percieve to be true is what they will hold to....
sassy "says" (as if she is any authority) that labour under cobyn is "different"
sadly...this "may" be true...BUT I'm afraid that the perception of labour "out there" is of the treacherous and disgusting pink washed tories that was nu labour. Further, many people I speak to consider labour to be a party driven not by sensible governance but by "bees in the bonnet".

lobbying (a disgusting practice which should be strictly limited) is driven by cash in the case of tories and by sheer volume of the crying in the case of labour (he who shouts loudest and longest gets it)

and you wonder why I reckon we are between a rock and a hard place....

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:07 am

veya_victaous wrote:No it doesn’t matter LF
Cause on All of them UK is nowhere fucking near the highest 
 
per capita, Australia is 5 time higher
 
and per square mile and per capita Eclipsed by Singapore 14 times higher
 
Nations that Actually have high levels of migration literally have numbers 500% to 1400% higher than yours.
the Suggestion that the UK has High rates of immigration is entirely insular and Idiotic in the extreme
 
Only a UK racist hill shepherd would think the UK has a high rate of immigration and that is simply because they are obsolete hill shepherds and I have already said what I think is the natural course for obsolete things. No different than the fox killing the rabbit, it is just the natural order of things 
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In which case one has to ask...if the uk is so terrible...why are there 100,s of 1000's wanting to get here so desperately???
surely almost anywhere else would be better.....

are they all unbalanced??

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:23 am

You mean the same 100's of thousands trying to get in to ANY WESTERN NATION !!!
is this Blinding Fact still going over your head,
NOT THE FUCKING UK THEY ARE TRYING TO REACH
THE WESTERN ECONOMY is what they are trying to reach

And Despite the Morons Voting Brexit the UK is still part of the Western economy.

And INFACT I think ANY DUMB ARSE that voted BREXIT should be dumped in any third world shit hole and their place they Took in a western economy can be given to someone that want to be there. Since the Dumb arses literally voted to Fuck off, they should be made to Fuck off
AND fuck the idea that the UK is for Brits, British hillshepherd should be treated like any other inconvienent peoples that got in the way of the western empire. they are  obsolete thus deserve Nothing but oblivion.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:36 am

Lord Foul wrote:and veya....you are rapidly becoming as daft as scrat and sassy....

i would have thought that you at least had managed to absorb the idea that I consider the left we have  to be no less contemptible than the far right....

the far right are a mess....(not to mention dumb, stupid, lacking in foresight, and having no real argument)
the left however are in wors case...being deliberately abusive to ANYONE questioning their POV, driving away potential supporters with their hysterical tub thumping lies and smears...

and aiding and abetting the rise of the far right (albeit unintentionally) by their constant failure to adress the very problems the far right feed on....

IF the far right gains any serious traction ...It wont be the success of teh far right or their "policies" but the FAILURE of the left to produce the sort of policies needed to circumvent those far right arguments....

lets face it...

I have to admit scrat has a point when he mentions the offshoring of what should be taxable income, the fact that so many homes are owned by absentee foreigners etc....BUT.....

shouldnt the common sense approach be to deal with those things FIRST, so that we can easily and VISIBLY afford with ease to take in various immimgrants ...Lets be honest...despite all those nice little figures that keep cropping up showing immigrants to be a net gain, the truth is somewhat different when the matter is looked at in depth....

If we sorted out the tax avoidance and lets be honest corporate tax FRAUD, we could then institute te "citizens wage" which would at a stroke destroy the "scrounger" argument (since EVERYBODY would be getting it, no point calling your neighbour a scrounger for his payment, when YOU are getting exactly the same )

nope the lefts failure was to not "set its house in order" when it had the chance....
to go off chasing the "european dream" when that is clearly headed for disaster....(becasue the EU "parliament", joke that it is, surrendered its overarching authority to junker and the comission)


whilst (whether with good cause or not) the R/W can hold up the shameful spectre of ex servicemen in poverty, whilst it can rattle the skeleton in the cupboard of poverty amongst low paid families, and beat the drum of "benefit dependancy" it would behove the left to address the actual problems, rather than shout names at folks who again rightly or wrongly blame the wrong targets for their perceived woes.

THEN there is the matter of perception to consider....

what people percieve to be true is what they will hold to....
sassy "says" (as if she is any authority) that labour under cobyn is "different"
sadly...this "may" be true...BUT I'm afraid that the perception of labour "out there" is of the treacherous and disgusting pink washed tories that was nu labour. Further, many people I speak to consider labour to be a party driven not by sensible governance but by "bees in the bonnet".

lobbying (a disgusting practice which should be strictly limited) is driven by cash in the case of tories and by sheer volume of the crying  in the case of labour (he who shouts loudest and longest gets it)

and you wonder why I reckon we are between a rock and a hard place....


That Post is Bullshit
The REASON is the Whinging fuckers that prevent the Left from fixing things
And You are clearly one for doing nothing just maintain the stauts quo well the staus quo iof the 1970's that the UK maintained is no gonna cut it now that it is the almost half a century on, we are almost in the 2020's and you Still are debating what other solved DECADES ago!!! Still struggling with the reality of the western empire and it's globalisation.

Maybe in the UK Labour is fucked (quite likely) but when have I ever sugest any of that Old Left wing stuff?
Maybe if you where Actually in the middle and open and wanting to fix things instead of Whine you'd comment on a new left party like the Lib-dems that Les votes for Wink
I have never voted for our Labour Party either, new left is on the rise.

And the rest is the COMBINED FAILURE OF THE BRITISH to look to the future for the last several decades!
 this has been shown multipuel times in the comparison to Australia, New Zealand, Singapore and other commonwealth nations that did NOT sit on their arse telling themsleves how they are fucking fantastic and 'civilized' they once were for the last 30 years.
So it is lack of planning Lack of resourcing for the future to meet what an AVERAGE western nation would exepct as immigration

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:43 am

To Even Start a discussion about Tax avoiding Multinational corporations you'd need to Stop every dumb fuck that is trying to blame it on Foriegners from polluting the discussion.

If you tryuely Belived what you posted then You'd be hammering Major and Tommy for falling for the 'blame the immigrant' propganda that prevents ever taking on Multination corpoations.

Cause HOW can the first step be taken when they Pull everyopne back? and to make it worse YOU are saying "hold up everyone, don't progress. let's listen to what these backwards arse hill shepherds have to say.."


IT is YOU and the Positon YOU hold towards the RW that prevents Ever even engaging serisous discussion about Multinationals and their lack of taxation, if it ever started a 'UKIP' would simply appear and Scare all the hillshepherds with what ever is new currently

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:52 am

veya_victaous wrote:To Even Start a discussion about Tax avoiding Multinational corporations you'd need to Stop every dumb fuck that is trying to blame it on Foriegners from polluting the discussion.

If you tryuely Belived what you posted then You'd be hammering Major and Tommy for falling for the 'blame the immigrant' propganda that prevents ever taking on Multination corpoations.

Cause HOW can the first step be taken when they Pull everyopne back? and to make it worse YOU are saying "hold up everyone, don't progress. let's listen to what these backwards arse hill shepherds have to say.."


IT is YOU and the Positon YOU hold towards the RW that prevents Ever even engaging serisous discussion about Multinationals and their lack of taxation, if it ever started a 'UKIP' would simply appear and Scare all the hillshepherds with what ever is new currently

A banker comes in with 10 gold bars. He gives the citizen one and the immigrant one, and tells the citizen, "that immigrant wants to take your gold bar away from you."

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:51 am

Exactly BAE

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:24 am

veya_victaous wrote:You mean the same 100's of thousands trying to get in to ANY WESTERN NATION !!!
is this Blinding Fact still going over your head,
NOT THE FUCKING UK THEY ARE TRYING TO REACH
THE WESTERN ECONOMY is what they are trying to reach

And Despite the Morons Voting Brexit the UK is still part of the Western economy.

And INFACT I think ANY DUMB ARSE that voted BREXIT should be dumped in any third world shit hole and their place they Took in a western economy can be given to someone that want to be there. Since the Dumb arses literally voted to Fuck off, they should be made to Fuck off
AND fuck the idea that the UK is for Brits, British hillshepherd should be treated like any other inconvienent peoples that got in the way of the western empire. they are  obsolete thus deserve Nothing but oblivion.

So you want to chuck British citizens out of the UK and send them to a "third world shit hole" merely for voting to leave the EU because they voted to "fuck off"?

Those who voted to leave the EU didn't vote to "fuck off" from the UK, so your post makes no sense.

You also want to ban anyone who posts on Flap, so it's true that at least one mod here wants to ban anyone whose views he doesn't like - that would be you.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:35 am

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eddie wrote:

Where have I said people aren't allowed to say what they think to RW posters? Where have I said they're can't be challenged?
I don't think I have.

You all seem to have lost sight of what I originally said.

I have repeatedly been saying that I don't think it's fair to try to get RW posters kicked off, and you've just agreed with me.
You and TC threaten to ban me all the time, Raggs did a little jig when Veya told me not to call (censored) (censored).

Who is asking to get anyone kicked off, I love confronting racists, it's just when I confront them you threaten to ban me!

You've both aligned yourselves with posters who are way too far to the right, move back into a moderate position, at least as moderators and you might get a bit more respect.

You started a thread with the aim of provoking and baiting another member, so I commented that it was against the rules. I was impressed with Veya for once - at least he realised that you were breaking the rules.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:36 am

They voted out of the western empire specifically, Out of our Economic advantages of trade.
And there is a bunch of people that will risk life and limb to try and be part of the western empire SO logically we should swap them, both can have what they want. Cool Cool Cool
That is a lot more fair than most peoples that have gotten in the western empires way have had it.


And YES, or they would at least have to amuse me tongue tongue tongue
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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:41 am

veya_victaous wrote:They voted out of the western empire specifically, Out of our Economic advantages of trade.
And there is a bunch of people that will risk life and limb to try and be part of the western empire SO logically we should swap them, both can have what they want. Cool Cool Cool
That is a lot more fair than most peoples that have gotten in the western empires way have had it.


And YES, or they would at least have to amuse me tongue tongue tongue
Lucky Ben makes me be more 'reasonable' geek

It was nothing to do with Australia, it was to do with the EU. So you think that the UK should be forced to stay in the EU and anyone who doesn't like that to be chucked out and replaced with people from either EU or non-EU countries. You think that those who voted to come out are inferior and those who voted to stay in - or those who didn't vote at all because they're not actually British - are superior. You're beginning to sound a bit nazi-like.

So you want to ban eddie and Lord Foul then? They post on Flap.


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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:52 am

Okay I'm going to repeat myself:

I do not agree with major's racist remarks and I don't agree with his views. I am NOT trying to stop anyone challenging him - of course I'm not, those people need challenging - but I know there's an agenda to get him and possibly others, kicked off.
And that's playing dirty IMO.

And when I asked the question about the other admin I was simply pointing out that none of us think it's right to kick someone off for their views. As usual my point got twisted out of shape.

I abhor racism and homophobia - it seems only the sensible and intelligent people see this - but I defend people's rights to state their opinion.

I don't pull people up for challenging an opinion - I am simply asking that it's done in the proper manner and not a vendetta, which is becoming apparent.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:57 am

eddie wrote:Okay I'm going to repeat myself:

I do not agree with major's racist remarks and I don't agree with his views. I am NOT trying to stop anyone challenging him - of course I'm not, those people need challenging - but I know there's an agenda to get him and possibly others, kicked off.
And that's playing dirty IMO.

And when I asked the question about the other admin I was simply pointing out that none of us think it's right to kick someone off for their views. As usual my point got twisted out of shape.

I abhor racism and homophobia - it seems only the sensible and intelligent people see this - but I defend people's rights to state their opinion.

I don't pull people up for challenging an opinion - I am simply asking that it's done in the proper manner and not a vendetta, which is becoming apparent.

Who is leading this agenda then eddie, and who are the others who are being targeted to be chucked off?

Veya has made no secret of his desire to ban those who also post on flap, but is anyone else involved, and are they PMing mods to get some people removed from here?

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:19 am

Blah blah blah.

You're the only one who thinks that way scrat and I'm done trying to reason with you.

Btw half the people on that list aren't even RW. Rolling Eyes

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:29 am

scrat wrote:
eddie wrote:Blah blah blah.

You're the only one who thinks that way scrat and I'm done trying to reason with you.
Not any more.

Who else thinks that? List them please.

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:35 am

Funny because when I posted on flap a lot, I used to get called left wing.... oh well, you can't wing them all!

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:37 am

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eddie wrote:Okay I'm going to repeat myself:

I do not agree with major's racist remarks and I don't agree with his views. I am NOT trying to stop anyone challenging him - of course I'm not, those people need challenging - but I know there's an agenda to get him and possibly others, kicked off.
And that's playing dirty IMO.

And when I asked the question about the other admin I was simply pointing out that none of us think it's right to kick someone off for their views. As usual my point got twisted out of shape.

I abhor racism and homophobia - it seems only the sensible and intelligent people see this - but I defend people's rights to state their opinion.

I don't pull people up for challenging an opinion - I am simply asking that it's done in the proper manner and not a vendetta, which is becoming apparent.
What a load of bollocks.

You are a far right extremist, I proved it, you locked the thread

You run to support far right extremists trying to disrupt this forum, like monkey boy, I proved it, you locked the thread

You run to defend racists, bigots and homophobes, like TC, Monkey boy, Major, Raggs, Tommy, Nicko, Syl, nems, HT etc etc, I proved it, you locked the thread.

You complained about me being abusive, when I pointed out the disgusting abuse levelled at me by Raggs, what did you do, yep you locked the thread.

You and TC have been exposed for what you are, defenders of racism, bigotry and homophobia, your denial of this might seem entertaining if you did not use this as an excuse to threaten us.

You are the liar, you always have been.

I don't think I'm a racist, bigot, or homophobe. Prove that I am. You're far more abusive than I am, and besides, you started it all. Razz

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:52 am

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eddie wrote:Funny because when I posted on flap a lot, I used to get called left wing.... oh well, you can't wing them all!
Liar, you've spent your entire forum existence snivelling around the far right, perhaps because you do not laugh at Palestinian children burning to death, or killing British police officers, threatening to bomb our infrastructure, threatening to murder left wingers, threatening to murder Muslims, threatening to hang homosexuals, and not calling black people apes is a sign of LW credentials, no I fear you're a far right extremist, that simply supports, defends and protects far right extremists, that's all.

Yes I go around "defending and protesting" of course I do. It's my main job in life! Rolling Eyes
And can you show me where I am "snivelling round far right" posters? I hardly post on flap and when I do it's mainly the chat section where I seem to spend most of my time defending this place!

You're failing to grasp something: I defend people's rights to say what they like even if I don't agree. And that's not just me, major is still here, so the forum owner must agree, no?

Perhaps you can say all that to him too?

When you were on flap I used to only ever post to ask you why you were so excited all the time? Where did you see me defending any of the RW posts? I mostly started to ignore those sections - would you like to think back and remember things properly?

You don't like me but you don't need to make shit up just because you have someone whispering in your ear.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:55 am

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I don't think I'm a racist, bigot, or homophobe. Prove that I am. You're far more abusive than I am, and besides, you started it all. Razz
oh I forgot you also called me terrorist scum, so you're also a liar!

You called me a far right terrorist first, so you're the liar. You also lied about me laughing at Palestinian children burning to death, which I haven't done. You lie all the time.

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:55 am

scrat wrote:
eddie wrote:
scrat wrote:
Not any more.

Who else thinks that? List them please.
You know what you are and I know what you are, as I said many moons ago, your actions have always spoken louder than your words.

How others view you is up to them, you'll get the full support of monkey boys minions, but then that's to be expected.

So apart from Phil....you can't think of anyone then?
Thought not.

And please do tell me about those "actions" you've mentioned.

You say a lot of words but you can never back anything up.

On sky I was never on the politics section and spent half the time defending Phil and David to the homophobic bigots - and there were many!

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:04 am

You won't find any motives. You haven't yet. You make them up in your head....doesn't make them true.

I have come to realise though that on every forum, there is always someone you do this to.....always someone you "need to expose".
It's your way of being that "fighting rebel warrior" so you can wear the warrior clothes you made yourself fit into.

I guess we are done here. You keep repeating stuff that you can't back up, you have no one to back you up except a guy that hates me for banning him from ADO (under Sphinx orders) and that's all there is to it really.

We shall see.

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