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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:46 pm

The link didn't work for me Major.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:07 pm

His link had an extra character, I've fixed it. But the video didn't work at the source, so I found it on YouTube:


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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:21 pm

It's a short video but she packs it with a lot of claims and it's tough to address every single one of them. A few that I will react to, though:

She says America is a more dangerous place because of illegal immigration, which is not true. Illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than the general public: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/

She says that Obama didn't bring jobs back to America, which is not true. Depending on how you look at it, Obama has added either over 9 million (one way of looking at it) or over 14 million (another way) jobs over his tenure: http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/news/economy/obama-jobs-state-of-the-union/

That's a far better record than Bush, by the way.

She says that violent crime is surging in Chicago. That's true, but it has nothing to do with Obama or Hillary Clinton. The reasons for the crime surge are complex, but one major one is that large gangs that used to control vast swaths of territory have fractured into smaller gangs that might cling to as little as a few blocks, so they're constantly fighting one another. Because of the constraints on presidential power, there is little a president can do to address one specific issue in one specific city.

She argues passionately and if you accept the foundations of her arguments as true, she makes a compelling case. Unfortunately, much of what she bases her arguments upon are right-wing fictions.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:26 pm

One more thing on jobs -- any government trying to bring jobs back to its country has a tightrope to walk. The corporations that provide lots of jobs simply are not going to locate in a country where they can't make as large a profit as possible.

When you have Third World countries with no minimum wage or worker protections competing for factory jobs, there's very little you can do to pry those jobs away and bring them back to a place where it's illegal to create working conditions that lead to stuff like this:


(Hours so long you fall asleep at your workstation)


(Nets installed because too many workers were jumping from the building to kill themselves)

Do we want jobs like that anyway?

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Re: Black Female Trump Supporter

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:47 am

Ben Reilly wrote:One more thing on jobs -- any government trying to bring jobs back to its country has a tightrope to walk. The corporations that provide lots of jobs simply are not going to locate in a country where they can't make as large a profit as possible.

When you have Third World countries with no minimum wage or worker protections competing for factory jobs, there's very little you can do to pry those jobs away and bring them back to a place where it's illegal to create working conditions that lead to stuff like this:


(Hours so long you fall asleep at your workstation)


(Nets installed because too many workers were jumping from the building to kill themselves)

Do we want jobs like that anyway?

Idea

Once you get away from the likes of the USA, China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan,   corporations/'big business' actually employ only a small proportion of the actual 'real world' jobs....

Down here, in the likes of Oz and NZ,  big business produces less than 15% of the jobs - compared with over 20% in gov't/ semi-gov't/local council jobs..

When you exclude the government sector, among private industry jobs :
Corporations produce less than 20%,
'Mid-size' companies (i.e. those with less than 250 FTE employees) employ around 20%,
Small businesses employ over 60% of the private sector workforce.l
         


Here in Australia,  nearly 15% of workers are self-employed these days --  nearly double the figure that is found in the USA;  and probably triple or more that for Japan or Korea.

The total numbers of people employed by corporations/big business in our Western economies has actually been dropping steadily since the 1960s --    courtesy of increasing mechanisation, automation, multi-tasking, self services, out-sourcing, and "off-shoring" of jobs...          


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