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Post by sassy on Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:18 am

Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party currently has around 600,000 members – easily surpassing Tony Blair’s 1997 peak of 405,000. And while Corbyn’s opponents claim he’s riding on a ‘hard-left’ wave of support, the reality may be very different indeed.
Some of Corbyn’s most vocal supporters may indeed be committed socialist activists (if that’s what detractors mean when they say ‘hard left’). But a recent report – from the BBC no less – has made a surprising revelation.
Although Labour leadership challenger Owen Smith has accused Corbyn of dividing the party and focusing on winning support from the 76% of eligible voters who didn’t vote Tory in 2015 (rather than the 24% that did), the truth may be rather different. Could Corbyn actually be attracting traditional Conservative voters, too?

Going against family tradition

The BBC’s Nick Robinson attended Corbyn’s last big leadership campaign event in Birmingham on 17 September. And in a report for Radio 4’s Today show, he spoke to both attendees of the rally and to Corbyn himself.
What seemed to surprise Robinson was the diversity of those attending the event.
The former BBC political editor first spoke to a teacher called Lauren, who said:
I only joined in January, mostly because of Jeremy Corbyn’s reforms to education – his policies to stop academisation and ensure decent standards for teachers and support staff in schools.
Regarding her political background, she clarified:
My family are all Conservatives.

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Next, in a revelation that may surprise Canary readers, Robinson interviewed a man who openly admitted: “I was a Thatcherite“.
But why was this former supporter of Margaret Thatcher at a Corbyn rally?
He explained that, after the Thatcher era:
Politics had become a little bit detached from me, or I’d become detached from politics. It was something I was not interested in any more…
But now, he said, Corbyn had inspired him into action:
What we’re seeing with Corbyn, I believe, is an alternative to similarities between the main three parties that have just got shrunk – they’ve got closer and closer together in policy. Very difficult to differentiate between them.

What Corbyn knew and the BBC apparently didn’t

Robinson then got an opportunity to speak to Corbyn himself.
The Labour leader told him:
I’m sure you’ve picked this up yourself. The diversity of this crowd is interesting. They’re not all young. They’re of all ages. Sometimes they’re people who were politically active years ago [and] have come back, as well as a lot of young people who’ve come into politics for the first time…
There are people who come up to me who are saying: ‘I’ve never been involved in politics before. I’m interested in what you have to say because I’m interested, particularly, in the economic argument that you have to actually re-balance society away from inequality towards equality.’
In other words, as Robinson realised himself, the Corbyn rally was not full of ‘hard-left’ activists. Yes, there were a variety of opinions represented, as one might expect at a democratic event. And yes, a small number of political placards and newspapers could indeed be seen. But as Robinson noted, they were significantly outnumbered by:
many, many, many people new to politics who are inspired by Jeremy Corbyn in a way they’ve never been inspired before.
Along with some traditional Tory voters who’ve decided to back Corbyn, of course.
Owen Smith has repeated over and over again that Corbyn isn’t electable because he’s not winning over any of the 24% who voted Tory in 2015. But in light of Robinson’s report, the leadership contender might now need to find a new hook for his campaign.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/09/19/mindblowing-fact-shows-corbyn-way-downing-street-audio/




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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:20 am

Well he can probably do a better job than Cameron. I'm not sure about Corbyn's balls but he doesn't particularly come across as a liar.

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Post by sassy on Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:35 am

Nobody without balls would have been able to withstand the onslaught he has and come out smiling, unflustered, kind and with his principles intact.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:09 am

sassy wrote:Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party currently has around 600,000 members – easily surpassing Tony Blair’s 1997 peak of 405,000. And while Corbyn’s opponents claim he’s riding on a ‘hard-left’ wave of support, the reality may be very different indeed.
Some of Corbyn’s most vocal supporters may indeed be committed socialist activists (if that’s what detractors mean when they say ‘hard left’). But a recent report – from the BBC no less – has made a surprising revelation.
Although Labour leadership challenger Owen Smith has accused Corbyn of dividing the party and focusing on winning support from the 76% of eligible voters who didn’t vote Tory in 2015 (rather than the 24% that did), the truth may be rather different. Could Corbyn actually be attracting traditional Conservative voters, too?

Going against family tradition


The BBC’s Nick Robinson attended Corbyn’s last big leadership campaign event in Birmingham on 17 September. And in a report for Radio 4’s Today show, he spoke to both attendees of the rally and to Corbyn himself.
What seemed to surprise Robinson was the diversity of those attending the event.
The former BBC political editor first spoke to a teacher called Lauren, who said:
I only joined in January, mostly because of Jeremy Corbyn’s reforms to education – his policies to stop academisation and ensure decent standards for teachers and support staff in schools.
Regarding her political background, she clarified:
My family are all Conservatives.

Ready to have your mind blown?


Next, in a revelation that may surprise Canary readers, Robinson interviewed a man who openly admitted: “I was a Thatcherite“.
But why was this former supporter of Margaret Thatcher at a Corbyn rally?
He explained that, after the Thatcher era:
Politics had become a little bit detached from me, or I’d become detached from politics. It was something I was not interested in any more…
But now, he said, Corbyn had inspired him into action:
What we’re seeing with Corbyn, I believe, is an alternative to similarities between the main three parties that have just got shrunk – they’ve got closer and closer together in policy. Very difficult to differentiate between them.

What Corbyn knew and the BBC apparently didn’t


Robinson then got an opportunity to speak to Corbyn himself.
The Labour leader told him:
I’m sure you’ve picked this up yourself. The diversity of this crowd is interesting. They’re not all young. They’re of all ages. Sometimes they’re people who were politically active years ago [and] have come back, as well as a lot of young people who’ve come into politics for the first time…
There are people who come up to me who are saying: ‘I’ve never been involved in politics before. I’m interested in what you have to say because I’m interested, particularly, in the economic argument that you have to actually re-balance society away from inequality towards equality.’
In other words, as Robinson realised himself, the Corbyn rally was not full of ‘hard-left’ activists. Yes, there were a variety of opinions represented, as one might expect at a democratic event. And yes, a small number of political placards and newspapers could indeed be seen. But as Robinson noted, they were significantly outnumbered by:
many, many, many people new to politics who are inspired by Jeremy Corbyn in a way they’ve never been inspired before.
Along with some traditional Tory voters who’ve decided to back Corbyn, of course.
Owen Smith has repeated over and over again that Corbyn isn’t electable because he’s not winning over any of the 24% who voted Tory in 2015. But in light of Robinson’s report, the leadership contender might now need to find a new hook for his campaign.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/09/19/mindblowing-fact-shows-corbyn-way-downing-street-audio/



you like labour are confusing members with the actual electorate. corbyn got less than 1% of the electorate in his first vote as leader. That does not translate to a landslide labour victory where every poll shows they are heading for annihilation in 2020.

people like you seem to think labour are too big to fail. remember the whigs, no few do these days.

just to make a point the tories have a fraction of fanatical members but still won the general election. Its not members that win elections it is competence.

even the dont knows beat corbyn in a recent poll on who would make best PM

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:10 am

eddie wrote:Well he can probably do a better job than Cameron. I'm not sure about Corbyn's balls but he doesn't particularly come across as a liar.
except for ll the lies he tells

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:14 pm



Labour are a busted flush.

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Re: The mindblowing fact that shows Corbyn could be on his way to Downing Street

Post by eddie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:20 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
eddie wrote:Well he can probably do a better job than Cameron. I'm not sure about Corbyn's balls but he doesn't particularly come across as a liar.
except for ll the lies he tells

Can you show me one politician that hasn't lied? Corbyn isn't my favourite MP and I'm not sure of his particular visions, but he isn't a plastic politican that's for sure and seems to be more on the level of human beings who live in the real world.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:23 pm

I can't think of any labour politicians who havent lied...


Labour and lies and spin go hand in hand...


Corbyn lied about the train seats and he lied about being a supporter of the eu.


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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:26 pm

I thought we had cleared up the train seats saga?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:28 pm

Yeah... he admitted there were plenty of empty seats.

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eddie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
except for ll the lies he tells

Can you show me one politician that hasn't lied? Corbyn isn't my favourite MP and I'm not sure of his particular visions, but he isn't a plastic politican that's for sure and seems to be more on the level of human beings who live in the real world.
he is a mouthpiece for a very shady group who would turn britain into Venezuela.
glad you accept he is a liar.

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eddie wrote:I thought we had cleared up the train seats saga?
yes corbyn and co lied for a photo op.

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:37 pm

Don't twist my words Deano....they're all liars to some degree.
And what has Venezuela got to do with it?

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:06 pm

eddie wrote:Don't twist my words Deano....they're all liars to some degree.
And what has Venezuela got to do with it?

Q. How do you know when a politician is not lying?

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eddie wrote:Don't twist my words Deano....they're all liars to some degree.
And what has Venezuela got to do with it?
you will need to explain how I have twisted your words. you said all politicians are liars.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:03 pm

blackie333 wrote:
I think he has a tendency to tell the truth.
That never goes down well with Tory party members or their supporters Sassy.
except when he lies

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:33 pm

this is a mind blowing fact that the infatuatti seem to miss again and again


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Post by The Devil, You Know on Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:36 pm

there's an awful lot of these on twitter today


and these were the top trending questions on labour yesterday

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Post by sassy on Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:11 am

Good riddance to them, they are obviously not socialist, so bye bye.


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Post by nicko on Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:00 am

Problem, 16 Thousand left! Laughing
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:46 am

lol!

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Post by nicko on Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:24 pm

Corbyn has surrounded himself with hard left activists, if he's still leader at the next Election, by by Labour!
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Post by eddie on Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:47 pm

Let's give him a chance. He may well be a great leader.

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