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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:33 pm

How the hell can anybody call themselves intelligent when they’re supporting Donald Trump? It’s a question that baffles people who are able to think critically, able to read and comprehend both history and current events, and able to see through Trump’s thin façade of know-it-all-ism and deep into what he is – an ignorant, narcissistic, and dangerous conman.

Trump supporters not only don’t see this, they’re happy that there’s someone running for president that thinks exactly like them. Take Melanie Austin, of Brownsville, Pennsylvania. She thought her beliefs about Obama being a gay Muslim from Kenya and Michelle being transgender were just fringe beliefs – right up until she started hearing similar stuff from Trump and other right-wing extremists.

Now she knows she’s right about all of this. You can’t tell her that she’s ignorant and dumb if she can’t figure this out for herself. You can’t tell her she’s delusional. You can sit there with her, and countless others like her, and present facts, figures, charts, studies, and more, all from the most reputable sources there are, and prove that her lord and savior is wrong, and you’ll still get shot down.

There’s more to this than the problem of confirmation bias. Austin gets much of her information from fringe right-wing blogs and conspiracy sites, but that’s not all of it. Many of Trump’s supporters are seriously too dumb to know they’re dumb. It’s called the Dunning-Kruger effect, and it’s an unshakeable illusion that you’re much smarter, and more skilled and/or knowledgeable, than you really are.


http://addictinginfo.org/2016/10/02/are-trump-supporters-too-dumb-to-know-theyre-dumb-science-says-probably/

I hardly think that's true but if there really is scientific evidence to prove this then who am I to argue.

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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:47 pm

ahh the left adopt pseudo science at last , a modern form of eugenics....
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a discipline regarded as a science, which however, FAILS to meet the required tests of repeatability, and reliability relying instead on subjective measures and statistical jiggery pokery and has NO means of calibrating its "test equipment"




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Post by sassy on Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:47 pm

I think that the world is going to hell on a handcart and Trump supporters show exactly why it is.   The fact that there are so many people willing to support a hateful misogynistic bankrupt conman for the most powerful position in the world, is an indictment of western so called 'civilisation'.

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:51 pm

Who needs scientists for evidence?  Smile

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:54 pm

Lord Foul wrote:ahh the left adopt pseudo science at last , a modern form of eugenics....
psychobabble

a discipline regarded as a science, which however, FAILS to meet the required tests of repeatability, and reliability relying instead on subjective measures and statistical jiggery pokery and has NO means of calibrating its "test equipment"




Why are you always assuming the latest psychological research is going to lead to mass murder? It'd be comical if it weren't so dark ...


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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:59 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:ahh the left adopt pseudo science at last , a modern form of eugenics....
psychobabble

a discipline regarded as a science, which however, FAILS to meet the required tests of repeatability, and reliability relying instead on subjective measures and statistical jiggery pokery and has NO means of calibrating its "test equipment"




Why are you always assuming the latest psychological research is going to lead to mass murder? It'd be comical if it weren't so dark ...


I have to bear in mind the "lefty" (EURO LEFTY BEN>>>DONT PANIC)  mind set....
if not mass murder ...mass disenfranchisement at least.....

You KNOW they dont like competition or dissent.....


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Post by sassy on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:00 pm

How you can talk such rubbish and actually believe it I have no idea.   It will cause your brain to explode.

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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:02 pm

sassy wrote:How you can talk such rubbish and actually believe it I have no idea.   It will cause your brain to explode.

I only have to read what your caucus on here spout.....

and ...at least I have something to explode........ Rolling Eyes

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Post by eddie on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:04 pm

Children.... Rolling Eyes

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Post by sassy on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:04 pm

Sorry LF, but you have become a broken record.   It began as amusing, became tedious and now doesn't even register.   You will go gibbering into the sunset mouthing, left, left, left, left ..........  ad nauseum.



BTW, my 'caucus'?   Is that a bit like a cabbage?

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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:11 pm

given its members....do you HAVE to ask???

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Post by sassy on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:17 pm

It has members?   How do you get members on a cabbage?   Is this a quiz, if so, can we have questions that make sense.

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Post by eddie on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:19 pm

Well I'm confused....

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Post by sassy on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:21 pm

Well I know someone else is, but he's not likely to admit it.

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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:23 pm

yerr..right ho....


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Post by sassy on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:24 pm

My, you admit it then.   That's a first.

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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:36 pm

one word for you...mendacious

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Post by sassy on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:40 pm

Oh don't be ridiculous.   Really, that is truly laughable.

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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:54 pm

sassy wrote:Oh don't be ridiculous.   Really, that is truly laughable.

my reply in fight club..... Laughing

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:11 am

Lord Foul wrote:
sassy wrote:Oh don't be ridiculous.   Really, that is truly laughable.

my reply in fight club..... Laughing

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:22 am

Your wooden spoon is in the post Rolling Eyes

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:37 am

She's a leftie right enough - and a good one.

Rika Christensen has suffered from severe liberalism for the last several years, causing her to seek a career in writing about politics from the liberal viewpoint. She has become a strong advocate of women's rights and workers' rights, and she's an avid animal rights and welfare activist as well. Rika has a serious problem with tea party politics, as she believes that the best solutions to the world's problems come from groups of people who don't all think the same way. The tea party is so conservative that not only are they racist, misogynist, classist, selfish, and such fear-mongerers that they vote against their own interests, but they do not believe in working with the "enemy" either. Rika's hatred of tea party politics and the idea that cooperating means colluding with some "enemy" is what really prompted her to start writing on liberal politics.

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/author/rika-christensen/

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:40 am

My view on trump.....

some one PLEASE.....stand him against a brick wall and shoot.....for the good of all mankind

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:46 am

Lord Foul wrote:My view on trump.....

some one PLEASE.....stand him against a brick wall and shoot.....for the good of all mankind

Thank you.

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:50 am

you are welcome I'm sure....


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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:29 am

As for the Dunning-Kruger effect, it actually has been tested. Dunning and Kruger tested undergraduates on a variety of skills and asked them to estimate the grade they'd receive. Students who performed poorly consistently overrated their ability, while ironically, students who performed well underrated their ability. (If something is easy for you, you assume it must be easy for others and thus underrate your performance.)

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:35 am

did they "calibrate" their test equipment

is it repeatable with a random selection of people?

is it ALWAYS, without exception accurate

could I take any ONE single random person and 100% of the time doing so, 100% accurately predict his result

NO...THEN IT ISNT SCIENCE

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Post by Angry Andy on Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:56 am

Lord Foul wrote:My view on trump.....

some one PLEASE.....stand him against a brick wall and shoot.....for the good of all mankind
Make the most of it Vic, but I 100% agree that is EXACTLY what needs to happen.
A lone sniper will suffice though.

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Post by eddie on Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:54 pm

Lord Foul wrote:My view on trump.....

some one PLEASE.....stand him against a brick wall and shoot.....for the good of all mankind

Seconded.

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:34 pm

If you tweet jokes about killing Trump, the Secret Service will find you

As this is an American hosted website, Handy Andy and Lord Foul could face extradition attempts by the US authorities to face trial in the US.

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Re: Are Trump Supporters Too Dumb To Know They’re Dumb? Science Says “Probably”

Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:43 pm

they both shoud be in Trump's Super Gitmo
In a cell together, which will be the ultimate torture for them
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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:54 pm

veya_victaous wrote:they both shoud be in Trump's Super Gitmo
In a cell together, which will be the ultimate torture for them
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Would be most interesting lol.   I can hear the conversation now:   HA to LF 'How come you want Trump to be shot but when I suggested he should just get too sick to run you called me all the names under the sun and went off on a left wingers are evil rant'.   Love to hear him explaining that one away.

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:07 pm

sassy wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:they both shoud be in Trump's Super Gitmo
In a cell together, which will be the ultimate torture for them
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Would be most interesting lol.   I can hear the conversation now:   HA to LF 'How come you want Trump to be shot but when I suggested he should just get too sick to run you called me all the names under the sun and went off on a left wingers are evil rant'.   Love to hear him explaining that one away.

dead easy....I'm far more humane....

and no being locked up with HA would NOT be te ultimate torture...THAT would be being locked up with you are veya....neither of you know when to STFU

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:08 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
sassy wrote:


Would be most interesting lol.   I can hear the conversation now:   HA to LF 'How come you want Trump to be shot but when I suggested he should just get too sick to run you called me all the names under the sun and went off on a left wingers are evil rant'.   Love to hear him explaining that one away.

dead easy....I'm far more humane....

and no being locked up with HA would NOT be te ultimate torture...THAT would be being locked up with you are veya....neither of you know when to STFU


Well Victor, you are not likely to be teaching anyone that lol

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:10 pm

listen both of you have as me dad would say...more rattle than a tin of dried peas

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:10 pm

more chatter than a cart load of monkeys

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:11 pm

or, in modern parlance,

more rabbit than sainsburys

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Re: Are Trump Supporters Too Dumb To Know They’re Dumb? Science Says “Probably”

Post by sassy on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:14 pm

Lord Foul wrote:or, in modern parlance,

more rabbit than sainsburys


Now, aren't you the one who is renowned for gathering rabbits?   Sainsbury's simply can't keep up with you.


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Re: Are Trump Supporters Too Dumb To Know They’re Dumb? Science Says “Probably”

Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:14 pm

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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:16 pm

That'll be why you are so loud lol.   You really must get over this obsession with following me on the few occasions I come on now, it's getting quite creepy.

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:24 pm

sassy wrote:That'll be why you are so loud lol.   You really must get over this obsession with following me on the few occasions I come on now, it's getting quite creepy.

Why can't you put me on ignore? You can't can you?
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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:26 pm

Miffs2 wrote:The empty vessel makes the most noise.

All reds gratefully received, it tells me I'm bang on the money Laughing
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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:27 pm

I didn't give you are red, my stats haven't moved, you just aren't that important.   In fact, I feel really sorry for you.

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:30 pm

sassy wrote:I didn't give you are red, my stats haven't moved, you just aren't that important.   In fact, I feel really sorry for you.

No need for you to feel sorry for me.
I didn't say you gave the reds, that's where you make the same mistake, you think it's all about you.
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Post by sassy on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:33 pm

Oh where this is concerned it was never about me, it's always been about you and your obsession.   Now I have better things to do, so I'll leave you to chunter on..

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:36 pm

sassy wrote:Oh where this is concerned it was never about me, it's always been about you and your obsession.   Now I have better things to do, so I'll leave you to chunter on..


Of course, but not on ignore eh?!
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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:43 pm

I gave it a red cause all miffs ever does is post shitty bitching at other posters..

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Re: Are Trump Supporters Too Dumb To Know They’re Dumb? Science Says “Probably”

Post by Miffs2 on Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:01 am

veya_victaous wrote:I gave it a red cause all miffs ever does is post shitty bitching at other posters..

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