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Post by sassy on Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:53 pm

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Police are investigating a wave of alleged hate crimes against Muslims, Hispanic Americans, black people, ethnic minorities and the LGBT community in the wake of the US election.
Attackers professing support for Donald Trump have been accused of numerous attacks in the 24 hours following his shock victory, including death threats, physical assaults and racist graffiti.

Several Muslim women have reported Trump supporters attempting to rip off their hijabs, which cover the hair, while others said their families have advised them to stop wearing headscarves in fear of further attacks.
Maha Abdul Gawad said she was shopping in a local Wallmart on Wednesday when another woman approached, pulled off her hijab and said: “This is not allowed anymore, so go hang yourself with it around your neck not on your head.”
Numerous incidents were also reported in schools, with students saying Muslim girls had taken off their hijabs to avoid abuse or had them forcibly removed, and teachers describing comforting crying children afraid their families would be deported.
Mackenzie Rae, from Washington, shared a message she received from a friend who works at a high school in Kansas on Wednesday.
It said: “We have two kids wearing Trump shirts pull a hijab off a Muslim girl today at school. OSS [out-of-school suspension] for five days.

“When asked why? ‘Because she’s about to get kicked out anyway and we won.’”
Have you been a victim of hate crime following the US election? Email Andrew Buncombe at A.Buncombe@independent.co.uk
 
A spokesman for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations told The Independent there were “tremendous levels of fear given the anti-Muslim rhetoric we have seen from Donald Trump during this campaign”.
“This rhetoric is nothing new,” he added. “What is new is how far he has gone with it. That is the shocking thing.”
There have also been numerous reports of black people being verbally and physically abused by people expressing support for the President-elect.
A woman in Delaware described overhearing four white men near her at a petrol station discussing Mr Trump’s victory and “how they’re glad they won’t have to deal with n*****s much longer”. 
“One walked over to me and said ‘how scared are you, you black b****? I should just kill you right now, you’re a waste of air’,” she wrote.
“Then another guy steps forward and shows me his firearm. He says: ‘You’re lucky there’s witnesses or else I’d shoot you right here.’ I have called the police.”
Natasha, a student from the Christian Baylor University in Texas, said she was walking home from a class when a man shoved her off the pavement.
“He said ‘no n*****s allowed on the sidewalk’. I was shocked, I had no words,” she said in a video posted on social media.
“Another guy said ‘dude, what are you doing? That’s not cool’. The guy said: ‘I’m just trying to Make America Great Again’.”

Racist graffiti left on a toilet door at Maple Grove Senior High School, Minnesota, on 9 November (Facebook)
Many victims were documenting their experiences on Facebook, with a black woman in Bloomington, Indiana, describing how she was talking into a shop when white men in a passing lorry hurled abuse.
“As they sped their truck up on me, they rolled their window down and yelled: ‘F*** you n***** b****,” she wrote.
“Trump is going to deport you back to Africa'. In my 33 years of live, I’ve never had blatant racism shown to me than in that moment.”
Elsewhere, a woman jogging in Bloomingdale, Florida, was told to “go back to Africa” by a passer-by, and graffiti at a school in Minnesota read “fuck n*****s #whitesonly #whiteamerica #trump”.
Bart Becker, the principal of Maple Grove Senior High School, wrote a letter to students and parents saying the “serious and disturbing racial incident” was under investigation.
“This incident is additional evidence of the pressing need in our schools, our community and our nation to find ways to talk about race constructively and respectfully,” he added.
Hispanic Americans and those of perceived Mexican heritage were also being targeted, with a woman saying an “older white man” threatened to sexually assault her and threw water over her hours after the election result.
“I was harassed by an older white man who presumed I was Mexican,” Rhio Oracion wrote.
“[He said]: ‘I can’t wait until Trump asks us to rape your people and send you back over the biggest damn wall we’re going to build. Go back to hell, wet back’. 
“After saying all of that, he threw the water in his cup in my face, gave me the middle finger, and ran off.
“I’m in tears right now. I’ve never been terrified of being a woman and a minority until today.”

There were also fears of an upsurge in attacks against the LGBT community.
“Can't wait until your 'marriage' is overturned by a real president,” read a sign left on a car in North Carolina. Gay families = burn in hell. Trump 2016.”
A gay man was smashed over the head with a beer bottle by men shouting homophobic slurs on election night, the Calgary Metro reported.
Mr Ball said he was in a bar in Santa Monica when the attackers shouted "We got a new President you f***ing f****ts", before assaulting him in a nearby alley.
A friend said Mr Ball was treated at accident and emergency and dismissed accusations from Trump supporters claiming a photo showing him drenched in blood was faked.
“This was an act of hate,” he added. “Let’s not let hate overpower our lives.”

Chris Ball, a fim producer from Calgary, was attacked by men shouting homophobic slurs in Santa Monica on the night of the US election (Valerie Siu/Twitter)
Days before the election, a transgender woman's truck was spray painted with the words “Trump” and set on fire in her driveway as she and her three-year-old son were inside their home in Tennessee.
The FBI defines hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity”.
There is widespread concern that the US could mirror a surge in hate crime following Britain’s vote to leave the European Union, with analysts suggesting attackers may feel emboldened by Mr Trump’s election following his campaign statements on Muslims, Mexican “rapists and criminals” and promises of mass deportations.
The National Police Chiefs’ Council reported a 57 per cent rise in hate crime reports in the four days after the referendum in June, with the Metropolitan Police in London saying the figures have since subsided – but to a level higher than before the vote.

Thousands of protesters were taking to the streets in cities across the US on Thursday in protest against Mr Trump’s election and policies, with attacks on his supporters also being reported.
Following a divisive campaign, the President-elect made an uncharacteristic call for unity in his victory speech.
“Now it’s time for America to bind the wounds of division…I say it is time for us to come together as one united people,” he told supporters including a man who appeared to shout “Kill Obama!”.
“I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be President for all Americans.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-Muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html

There have also been reports of disabled people being targeted.


So it begins, 1930s Germany all over again.  Why do people never learn.

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Re: And so it begins: Donald Trump's victory followed by wave of hate crime attacks against minorities across US - led by his supporters

Post by eddie on Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:57 pm

nicko wrote:An immediate ban,   that'll be the day.

Will that be because of the bed situation?? Or can't you say it on here?

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Post by nicko on Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:59 pm

Fuk off , i'v lost all respect for you, try standing up for us Brits for once.

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Re: And so it begins: Donald Trump's victory followed by wave of hate crime attacks against minorities across US - led by his supporters

Post by eddie on Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:22 pm

nicko wrote:Fuk off , i'v lost all respect for you,   try standing up for us Brits for once.

Traitor.


Seriously nicko? This is what you've resorted to?

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Re: And so it begins: Donald Trump's victory followed by wave of hate crime attacks against minorities across US - led by his supporters

Post by Original Quill on Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:30 pm

eddie wrote:
nicko wrote:Fuk off , i'v lost all respect for you,   try standing up for us Brits for once.

Traitor.

Seriously nicko? This is what you've resorted to?

It's called 'Latent Personality Syndrome'. Razz

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Post by Lord Foul on Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:43 pm

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Vic wrote:WHY did trump win ...

That is the question, isn't it?  We can only spend so much time on that question, however.  Our mission is to make sure he doesn't win again.

We must try our hardest to make the Trump presidency a failure, so that he doesn't get re-elected.

Isnt that EXACTLY what you accused the republican bloc of doing???? and indeed made a lot of noise about?

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Post by Lord Foul on Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:55 pm

sassy wrote:Trump’s Election boosted by white supremacists & far-right

 
Since 2012, the number of white supremacists and self-identified Nazi groups on Twitter have multiplied more than 600%, according to a study by George Washington University’s Programme on Extremism [1].
According to the study, far-right accounts on Twitter have increased from about 3,500 in 2012 to 22,000 in 2016.
As most of them are based in the USA, it is believed that those groups have played a huge part in Trump’s campaign.
The study also found a sharp decline in propaganda from Daesh on Twitter during the same period of time, mainly due to a huge crackdown on Islamist extremism groups organised by the social media giant. However, white supremacist and self-identified Nazi groups are largely ignored by Twitter and the main stream media, and they are able to recruit new members, whilst spreading their propaganda with the help of social media.
Donald Trump was a prominent subject amongst white nationalists during the US elections campaign. And his victory has given them a huge boost.
Former Ku Klux Klan leader, David Duke, placed credit for Mr Trump’s win to the help of white supremacists:

“Make no mistake about it,” he Tweeted, “our people played a HUGE role in electing Trump!”


Before adding:

Trump’s race united my people.”


Since then, the Ku Klux Klan has announced it will host a victory parade in a North Carolina town in celebration of Donald Trump’s win[2], bringing white nationalism and the alt-right movement to mainstream politics.
Of course, the KKK and others far-right parties are trying to use Trump’s victory as the way to recruit more members to their cause.
But it is a fact that those groups are growing at a considerable rate in the US and they have helped Trump to win the White House.
And Trump has ripped the lid off Pandora’s box.

Hate Crimes Linked to Trump’s Election Reported Across the US


As for Brexit[3], right after Trump’s victory, social media was rife with accounts of sometimes violent incidents of hate crimes targeted at Muslims, the gay community, Jews, Latinos and African-Americans.
Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Centre who monitors hate in extremism, told CNN that he’s seen a spike in hate crimes, including attacks on women wearing hijabs and racist graffiti since Trump’s election, before adding:

“I think this is absolutely clearly a result of Trump’s election. Donald Trump has ripped the lid off Pandora’s box.”


A gay man was also attacked after supporters of Trump allegedly shouted homophobic slurs at him in a bar[4].
The victim named Chris Ball, was in a bar in Santa Monica as election results came in on Tuesday night and the atmosphere grew increasingly tense.

“People started launching homophobic slurs at me from afar,”


Ball told the Calgary Metro.

“I mean, I kind of got into it, but I didn’t want to provoke them.”


“They were saying things like, ‘We got a new President you f***ing f****ts'”


When Ball left the bar alone, he said he was ambushed by a group of men and smashed over the head with a glass bottle.

Biggest Threat facing the Western World?


White supremacist and far-right groups are potentially becoming the biggest threat facing our democracies. However, they have been around for quite a while and largely ignored.
What has changed is that they now have mainstream politicians that borrow their ideas to win power.
And in recent years, the far-right has bolstered its numbers using social media to recruit new members.
The common threads that all these groups share is a strong anti-woman, anti-black, anti-Islam and anti-Semetic sentiment that runs deep through their rank and files, and over the past 12-months, the public expression of such sentiments has become frighteningly acceptable.
Trump’s comments on women or about Islam has resonated deeply with all far-right parties, not just in USA but across the western world[5].
But in Europe too, the rise of the far-right is largely ignored.  In France, and according to recent polls, the French far-right Front National could get 28% of the vote at the next Presidential election. [6]
Don’t believe that Trump’s victory was an accident: there may be more to come.

https://sciscomedia.co.uk/white-supremacists-boosted-trumps-campaign/



Nah, nothing like Germany and Hitler.   Stupid fucking people and their deliberate blindness leading us down the path of evil.


So sassy...hadnt you best ask yourself what is probably THE most important question of this decade at least.......WHY...HAS THE LEFT SO DISMALLY FAILED, so much so, that whilst being no lover of the FAR right I certainly have no liking for what the left "promises" (for a pocket full of mumbles, such are promises) either...

What has it done to drive away what should be an enormous voter base?

could it be their universal if you dont vote for us and entirely endorse EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO you are a geranium attitude, as best exampled by your and your cohorts postings on here......

do you REALLY think you will change my stance by calling me a far right $$%$&& etc etc etc ....(hint...you wont)




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Re: And so it begins: Donald Trump's victory followed by wave of hate crime attacks against minorities across US - led by his supporters

Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:33 pm

Sassy's post above says it's a massive number and huge influence in the US elec result... but then suggests there are "only a few" thousand of them...


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Post by Original Quill on Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:47 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

That is the question, isn't it?  We can only spend so much time on that question, however.  Our mission is to make sure he doesn't win again.

We must try our hardest to make the Trump presidency a failure, so that he doesn't get re-elected.

Isnt that EXACTLY what you accused the republican bloc of doing???? and indeed made a lot of noise about?

And it worked! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Laughing

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:54 pm

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Lord Foul wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

That is the question, isn't it?  We can only spend so much time on that question, however.  Our mission is to make sure he doesn't win again.

We must try our hardest to make the Trump presidency a failure, so that he doesn't get re-elected.

Isnt that EXACTLY what you accused the republican bloc of doing???? and indeed made a lot of noise about?

And it worked!  Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Laughing

Totally agreed. I'm tired of Democrats trying to stay above the fray. We've been allowing the Republicans to play dirty for decades; it's time to get down in the mud and kick them in the balls.

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Post by Jules on Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:59 pm

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You were quite happy to ''lap up''  an incredibly fake video which ... ahem ... proved Clinton suffers from epilepsy.
You're telling people to "grow up" but even kids who aren't yet grown up would have seen how bogus that video was.
I'm certain that in some people's eyes, that destroyed your credibility and integrity for ever.
A true cynic is cynical about everything, he doesn't just cherrypick whatever fits his ideologies.


It wasn't about having epilepsy... it was about having seizures possibly caused by a degenerative brain condition and linked to her previous well known brain injury...

Please try to keep up with what's actually being said if you are going to try arguing against it...
Are you seriously taking issue with the fact that I used the word epilepsy instead of seizures? What does it matter? Talk about splitting hairs - that is another habit you sometimes indulge in, to an absurd degree.

Epilepsy is actually an umbrella term that includes numerous types of seizures, and pretty much any brain dysfunction and sometimes no cause is found. Usually the term is completely interchangeable with seizures. Epilepsy can even mean repeated episodes of forgetfulness or a sudden blanking of your mind - no twitching of the muscles, no rolling of the eyes, no outward physical signs whatsoever.

Every medical condition has two names - the medical name which is usually greek or latin based,  and the everyday common name and it really doesn't matter which name is used, TM.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:18 pm




You have answered your own question... epilepsy may or may not cause seizures... while seizures may be caused by many medical conditions other than epilepsy...


The video was highlighting seizures... and speculating on the cause being something other than epilepsy.


This is not splitting a hair... it is the separating of hairs that are different...





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Post by Jules on Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:50 pm

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You have answered your own question... epilepsy may or may not cause seizures... while seizures may be caused by many medical conditions other than epilepsy...


The video was highlighting seizures... and speculating on the cause being something other than epilepsy.


This is not splitting a hair... it is the separating of hairs that are different...

Yes in theory a number of conditions other than epilepsy can cause seizures, but collectively they are still a rare cause (outside infancy) and in such cases the cause is usually  DEAD OBVIOUS such as acute sudden lack of oxygen, or very high blood pressure, or low blood sugar or some chemical imbalance.  No special epilepsy investigations would be needed in such circumstances, in fact the seizures would be fully anticipated!!!  - there'd be no mystery about it thus CT's would not be needed.

Another thing, remember that these so called seizures were based on the theory that she had residual damage from strokes (brain clots or, brain bleeding or whatever) which precludes all the conditions mentioned above. I don't want to be a pedant so I will not be pursuing this, I just feel that sometimes too much hair-splitting and pedantic-ness creeps into debates, needlessly.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:29 am

No... it is reality that there are a number of conditions other than epilepsy that cause seizures...


The stuff I posted was clear about suspected cause being vascular dementia... her previous recent head/brain injury was also mentioned... as was suspected possible parkinsons disease...


And the video of her episodes was not faked...


But this thread is about sassy's op Facebook based claims of hate crimes by trump supporters... that are still so far not only unsubstantiated... but have been shown to be highly dubious too...

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