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Post by sassy on Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:58 pm

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Britian First have been holding demonstrations outside mosques and hurling abuse.

And these cards have been put through the letterboxes of Polish people in Huntingdon




Why the fuck should I be proud of a country that has descended to this level.


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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:46 pm

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It was a nice thought though, I'd be a refugee in Spain quite happily lol
I'm sure we would all have a whip round for the fare

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:48 pm

Anyway, this should have been expected. If society gives a thumbs-up to a major agenda item for racists, of course racists will be encouraged.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:57 pm

If you want to believe the media bullshit then that is up to you...



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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Angry Andy on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:11 pm

Taking hold?????
It is already alive and kicking if you read Tommy's extremist rantings and visit Dean's suspect site.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:19 pm

My extremist rantings...!?

Wanting a restoration of democracy is extremist now is it...!?

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Post by Angry Andy on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:32 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:My extremist rantings...!?

Wanting a restoration of democracy is extremist now is it...!?

No,but you single out blacks and Muslims.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:36 pm

They single themselves out with their high crime rates...

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Post by eddie on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:42 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Anyway, this should have been expected. If society gives a thumbs-up to a major agenda item for racists, of course racists will be encouraged.


Why are you assuming that everyone that voted out was racist?

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Post by eddie on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:43 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:If you want to believe the media bullshit then that is up to you...




It is believed when it suits.
And that's about it in a biased little nutshell.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:43 pm

eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Anyway, this should have been expected. If society gives a thumbs-up to a major agenda item for racists, of course racists will be encouraged.


Why are you assuming that everyone that voted out was racist?



Because that is what the lefties on the media have been trying to say...

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Lord Foul on Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:22 pm

I'll make a prediction


you think its bad now.....

If the referendum is ignored it will get 100 times worse

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Syl on Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:29 pm

It wont be ignored, that would make a mockery of our democracy.

A minority of losers are taking it badly.... tough.

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Post by sassy on Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:30 pm

Polish father and son, set on by a group of 'English' men

father has a broken arm, and possible neck trauma, son has severe facial fractures, broken jaw and nose



Police report they are deluged with people telling them about hate crimes linked to Brexit.  People being stopped in the street and told to go home etc (most of them were born here)

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by eddie on Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:33 pm

Funnily enough, five Polish men jumped two teenage boys on my high street yesterday, and called them "Little English c&nts"

Seems racism can be everywhere sassy. Sleep

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:03 pm

The lefties and the left wing media have twisted things to make it look like the vote out of eu was about racism and against polish people... when it is a vote to restore our democracy which has been stolen from us, and to get out of the corrupt federal dictatorship that is the eu!!!


It's the lefties who are to blame for any bad feeling!!!

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:07 pm

eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Anyway, this should have been expected. If society gives a thumbs-up to a major agenda item for racists, of course racists will be encouraged.


Why are you assuming that everyone that voted out was racist?

You misunderstand me -- I don't think even the majority of pro-Brexit voters were racist. I do believe that the majority of racists were pro-Brexit, however.

Put yourself into the shoes of a racist Brexit supporter. You hate the immigrants and you were calling to split from the EU, then the public went out and voted for just that.

It would be very easy to conclude that the majority shared your values.

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Post by eddie on Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:19 pm

I think I misunderstood what fair was.

We had a vote and it was fair vote and yet now people are asking for another vote which rather makes voting pointless.

Do you think that's fair?

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Post by Miffs2 on Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:27 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
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I'm sure we would all have a whip round for the fare

Surprised

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Post by Miffs2 on Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:31 pm

sassy wrote:Polish father and son, set on by a group of 'English' men

father has a broken arm, and possible neck trauma, son has severe facial fractures, broken jaw and nose



Police report they are deluged with people telling them about hate crimes linked to Brexit.  People being stopped in the street and told to go home etc (most of them were born here)
Where is the link for this image? What is its context?
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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:54 pm

eddie wrote:I think I misunderstood what fair was.

We had a vote and it was fair vote and yet now people are asking for another vote which rather makes voting pointless.

Do you think that's fair?

I think it would be quite fair. If one election is fair, why isn't another? You either support democracy or you don't.

People voted for the first time without knowing what would happen. Now they have a chance at voting a second time knowing what happens.

I'm not saying have another vote tomorrow, but why not another vote in a few months?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:01 pm



Nothing has changed... we are currently still in the eu exactly the same as we were before the vote... the lefties are still lying and cheating... same old same old ..

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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:11 pm

of course ben...had it been the other way round....

you would have been screaming how undemocratic the leavers were...


Meh...stop pissing around and invoke art 50.....

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Post by eddie on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:28 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:I think I misunderstood what fair was.

We had a vote and it was fair vote and yet now people are asking for another vote which rather makes voting pointless.

Do you think that's fair?

I think it would be quite fair. If one election is fair, why isn't another? You either support democracy or you don't.

People voted for the first time without knowing what would happen. Now they have a chance at voting a second time knowing what happens.

I'm not saying have another vote tomorrow, but why not another vote in a few months?

And what if the result was a mirror image, with the same percentages. Can I then ask for a third vote?

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Post by @lex on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:40 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:I think I misunderstood what fair was.

We had a vote and it was fair vote and yet now people are asking for another vote which rather makes voting pointless.

Do you think that's fair?

I think it would be quite fair. If one election is fair, why isn't another? You either support democracy or you don't.

People voted for the first time without knowing what would happen. Now they have a chance at voting a second time knowing what happens.

I'm not saying have another vote tomorrow, but why not another vote in a few months?

But people don't know what will happen in a popular vote. Isn't that the point of holding one?
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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:41 pm

Well, I guess me and 17 million other Brits are all racist then.

I think you'll find the actual racists existed before Brexit.
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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:42 pm

People need to stop sulking and go through the five stages of grieving.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:44 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:Well, I guess me and 17 million other Brits are all racist then.

I think you'll find the actual racists existed before Brexit.


Racist!!!


lol!

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:47 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Well, I guess me and 17 million other Brits are all racist then.

I think you'll find the actual racists existed before Brexit.


Racist!!!


lol!

Is there an initiation ceremony? Smile
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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:48 pm



https://youtu.be/QFrni1PEWuU

If this Italian guy made the case for Brexit, the margin would have been much wider.
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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:48 pm

yup Zack...you are now irretrievably a "racist"

NAUGHTY BOY.......

welcome to the club BTW......

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:49 pm

Lord Foul wrote:yup Zack...you are now irretrievably a "racist"

NAUGHTY BOY.......

welcome to the club BTW......

Can't wait to shave my head and get a swasitka tattoo on my balls.
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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:50 pm

you do realise that you are now "off" sassys christmas card list....oh...wait..... Razz

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:51 pm

Lord Foul wrote:you do realise that you are now "off" sassys christmas card list....oh...wait..... Razz

Lol! Hope not.

I've had a lot of after Brexit arguments with family and friends.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:52 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
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Racist!!!


lol!

Is there an initiation ceremony? Smile


Yes... a quite simple one... a lefty calls you a racist and that's it...!


lol!

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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:55 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:yup Zack...you are now irretrievably a "racist"

NAUGHTY BOY.......

welcome to the club BTW......

Can't wait to shave my head and get a swasitka tattoo on my balls.


we use one of these for doing tattoos.......


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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:06 am

eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:I think I misunderstood what fair was.

We had a vote and it was fair vote and yet now people are asking for another vote which rather makes voting pointless.

Do you think that's fair?

I think it would be quite fair. If one election is fair, why isn't another? You either support democracy or you don't.

People voted for the first time without knowing what would happen. Now they have a chance at voting a second time knowing what happens.

I'm not saying have another vote tomorrow, but why not another vote in a few months?

And what if the result was a mirror image, with the same percentages. Can I then ask for a third vote?

eventually yes, you can ask for a thrid vote
it is funny how 3rd world some of the comments and opinion out of the UK are proving to be

it used to be know as 'African Democrcry' because of the amount of dictators it enthroned "one man, one vote, once" ...

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Lord Foul on Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:18 am

of course we can all be like veya....


hiding in his hole giving out advice to bend obver and take it from all and sundry

the advice of a beaten man
the voice of the surrender monkey

dont forget every one ..veya lives in a fools paradise...

they are not quite ready yet ...but just wait till his chinese masters decide he's only worth one bowl of rice a day...

after all...what has australia got left...except its pathetic snivelling workforce cowed and beaten....

the chinese own him ...simples....


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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:23 am

oh ...I nearly forget

one thing about those rather nasty cards.....

is this a known "modus operandi" of any far right group??

I only ask becasue its relatively easy to do...its very anonymous

and hateful though it is...relatively harmless....


Makes me wonder if it isnt some lefty playing "lets stir things up and CREATE an excuse to whinge"....I wouldnt put it past some of them.....

lefties are NOT fluffy happy go lucky bunnies

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:21 am

we get paid more than you
we earn and produce more than you
we are altogether more successful than you
better health care, better education, better housing, better well everything

And your Nation just choose self-immolation as a national policy Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

at least my nation has a future. Thanks to China.

Really the fact that you think the UK can stand alone is hilarious.
Like is said quite enjoying watching the UK funny walking it's way to Oblivion.

Personally Of course i am unaffected or set to make gains. as this is what I have told people for years, Europe will collapse it is full of deadwood, Asia is where our future prosperity lies. the Foolishness of the British is justifying my position.

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Post by Lord Foul on Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:30 am

your nation has NO future under china...

wait till you see Tianemen square in Sydney.....

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:04 am

veya_victaous wrote:we get paid more than you
we earn and produce more than you
we are altogether more successful than you
better health care, better education, better housing, better well everything

And your Nation just choose self-immolation as a national policy Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

at least my nation has a future. Thanks to China.

Really the fact that you think the UK can stand alone is hilarious.
Like is said quite enjoying watching the UK funny walking it's way to Oblivion.

Personally Of course i am unaffected or set to make gains. as this is what I have told people for years, Europe will collapse it is full of deadwood, Asia is where our future prosperity lies. the Foolishness of the British is justifying my position.


So the eu is good for us but is going to collapse so we are better off in it than getting out of it...?


You don't make sense!

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:07 am

China has a long history of being benevolant to the willing Vassal.

China is the future. it's as simple as that. Even an Federated EU would have ended up beneath it.

Also LOL at you living in the past.. 27 years ago! China is not the same china it was 5 years ago let alone 10 and you think it is still the same as 27 years in the past Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

those that want a future need to adapt and change as rapidly as the world around them.

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:15 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:we get paid more than you
we earn and produce more than you
we are altogether more successful than you
better health care, better education, better housing, better well everything

And your Nation just choose self-immolation as a national policy Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

at least my nation has a future. Thanks to China.

Really the fact that you think the UK can stand alone is hilarious.
Like is said quite enjoying watching the UK funny walking it's way to Oblivion.

Personally Of course i am unaffected or set to make gains. as this is what I have told people for years, Europe will collapse it is full of deadwood, Asia is where our future prosperity lies. the Foolishness of the British is justifying my position.


So the eu is good for us but is going to collapse so we are better off in it than getting out of it...?

You don't make sense!

it is not a reccommendation for one in the EU or UK it is one for people outside wanting to invest where the future will be.


You are Part of the deadwood Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes at least with the other deadwood you'd have strength in numbers.
In my opinon all the vote has done is highlighted Britian is the first stripped of wealth a sit has lost the protection fo the herd. the fact your old herd seems set to turn on you as well just makes it even more juicy.
But eventually it would have happened anyway since again i had little faith that the EU would succeed in creating the federated nation that Europe needed to become to compete.



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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Lord Foul on Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:25 am

you read too much sci fi veya....

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:56 am

I dont read sci-fi really.
but my career means that i am upto date with bleeding edge technology

this is the now, maybe if you didn't spend so much time dreaming of the past.
And how is the current economic circumstance sci fi? none of my posts above are even remotely sci fi
China has already become the largest economy it is contiuing to develop it's internal economy that is now undergoing self perpetuating growth as they bring more and more areas into the post industrial world.

China is also the reason we have zero to fear from some sort of caliphate
China is not going to let a bunch of islamists threaten it's food security.

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:52 am

Lord Foul wrote:
of course we can all be like veya....
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after all...what has australia got left...except its pathetic snivelling workforce cowed and beaten....

the chinese own him ...simples....


Idea         Australia has the world's 6th largest natural resource base underlying our economy;
The two largest mining companies in the world (BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto) are Oz based..

Japan and China have both realised over the years that it is easier to buy iron ore, natural gas, wool, wheat, uranium, gold, copper, beef and lamb off producers here --  much cheaper and more reliable than trying to invade a country so far away;
AND we still have a lot of foreign students and tourists visiting each year..

Australia has the potential to easily feed 120 million people --  that's why we have been a net food exporter for more than a century, regularly exporting over 60% of total agricultural production;

Australia is still the world leader in dryland farming technology -- it was Aussie teams back in the 1950s that taught Israelis and Saudis how to farm more efficiently;

Australia is also among the top 3 countries for mining safety and technology;
That's why mines in China, South Africa and Chile employ Aussies to install machinery, and train their Mines Rescue teams..

And the Aussie economy has been around the 12 -->> 15th largest in the world in recent years (depending on exchange rates..).    With less than 40% of the UK's population..

The Aussie workforce is far from "cowed and beaten" -- it's still in the transition stage from older and heavier industries that have trundled off to Asia and Eastern Europe, and moving into smaller, classier and cleaner, 'value added' light manufacturing, technology and education, boutique food and specialised services industries --  because we still do have skilled and well educated workforces down here..

DESPITE the best efforts of successive conservative governments to cripple our country, as they pander to the financial markets.      

And,  we have a lot more sunshine than you,  too  !          sunny

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:24 am

the great irony being that for there to manufactoring jobs in the midlands again they need to be Cheaper than the Chinese

So 100USD a month is the average wage the midlands would need to have to attract business to manufactor there.
with out the EU protection and the harsh reality of globalisation about to hit them like a frieght train no one in the world is going to be more cowed and beaten than the Brits that think Manufactoring is going to provide a significant income.

thankful we are an educated nation that has already started transition away for the need of Manufactoring jobs

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:37 am

Smile

There's always a market for high end specialised and craftsmen quality, artisan based or custom manufacturing within each region -- but unfortunately, those kinds of businesses only employ 10 people here, 20 people there (note that light industrial and technology parks and estates keep on growing, even during cyclical downturns and recessions..).

At the other end of the manufacturing and processing sector, we're also seeing the bigger, more centralised, heavily mechanised and automated factory sites --  have a look at how many saw mills, food processing factories, furniture businesses and the likes, have set up big shiny new plants, where a leaner and meaner, and more skilled, workforce has replaced what 3 or 4 separate sites were doing previously..

MAYBE Victor will be able to get a government grant, take over a local factory site -- and expand his home-based business to employ 10 or 15 recently unemployed woodworking tradesmen and labourers ?          bounce     bounce      bounce      bounce      bounce

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:34 am

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eddie wrote:I think I misunderstood what fair was.

We had a vote and it was fair vote and yet now people are asking for another vote which rather makes voting pointless.

Do you think that's fair?

I think it would be quite fair. If one election is fair, why isn't another? You either support democracy or you don't.

People voted for the first time without knowing what would happen. Now they have a chance at voting a second time knowing what happens.

I'm not saying have another vote tomorrow, but why not another vote in a few months?

And what if the result was a mirror image, with the same percentages. Can I then ask for a third vote?

Sure, why not?

Isn't the point of democracy to let the people decide on course corrections? I'd have elections every day if I had my way. No more polling -- let's put the will of the people into action, and if they've changed their minds since yesterday, fine! That to me would be a government truly responsive to its people.

If not, then why not just admit it's nothing but a game we're all trying to win, in order to impose what we believe on other people who disagree with us?

Give me a reason the people shouldn't get to weigh in every few months on what direction they want to take their nation in. I'd be stunned to find any good reason.

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Re: Racism taking hold already

Post by Lord Foul on Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:27 am

yeah.....we just keep having votes untill the faceless masters get their way....why bother voting...in fact why bother pretending there is any such thing as self determination..

why not admit it Ben ...you would sooner have a military enforced dictatorship..in reality

of course the eu isnt threatening military force...yet
oh no it just Ignores everyone and ploughs on regardles..cos as we all know the left know whats best for everyone.... Rolling Eyes

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