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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:23 am



Pollution, pesticides and fast food is killing our children with new government statistics revealing that the number of youngsters diagnosed with cancer has risen by 40% over the past 16 years.
Analysis compiled by researchers from the charity Children with Cancer UK found new cases of cancer in young people rose by 1,300 every year since statistics were last compiled in 1998.
The charity found this is most evident in colon cancer which has increased by 200% and thyroid cancer which has seen its cases doubled during the 18 years since the last report was released.

Although researchers can attribute some of the rise to improvements in cancer diagnoses and more screening, they admit the majority is probably caused by environmental factors.
Alasdair Philips, science adviser at Children with Cancer UK told Sky News that there seems to be 'a correlation between the lifestyle of young people'
'They tend to be doing a lot less exercise and there's also a lot of fast food being eaten, which is fine in moderation, but we know they do contain cancer giving substances,' he said.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3773015/KILLING-children-gadgets-pollution-pesticides-blamed-cancer-rates-soar-40-cent-just-16-years.html
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:30 pm

Mobile phones probably causing some of it too...

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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:35 pm

Sadly, once the food chain's been corrupted, we're all fucked.
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Post by eddie on Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:33 pm

Thyroid cancer in children?

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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:16 pm

eddie wrote:Thyroid cancer in children?

Why the question mark?
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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:18 pm

Thyroid cancer is the third most common solid tumor malignancy and the most common endocrine malignancy in children. It occurs four times more often in females than males and has similar characteristics as adult thyroid cancer. Surgery is the preferred treatment for this cancer. Although the procedure is often uncomplicated, risks of thyroid surgery include vocal cord paralysis and hypocalcemia (low blood calcium). Consequently, an otolaryngologist—head and neck surgeon, one experienced with head and neck issues, should be consulted.

http://www.entnet.org/content/pediatric-thyroid-cancer
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:21 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:Thyroid cancer is the third most common solid tumor malignancy and the most common endocrine malignancy in children. It occurs four times more often in females than males and has similar characteristics as adult thyroid cancer. Surgery is the preferred treatment for this cancer. Although the procedure is often uncomplicated, risks of thyroid surgery include vocal cord paralysis and hypocalcemia (low blood calcium). Consequently, an otolaryngologist—head and neck surgeon, one experienced with head and neck issues, should be consulted.

http://www.entnet.org/content/pediatric-thyroid-cancer


What are the theories around possible causes, and/or higher rates of occurance in female children?

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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:33 pm

uhmm...err tommy...perhaps you havnt noticed but male and femal have certain differences......even children......and not the obvious ones either

hormones can affect cancer rates in a population

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:51 pm

Lord Foul wrote:uhmm...err tommy...perhaps you havnt noticed but male and femal have certain differences......even children......and not the obvious ones either

hormones can affect cancer rates in a population


Any chance you could answer my question again but in a manner that was less patronising...?


Thanks...

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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:56 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:Thyroid cancer is the third most common solid tumor malignancy and the most common endocrine malignancy in children. It occurs four times more often in females than males and has similar characteristics as adult thyroid cancer. Surgery is the preferred treatment for this cancer. Although the procedure is often uncomplicated, risks of thyroid surgery include vocal cord paralysis and hypocalcemia (low blood calcium). Consequently, an otolaryngologist—head and neck surgeon, one experienced with head and neck issues, should be consulted.

http://www.entnet.org/content/pediatric-thyroid-cancer


What are the theories around possible causes, and/or higher rates of occurance in female children?

Risk factors that can’t be changed

Gender and age

For unclear reasons thyroid cancers (like almost all diseases of the thyroid) occur about 3 times more often in women than in men.

Thyroid cancer can occur at any age, but the risk peaks earlier for women (who are most often in their 40s or 50s when diagnosed) than for men (who are usually in their 60s or 70s).



http://www.cancer.org/cancer/thyroidcancer/detailedguide/thyroid-cancer-risk-factors
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Thanks for that HT... but I was asking for causes not so much occurance rates...



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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:03 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


Thanks for that HT... but I was asking for causes not so much occurance rates...



Just one of those things I guess. Like some people can smoke all their lives and not get cancer. Some never smoke and still get cancer.
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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:08 pm

one factor tommy...is that the thyroid is a very active gland, and has a high cell turnover. It is (for reasons not yet fully understood) MORE active in females than males (hormonal differences???). Now if a particular organ has a high cell turn over it is more prone (not guaranteed) to "make a mistake" when renewing those cells....hence a cancer.....

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:25 pm



Thank you... I am asking your opinions out of genuine interest and to hear the variety of possible theories YOU think are likely/available... not because I'm totally ignorant/stupid or unable to do some 'in depth research' of my own by 'having a quick flick around Google'...







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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:34 pm

another factor is pollutants, many of which have hormone like activity, It could be that some of these (thinking here especially of phtalates, used as plasticisers) have a female hormone like effect.
unfortunately so do some supoposed healthy options, like many of the soya products

so they too could feed into the equation

It is likely to be a "perfect storm" of many influences

In many cancer scenarios all it takes to increase the susceptibility of individuals to a given cancer is a very subtle change in the biochemical "soup" that we all consist of

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Post by eddie on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:38 pm

Thyroid problems affect females more than males, Tommy, in answer to your question. I have a thyroid disease called Graves.

Anyway, I was wondering why thyroid cancer in children? There must be something they are ingesting to make this cancer rate rise, in this particular area of their body, that's my thinking.
I'm totally amazed children get thyroid cancer as I'm sure it's not a common cancer in adults!

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Chemicals in 'beauty' products...?



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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:41 pm

beauty products
food
water
the air
dust
that new car smell
that new carpet smell
you name it.............

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Post by eddie on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:46 pm

Well here's what I know.
The thyroid gland is one of, if not the first, glands that a foetus makes. As soon as the gland is formed it releases thyroxin.
The thyroid gland is a very important gland that regulates the body's temperature, female hormones, metabolism and muscle function.

I have an overactive thyroid and mine produces too much thyroxine (I'm in remission at the moment), but I've lost three babies due to the foetuses basically "overdosing" on thyroxine becasue they're making their own.

So im wondering if the mothers have thyroid issues, or ingested too much of something whilst pregnant?

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Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:01 am

Hormones, pesticides, antibiotics, all in the food chain.
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Remember Mad Cow disease? We were feeding our cattle MEAT for fuck's sake!
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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:44 am

HoratioTarr wrote:Remember Mad Cow disease? We were feeding our cattle MEAT for fuck's sake!  

specifically cow brains to cows

Humans can get the same thing from eating human brains, the cannibals of Papu new guiena used to get it.
called Kuru
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)


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Actually...


"...Scientists believe the so-called mad cow disease results when cattle eat feed made from the brains or spinal cords of sheep suffering from scrapie..."



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it will go across speices, which is why humans could get mad cow.

It was prolific in the UK because cows died from it and as such could not be sold a human food, so were ground up and reprocessed into cattle feed thus spreading the diease

as we don't do that, down under we never had MCD.

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Tommy Monk wrote:


Actually...


"...Scientists believe the so-called mad cow disease results when cattle eat feed made from the brains or spinal cords of sheep suffering from scrapie..."



Yep, that's right. I remember it now. But how sick is that?
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It's pretty grim... hardly a cows natural choice of food...



And veya... didn't aids pass from monkey to human by Africans eating monkey brains...?

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Post by Jules on Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:33 am

"Modern life is killing children"

'Modern life'? Were the olden days better, when kids had polio, pox, rubella, tb, tetanus & rickets?
When prematurity and leukaemia were invariably death sentences?

The advances in medicine in the past decades are mind-blowing!
Many kids are alive today whose diseases would've stood no chance in bygone times.
No era was perfect, each brought its own set of unique problems - gotta take the rough with the smooth.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:14 am

Tommy Monk wrote:It's pretty grim... hardly a cows natural choice of food...



And veya... didn't aids pass from monkey to human by Africans eating monkey brains...?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/060525-aids-chimps.html

Chimpanzees specifically
and it was just blood transfered some how, no one knows for sure.
there was some change in hunting culture that made this an issue possibly introduction of guns, trophy hunting.
possibly demand for baby chimps created the situation where there was now dead mother chimps that went in the cooking pot.

interestingly
"Chimps in turn are thought to have picked up SIV by eating infected monkeys."




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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:36 pm

Jules wrote:"Modern life is killing children"

'Modern life'? Were the olden days better, when kids had polio, pox, rubella, tb, tetanus & rickets?
When prematurity and leukaemia were invariably death sentences?

The advances in medicine in the past decades are mind-blowing!
Many kids are alive today whose diseases would've stood no chance in bygone times.
No era was perfect, each brought its own set of unique problems -  gotta take the rough with the smooth.

Were those diseases man made or avoidable though? With our own corruption of the food chain and environment, it's self made and therefore, as I see it, more alarming and utterly avoidable.
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Post by Jules on Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:35 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Jules wrote:"Modern life is killing children"

'Modern life'? Were the olden days better, when kids had polio, pox, rubella, tb, tetanus & rickets?
When prematurity and leukaemia were invariably death sentences?

The advances in medicine in the past decades are mind-blowing!
Many kids are alive today whose diseases would've stood no chance in bygone times.
No era was perfect, each brought its own set of unique problems -  gotta take the rough with the smooth.

Were those diseases man made or avoidable though?   With our own corruption of the food chain and environment, it's self made and therefore, as I see it, more alarming and utterly avoidable.
Correct, Horatio.  Food is corrupted at every level, to maximise profits. Remember the infant milk formula scandal in china?

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Post by nicko on Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:56 am

The shit that DIESEL engines put out has a lot to do with it.

Bye the way, Renault are going to stop building Diesel engines.
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