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Post by sassy on Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:37 am

Northern Ireland is the only part of the UK to share a land border with another EU country, the Republic of Ireland. It is unknown how Brexit will affect relations between the two regions

Northern Ireland's Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness has called for a border poll on a united Ireland, after the UK has voted to leave the EU.
Support for the EU is considerably higher in Northern Ireland than the rest of the UK.
As the region shares a land border with the Republic of Ireland, it is unknown how the relationship between the two countries will be affected by Brexit.

Some politicians have speculated a physical border and passport control checks could be errected between the two, while others have questioned whether an effective border will have to be drawn around mainland Great Britain, thereby shutting off Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK.

Northern Ireland also receives considerable financial support from the EU in the form of so-called 'peace money' to fund projects aimed at supporting the region's peace process following the Troubles conflict.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-northern-ireland-eu-referendum-result-latest-live-border-poll-united-martin-mcguinness-a7099276.html

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Re: EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit

Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:20 am

again let NI go...its been nothing but a thorn in our side for donkeys years
wash out hands of it ENTIRELY....when they start blowing each other up again....it wont be our problem ...will it...let the oh so clever E.U sort it

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:24 am

you really are the isolationist aren't you LF Rolling Eyes Laughing

I wonder will the English will vote to divide England into the 4 Saxon nations? deunification to the full geek


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Post by eddie on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:25 am

Since when did standing alone and being independent a bad thing?

Isn't that what we teach our children?

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Post by sassy on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:31 am

veya_victaous wrote:you really are the isolationist aren't you LF Rolling Eyes  Laughing

I wonder will the English will vote to divide England into the 4 Saxon nations?  deunification to the full  geek



You know, I can almost see it happening, after all, S.Yorkshire wanted independence lol

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Re: EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit

Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:37 am

eddie wrote:Since when did standing alone and being independent a bad thing?

Isn't that what we teach our children?

As well as
'Teamwork'
'Community'
'Cooperation'
Neutral



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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:38 am

one can have team work
community
cooperation

...without bloody marrying the git....

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Post by sassy on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:39 am

veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:Since when did standing alone and being independent a bad thing?

Isn't that what we teach our children?

As well as
'Teamwork'
'Community'
'Cooperation'
Neutral



Quite.

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Re: EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit

Post by eddie on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:39 am

veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:Since when did standing alone and being independent a bad thing?

Isn't that what we teach our children?

As well as
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'Community'
'Cooperation'
Neutral



Yep. We are still a team, we can still cooperate and we are still a community.
Don't see your point.

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Re: EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit

Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:44 am

eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:Since when did standing alone and being independent a bad thing?

Isn't that what we teach our children?

As well as
'Teamwork'
'Community'
'Cooperation'
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Yep. We are still a team, we can still cooperate and we are still a community.
Don't see your point.

not team EU Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

And they may well decide not to cooperate now.

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:51 am

perhaps instead of listening to the commision idiots...you should listen to the heads of the "chambers of commerce" equivalents across the EU. The Chief kraut basically said that to "not play" with britain would be tantamount to financial suicide for germany (paraphrased)

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:05 pm

they will probably let you trade but i would not be surprised if there are rather one sided conditions.

you have the far weaker position still

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:23 pm

we could always threaten to be nice to mr putin....

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Post by eddie on Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:37 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:Since when did standing alone and being independent a bad thing?

Isn't that what we teach our children?

As well as
'Teamwork'
'Community'
'Cooperation'
Neutral



Yep. We are still a team, we can still cooperate and we are still a community.
Don't see your point.

not team EU Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

And they may well decide not to cooperate now.

Ah. So we are better off staying because the EU are bullies and won't play now we've left?

You said it Veya.

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Re: EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit

Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:07 pm

eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:Since when did standing alone and being independent a bad thing?

Isn't that what we teach our children?

As well as
'Teamwork'
'Community'
'Cooperation'
Neutral



Yep. We are still a team, we can still cooperate and we are still a community.
Don't see your point.

not team EU Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

And they may well decide not to cooperate now.

Ah. So we are better off staying because the EU are bullies and won't play now we've left?

You said it Veya.

that is literally the way economics blocks work Suspect Suspect Suspect

EU slashed(or tariffed) Australia's and everyone Else's trade to European nations by it's creation.

this is where the UK will have trouble, we have all gone and found new friends to play with and you may well be left playing by yourself
or with far less favorable terms of trade (more likely than no trade Neutral )

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:11 pm

Lord Foul wrote:we could always threaten to be nice to mr putin....

yes beholden to Russia is always an option Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Well Putin may be better than Trump Rolling Eyes


Although probably not as good as Jinping silent

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:10 pm

veya_victaous wrote:you really are the isolationist aren't you LF Rolling Eyes  Laughing

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:22 pm

sassy wrote:Northern Ireland is the only part of the UK to share a land border with another EU country, the Republic of Ireland. It is unknown how Brexit will affect relations between the two regions

Northern Ireland's Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness has called for a border poll on a united Ireland, after the UK has voted to leave the EU.
Support for the EU is considerably higher in Northern Ireland than the rest of the UK.
As the region shares a land border with the Republic of Ireland, it is unknown how the relationship between the two countries will be affected by Brexit.

Some politicians have speculated a physical border and passport control checks could be errected between the two, while others have questioned whether an effective border will have to be drawn around mainland Great Britain, thereby shutting off Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK.

Northern Ireland also receives considerable financial support from the EU in the form of so-called 'peace money' to fund projects aimed at supporting the region's peace process following the Troubles conflict.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-northern-ireland-eu-referendum-result-latest-live-border-poll-united-martin-mcguinness-a7099276.html

Peace money? It was the IRA who caused all the trouble, Let the anti-Brits pay for their own "peace". I certainly don't want to pay for it.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:Northern Ireland is the only part of the UK to share a land border with another EU country, the Republic of Ireland. It is unknown how Brexit will affect relations between the two regions

Northern Ireland's Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness has called for a border poll on a united Ireland, after the UK has voted to leave the EU.
Support for the EU is considerably higher in Northern Ireland than the rest of the UK.
As the region shares a land border with the Republic of Ireland, it is unknown how the relationship between the two countries will be affected by Brexit.

Some politicians have speculated a physical border and passport control checks could be errected between the two, while others have questioned whether an effective border will have to be drawn around mainland Great Britain, thereby shutting off Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK.

Northern Ireland also receives considerable financial support from the EU in the form of so-called 'peace money' to fund projects aimed at supporting the region's peace process following the Troubles conflict.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-northern-ireland-eu-referendum-result-latest-live-border-poll-united-martin-mcguinness-a7099276.html

Peace money? It was the IRA who caused all the trouble, Let the anti-Brits pay for their own "peace". I certainly don't want to pay for it.

The money comes from the EU, so I'm thinking you don't have to worry about it anymore ...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:52 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Peace money? It was the IRA who caused all the trouble, Let the anti-Brits pay for their own "peace". I certainly don't want to pay for it.

The money comes from the EU, so I'm thinking you don't have to worry about it anymore ...

Exactly, so that's a bonus. Of course they might go cap in hand to our Government, but I hope they tell them to get lost.

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Post by eddie on Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:53 pm

Oooh snippy. Razz

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:04 pm

eddie wrote:Oooh snippy. Razz

Me? I think my views on the situation in NI are fairly clear on here.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:05 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

The money comes from the EU, so I'm thinking you don't have to worry about it anymore ...

Exactly, so that's a bonus. Of course they might go cap in hand to our Government, but I hope they tell them to get lost.

Haha..you wish.

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