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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:40 pm

Apologies if this has already been posted up....but WTF??


New Texas gun control law allows concealed guns on campus


A new law has come into effect in the US state of Texas that allows students to carry concealed guns on campuses.

Students aged 21 or over who have a concealed handgun permit may take guns into classrooms, under the new law.

Texas has now become one of eight US states that allows students to carry guns into college buildings.

Many higher education officials and students are concerned the law may discourage students from attending universities in the state.

But supporters of the law argue it is "critical" to self-defence and upholding constitutional rights.

Texan Republicans say the "campus carry" law could prevent another mass shooting.

They argue that deranged gunmen often target "gun-free zones" such as university campuses and cinemas because they do not meet resistance when they commit their crimes.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36948149

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:55 pm

Idiocy.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:15 pm

RW'rs cam't go wrong on this.  It's like that debate that tommy and I had...if you use the law and you shoot someone, you are the bad guy and the law turned out to be right to advocate carry.  

If you don't use the law, and a bad guy shoots someone, they will say the bad guys won because people didn't follow the law and carry a gun.

As long as you are picking the winner after-the-fact, there's no predictability as to who is the bad guy.

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:21 pm

It's just ridiculous to arm hormonal teens and send them off with other hormonal teens.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:35 pm

eddie wrote:It's just ridiculous to arm hormonal teens and send them off with other hormonal teens.

Absolutely, the potential for violence is incredible. Hopefully the statute will still allow colleges to ban guns from their campuses (campi)? Most businesses and groups can still do that in Texas.

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:37 pm

Don't get how that works? If colleges are allowing students to come armed, how can campi (who cares if it's right, it's a great word) then say they can't?

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:55 pm

eddie wrote:Don't get how that works? If colleges are allowing students to come armed, how can campi (who cares if it's right, it's a great word) then say they can't?

The law would have to actually specify that the campus cannot override the legality.  I suspect that there was a former law (Whitman law?) prohibiting guns on public campuses.


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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:58 pm

Ah ok. So this thread title isn't necessarily set in stone then?

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Post by nicko on Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:01 pm

Can they carry powerful water pistols?
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:03 pm

eddie wrote:Ah ok. So this thread title isn't necessarily set in stone then?

Campuses of private universities may still regulate the issue as they see fit.

Charles Whitman (1966) was the first of the mass campus shootings. It happened on the University of Texas campus, in Austin. After Whitman, many states passed laws prohibiting people from carrying weapons on public campuses. I suspect they have merely 'released' the provisions of that law.

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:21 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Ah ok. So this thread title isn't necessarily set in stone then?

Campuses of private universities may still regulate the issue as they see fit.  

Charles Whitman (1966) was the first of the mass campus shootings.  It happened on the University of Texas campus, in Austin.  After Whitman, many states passed laws prohibiting people from carrying weapons on public campuses.  I suspect they have merely 'released' the provisions of that law.

Right. Thanks, I got it.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:21 pm

eddie wrote:Ah ok. So this thread title isn't necessarily set in stone then?

I just read the last line:

Texan private schools and two-year community colleges are excluded from the new laws until next year.
Idiocy.

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:25 pm

Be interesting to watch and see if gun crime and death by guns, increases.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:37 pm

eddie wrote:Be interesting to watch and see if gun crime and death by guns, increases.

The NRA would applaud that. The very violence that they promote with their 'open carry' gun laws, they would reinterpret as bad guys causing trouble...making more guns necessary.

It's a win-win for them. Mad

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:40 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Be interesting to watch and see if gun crime and death by guns, increases.

The NRA would applaud that.  The very violence that they promote with their 'open carry' gun laws, they would reinterpret as bad guys causing trouble...making more guns necessary.

It's a win-win for them. Mad

See this is why I never feel as though I'm getting to the truth of any matter.
I think I'll just join the nutjobs who believe in lizard people.

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