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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:25 am

The Remembrance Service at the Heart of Midlothian War memorial at Haymarket, Edinburgh.

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Club Captain, Perry Kitchen read out this poem which says everything it needed to.
Perry Kitchen is an American footballer who plays for Hearts.


The Aftermath

Have you forgotten yet?...
For the world's events have rumbled on since those gagged days,
Like traffic checked while at the crossing of city-ways:
And the haunted gap in your mind has filled with thoughts that flow
Like clouds in the lit heaven of life; and you're a man reprieved to go,
Taking your peaceful share of Time, with joy to spare.
But the past is just the same--and War's a bloody game...
Have you forgotten yet?...
Look down, and swear by the slain of the War that you'll never forget.

Do you remember the dark months you held the sector at Mametz--
The nights you watched and wired and dug and piled sandbags on parapets?
Do you remember the rats; and the stench
Of corpses rotting in front of the front-line trench--
And dawn coming, dirty-white, and chill with a hopeless rain?
Do you ever stop and ask, 'Is it all going to happen again?'

Do you remember that hour of din before the attack--
And the anger, the blind compassion that seized and shook you then
As you peered at the doomed and haggard faces of your men?
Do you remember the stretcher-cases lurching back
With dying eyes and lolling heads--those ashen-grey
Masks of the lads who once were keen and kind and gay?

Have you forgotten yet?...
Look up, and swear by the green of the spring that you'll never forget.

Siegfried Sassoon

We must never forget and confront extremism wherever it rears its ugly head.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:49 pm

Adam Lambert, et al wrote: War's a bloody game...

the slain of the War that you'll never forget

remember the rats; and the stench

corpses rotting in front of the front-line trench

dirty-white, and chill with a hopeless rain

hour of din before the attack

anger, the blind compassion that seized and shook you then

haggard faces

stretcher-cases

dying eyes and lolling heads

ashen-grey masks of the lads who once were

Tell me again…why do we glorify war and celebrate warriors?

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:19 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Adam Lambert, et al wrote: War's a bloody game...

the slain of the War that you'll never forget

remember the rats; and the stench

corpses rotting in front of the front-line trench

dirty-white, and chill with a hopeless rain

hour of din before the attack

anger, the blind compassion that seized and shook you then

haggard faces

stretcher-cases

dying eyes and lolling heads

ashen-grey masks of the lads who once were

Tell me again…why do we glorify war and celebrate warriors?



I don't glorify war but I do observe the Remembrance. I'm proud to do so. We give thanks for those who gave their lives and those who had their lives changed for ever.
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Post by Original Quill on Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:57 pm

Miffs2 wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Tell me again…why do we glorify war and celebrate warriors?



I don't glorify war but I do observe the Remembrance. I'm proud to do so. We give thanks for those who gave their lives and those who had their lives changed for ever.

A better appreciation would be extended if we prevented them from going to war.

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:02 pm

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I don't glorify war but I do observe the Remembrance. I'm proud to do so. We give thanks for those who gave their lives and those who had their lives changed for ever.

A better appreciation would be extended if we prevented them from going to war.

Prevented them from going to war? It's an act of remembrance, acknowledging those that have served.
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Post by Original Quill on Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:12 pm

Miffs2 wrote:
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A better appreciation would be extended if we prevented them from going to war.

Prevented them from going to war? It's an act of remembrance, acknowledging those that have served.

How much better if they were still with us.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:15 pm

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Prevented them from going to war? It's an act of remembrance, acknowledging those that have served.

How much better if they were still with us.

There would be no need for remembrance in that case.

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Post by Syl on Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:16 pm

Remembrance Sunday is a small way to remember and show respect to all the people who gave up so much in every war that's been fought....it's certainly not a celebration of anything.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:28 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

How much better if they were still with us.

There would be no need for remembrance in that case.

To the contrary, we could remember those who died for other reasons.  It seems a shame to associate the loss with such evil.  T'would be more tenable if they died defending our shores, but to be wasted in these foreign adventures...shame. It's like sport.

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:44 pm

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