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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:59 pm

 The details differ, but the defining characteristic of all right-wing religionists is an abiding contempt for religious pluralism. They deny the legitimacy of other faiths. All conservative religious traditions are hostile toward gays and lesbians and those who reject traditional gender roles. Most embrace religious nationalism and reject multiculturalism. There are some exceptions, but most oppose abortion. They all want to return to an idealized vision of an earlier, simpler time. When you get down to brass tacks, they’re all right-wingers.

https://www.thenation.com/article/islamic-terrorism-is-right-wing-terrorism/

Much more at the source; I've always felt this was true. Certainly if you compare the beliefs of Muslim extremists and social conservatives, there's a lot of similarity.

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Post by eddie on Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:56 pm

That's been said before, yes. Any extremism is stupidness.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:37 pm

eddie wrote:That's been said before, yes. Any extremism is stupidness.

A few years after the 9/11 attacks, a summit between fundamentalist Christian Americans and fundamentalist Muslims was organized. Both sides talked about how they couldn't believe how much they agreed upon. Islamic terrorism is the same thing as right-wing terrorism 2396444674

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Post by eddie on Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:39 am

Major wrote:Is this site BECOMING a pro Muslim/Islamic one? Ben

I refer you to his post, above:

"A few years after the 9/11 attacks, a summit between fundamentalist Christian Americans and fundamentalist Muslims was organized. Both sides talked about how they couldn't believe how much they agreed upon."


What does that tell you, Major?

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Post by nicko on Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:15 am

I don't know about Major but that tells me nothing came of it!
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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:23 am

nicko wrote:
I don't know about Major but that tells me nothing came of it!

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WRONG again, nicko...

What did come of it, is that both groups -- the respective right wing factions of both the Conservative Christians (i.e. American Evangelicals..) and the Conservative Muslims (i.e. American Islamists) -- find that they both want pretty much the same thing..

THAT IS, both groups want to drag the world back to those idyllic times (to their narrow way of thinking..) when churches had much more influence, and were tightly intertwined with government.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:30 am

eddie wrote:
Major wrote:
Is this site BECOMING a pro Muslim/Islamic one? Ben


I refer you to his post, above:

"A few years after the 9/11 attacks, a summit between fundamentalist Christian Americans and fundamentalist Muslims was organized. Both sides talked about how they couldn't believe how much they agreed upon."


What does that tell you, Major?

Laughing

What that Idiot Stormee's idiotic comment tells the rest of the forum, is just what a clueless and uncomprehending idiot he actually is..

Only Stormee is so witless and unthinking, that he attempts to claim that an anti-extremist/anti-Islamist thread can somehow be construed as Ben turning this forum into a "pro Muslim" site.

Stormee is well beyond being considered as merely ignorantly stupid..     Idea

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:33 am

Has someone claimed that Islamic terrorism is left wing then, or that it's the same as left-wing terrorism?

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Post by Victorismyhero on Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:04 pm

Its pointless you fishing for a L/W good R/W bad argument, especially one containing religious allusions (at least from the brits) since YOUR (apparantly american) ideal of liberalism/L.W ism is totally at varience with the european model of said ideals....

I keep trying to tell you YMMV...and it does...wildly

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:32 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Has someone claimed that Islamic terrorism is left wing then, or that it's the same as left-wing terrorism?

It happens pretty often in the U.S., particularly back when Bush was in office -- if you were a Democrat who criticized Bush, you must have been on bin Laden's side.

It's been tapering off over the past few years but I always felt that it was unfair to associate the left with extreme fundamentalist conservatism, exhibited both by the American Christian Right and fundamentalist Muslims.

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Post by Jules on Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:33 pm

eddie wrote:That's been said before, yes. Any extremism is stupidness.

Yes, the mad mullahs and neo nazis have so much in common, they are almost interchangeable, frankly.

Handy Andy explained it rather well in his thread using the clockface as a model.

Both sets of extremists are at 6am, he said.  See link below.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t17690-political-extremism#336109


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Post by eddie on Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:36 pm

Jules wrote:
eddie wrote:That's been said before, yes. Any extremism is stupidness.

Yes, Handy Andy explained it rather well in his thread using clocks as a model.

Both sets of extremists are at 6am, he said.  See link below.

The mad mullahs and neo nazis have so much in common, they are almost interchangeable, frankly.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t17690-political-extremism#336109

Yeah I remember the clock thing. I over-complicated it and didn't get it. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Andy on Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:37 pm

Jules wrote:
eddie wrote:That's been said before, yes. Any extremism is stupidness.

Yes, Handy Andy explained it rather well in his thread using clocks as a model.

Both sets of extremists are at 6am, he said.  See link below.

The mad mullahs and neo nazis have so much in common, they are almost interchangeable, frankly.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t17690-political-extremism#336109

Thanks Jules. Appreciated.
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Post by Jules on Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:41 pm

eddie wrote:
Jules wrote:

Yes, Handy Andy explained it rather well in his thread using clocks as a model.

Both sets of extremists are at 6am, he said.  See link below.

The mad mullahs and neo nazis have so much in common, they are almost interchangeable, frankly.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t17690-political-extremism#336109

Yeah I remember the clock thing. I over-complicated it and didn't get it. Rolling Eyes

He was saying that two people coming from opposite directions will meet in the middle.
The crazy imams and the right wing fascists both have conservatism in common.
That's all really, eds. Laughing


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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:41 pm

Far-right U.S. politician and commentator Pat Buchannan vs. far-left economic activists:

Buchannan: America is the greatest country in the world! The big successful corporations that were started here owe a great debt to the United States. Thus, because patriotism, they owe it to Americans to not offshore jobs. There should be a law preventing them from doing that.

Lefty economic activists: America is the wealthiest country in the world! The big successful corporations that were started here owe a great debt to the United States. Thus, because fairness, they owe it to Americans to not offshore jobs. There should be a law preventing them from doing that.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:44 pm

Just remembered this:

SEBRING, Florida (CNN) -- A couple of hours up the road from where some September 11 hijackers learned to fly, the new head of Aryan Nation is praising them -- and trying to create an unholy alliance between his white supremacist group and al Qaeda.

"You say they're terrorists, I say they're freedom fighters. And I want to instill the same jihadic feeling in our peoples' heart, in the Aryan race, that they have for their father, who they call Allah."

With his long beard and potbelly, August Kreis looks more like a washed up member of ZZ Top than an aspiring revolutionary.

Don't let appearances fool you: his résumé includes stops at some of America's nastiest extremist groups -- Posse Comitatus, the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nation.

"I don't believe that they were the ones that attacked us," Kreis said. "And even if they did, even if you say they did, I don't care!"

Kreis wants to make common cause with al Qaeda because, he says, they share the same enemies: Jews and the American government.

The terms they use may be different: White supremacists call them ZOG, the Zionist Occupation Government, while al Qaeda calls them the Jews and Crusaders.

But the hatred is the same. And Kreis wants to exploit that.

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Post by eddie on Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:49 pm

Well he's right about the Jews and the Americans. They were responsible for 9/11.

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Post by veya_victaous on Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:46 pm

of course it is the same
it is the politics of the hill shepherd
the Demagogue without morals that lies to the mentally weak.
UKIP, Trump and ISIS all are appealing to the same demographic within their own community.
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Waffle...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:24 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:Has someone claimed that Islamic terrorism is left wing then, or that it's the same as left-wing terrorism?

It happens pretty often in the U.S., particularly back when Bush was in office -- if you were a Democrat who criticized Bush, you must have been on bin Laden's side.

It's been tapering off over the past few years but I always felt that it was unfair to associate the left with extreme fundamentalist conservatism, exhibited both by the American Christian Right and fundamentalist Muslims.

Ah, it's another pop at Christians. I thought so. You didn't mention them in your thread title - you're slipping.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:15 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Raggamuffin wrote:Has someone claimed that Islamic terrorism is left wing then, or that it's the same as left-wing terrorism?

It happens pretty often in the U.S., particularly back when Bush was in office -- if you were a Democrat who criticized Bush, you must have been on bin Laden's side.

It's been tapering off over the past few years but I always felt that it was unfair to associate the left with extreme fundamentalist conservatism, exhibited both by the American Christian Right and fundamentalist Muslims.

Ah, it's another pop at Christians. I thought so. You didn't mention them in your thread title - you're slipping.

It's not a pop at Christians, you hypersensitive little shit.

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Post by eddie on Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:45 pm

Bit of an overreaction I'd say.

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Post by nicko on Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:27 pm

Hypersensative little shit, who the fuck do you think your talking to?


Getting foul mouthed with posters is not on,
By the way, have a word with your mate Veya, threatening a poster with banning for speaking the truth.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:37 pm

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Ah, it's another pop at Christians. I thought so. You didn't mention them in your thread title - you're slipping.

It's not a pop at Christians, you hypersensitive little shit.

Of course it is. You wouldn't mention Muslims in a negative way otherwise - that's very clear.

Take a look at yourself before you call anyone else a "little shit". You're really not a very pleasant person.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:38 pm

nicko wrote:Hypersensative  little shit,    who the fuck do you think your talking to?


Getting foul mouthed with posters is not on,
By the way, have a word with your mate Veya, threatening a poster with banning for speaking the truth.    

Honestly nicko, the admin on this forum have massive superiority complexes. Cool

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