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Post by sassy on Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:19 pm

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The group say they consider all Muslim elected officials 'occupiers'

The far-right group Britain First has threatened to target where Sadiq Khan “lives, works and prays” as part of their apparent organised action against British Muslim politicians.

In a press release, the “loyalist” group claim they specialise in direct action which they will use against Mr Khan.
The group's leader Paul Golding, who ran for Mayor of London and scored abysmally gaining 31,372 first preference votes compared to Mr Khan’s 1,148,716, has made his feelings clear about Mr Khan before, having been pictured with his back turned when the newly appointed Mayor gave his victory speech earlier this month.

In the release, Mr Golding says: “Britain First specialises in militant direct action and has tracked down and confronted numerous hate preachers and terrorists.

“Britain First now considers all Muslim elected officials as ‘occupiers’ and will start to oppose their strategy of entryism and take-over of our political system.”

The statement concludes by reminding readers of their “official” policy to ban Islam in the UK and say they will “not stop until all Islamist occupiers are driven out of politics completely”.

The group’s “direct action” has previously included “invading” a Halal meat factory, the Islamic Sharia Council in east London and bombarding their way through a mosque.

Citing the apparent “intelligence” they receive, the group pledges to “focus on all aspects of their day-to-day lives and official functions, including where they live, work, pray and so on”.

As well as Mr Khan, the group mentions fellow ‘targets’ Tory business minister Sajid Javid, the mayor of Oxford Mohammed Altaf-Khan, the mayor of Blackburn Hussain Akhtar and also Shafique Shah who they say is the mayor of Birmingham.

However, Mr Shah is not the mayor of Birmingham anymore. Ray Hassall is.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sadiq-khan-britain-first-london-mayor-threaten-direct-action-a7047991.html



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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:32 am

Didge, I don't have the time tonight to address all the hopelessly flawed premises upon which you base your arguments. But if you ever, EVER, accuse me of excusing terrorism again, I will deal you to the point that you could actually imagine the feeling of my foot connecting violently with your precious little ass.

I don't know what's wrong with you where you have the capacity to accuse fair-minded people of supporting and defending attacks like Paris and Pulse, but I do have the ability to make sure you never-fucking-do it again.

That said -- neither you or I can say what goes on in any person's mind, because we have our minds and they have their own, and we're all more or less equally informed by love and trauma.

Did I choose to love country music? No, because so many people I'd be friends with think it's stupid hayseed yokel shit.

But that's nothing compared to the fundamentals of how other people were raised and taught and what they have to grapple with every day. So if you're going to be a dickhead about what they, in light of their upbringing, have decided they want to wear, you just go right on ahead. I'm going to worry about things I deem to be far more important.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:44 am

You know what?

FUCK YOU, MORON.

There. Sorted. Don't know why I bothered with any preamble.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:48 am

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Raggamuffin wrote:I love the way "lefties" like to distance themselves from any kind of unpleasantness and think that they're all tree huggers who just lurve all mankind.

RW'rs are the conservatives.  To conserve is to stay the same...to be content with whatever misery there is.  Lw'rs are mindful of any suffering, and want to change things for the better.  It follows that LW'rs are active and mentally progressives.

Conservatives, wishing to just sleep, become angry at changes.  Mentally unpracticed, they cannot comprehend.  Their response to any changes is to feel threatened.  Anger is the first step of violence.  All violence comes from RW'rs.

Ah but sometimes lefties want to change things for the worse, and they want to fix things that aren't broken. They can do a lot of damage that way.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:54 am

I'm just sick of your bullshit, that's all. Anybody with intelligence looking in would side with me. Just go get your KKK hood and your EDL patch and to thine own self be true, for Pete's sake.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:04 am

I'm just asking you to consider that other people were raised in conditions as fucked-up or worse than we were, and to think about whether clothing is something to be fussing about over-much when there are so many more important things going on.

Christ but I'm tired of people making me the bad guy by default, or because they won't take the time to try to understand what I'm trying to say.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:11 am

Ben Reilly wrote:I'm just asking you to consider that other people were raised in conditions as fucked-up or worse than we were, and to think about whether clothing is something to be fussing about over-much when there are so many more important things going on.

Christ but I'm tired of people making me the bad guy by default, or because they won't take the time to try to understand what I'm trying to say.

I don't try to make you the bad guy, but sometimes your claims to be the good guy do suggest that you're a bit up yourself at times. Laughing

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:16 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:I'm just asking you to consider that other people were raised in conditions as fucked-up or worse than we were, and to think about whether clothing is something to be fussing about over-much when there are so many more important things going on.

Christ but I'm tired of people making me the bad guy by default, or because they won't take the time to try to understand what I'm trying to say.

I don't try to make you the bad guy, but sometimes your claims to be the good guy do suggest that you're a bit up yourself at times. Laughing

Okay. I'm fine with that. I want to be a good person, and I accept that that might seem weird to others who, for whatever reason, don't make that as important in their lives as I do.

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Ben Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't try to make you the bad guy, but sometimes your claims to be the good guy do suggest that you're a bit up yourself at times. Laughing

Okay. I'm fine with that. I want to be a good person, and I accept that that might seem weird to others who, for whatever reason, don't make that as important in their lives as I do.

Yes, but whilst you're trying to be a good person, you often put others down and imply that they're not good - anyone who you perceive as "right wing", for example, or anyone with religious faith - unless they're a Muslim.

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Post by sassy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:31 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't try to make you the bad guy, but sometimes your claims to be the good guy do suggest that you're a bit up yourself at times. Laughing

Okay. I'm fine with that. I want to be a good person, and I accept that that might seem weird to others who, for whatever reason, don't make that as important in their lives as I do.

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Raggamuffin wrote:
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Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't try to make you the bad guy, but sometimes your claims to be the good guy do suggest that you're a bit up yourself at times. Laughing

Okay. I'm fine with that. I want to be a good person, and I accept that that might seem weird to others who, for whatever reason, don't make that as important in their lives as I do.

Yes, but whilst you're trying to be a good person, you often put others down and imply that they're not good - anyone who you perceive as "right wing", for example, or anyone with religious faith - unless they're a Muslim.

I will defend anyone who does good in the world regardless of what faith they might belong to -- despite the fact that I think faith is bogus. You're not going to get that from Didge. I try to be fair and judge people in a context similar to the conditions in which I was brought up, for the most part.

I will put down people who seem to have little compassion for other human beings, especially if they seem to have that based on a single experience or, worse yet, they base it on newspaper headlines.

My faith is that most of us are decent, and I'll preach that until proven wrong.

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Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes, but whilst you're trying to be a good person, you often put others down and imply that they're not good - anyone who you perceive as "right wing", for example, or anyone with religious faith - unless they're a Muslim.

I will defend anyone who does good in the world regardless of what faith they might belong to -- despite the fact that I think faith is bogus. You're not going to get that from Didge. I try to be fair and judge people in a context similar to the conditions in which I was brought up, for the most part.

I will put down people who seem to have little compassion for other human beings, especially if they seem to have that based on a single experience or, worse yet, they base it on newspaper headlines.

My faith is that most of us are decent, and I'll preach that until proven wrong.

I've been accused on here of not having any empathy or compassion, so I guess you think I'm a bad person. Wink

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Post by eddie on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:39 am

I also think most people are decent, lots of people think I'm a doormat or an idiot.

I don't like to be good all the time though. Sometimes it's good to let the naughty side out - otherwise pfffffff.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:47 am

I, sir, have never shied away from deeming wrong anything that I think is wrong. I'm pretty sure I've been chastised for doing just that -- within the past hour, in fact.

Let me just say once more, I am against holding people down, no matter what reason is given. I am all about lifting people up -- no matter who they are. That is my heart and soul laid bare.

So anybody forced to do something they don't agree with, I'm against. But if they agree with it, fine -- so long as they're not hurting others in the process.

We really should all just mind our own biscuits ...


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Ben Reilly wrote:I, sir, have never shied away from deeming wrong anything that I think is wrong. I'm pretty sure I've been chastised for doing just that -- within the past hour, in fact.

Let me just say once more, I am against holding people down, no matter what reason is given. I am all about lifting people up -- no matter who they are. That is my heart and soul laid bare.

So anybody forced to do something they don't agree with, I'm against. But if they agree with it, fine -- so long as they're not hurting others in the process.

We really should all just mind our own biscuits ...


Well there's a dilemma. In order to please some people, you have to piss others off sometimes, right? You have to choose which "rights" take priority.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:17 pm

veya_victaous wrote:it is simple, do you stand for freedom or fear?

Standing for freedom means letting people make their own choices including mistakes
unitl they impinge on the freedom of another you have no rigth to interfere with their freedom or it is YOU that impinges on the rights of another and therefore in the wrong.


That's a conerstone of the progressive movement, If you don not follow that you cannot not be progressive.

That is why we got to get out the eu... for freedom and democracy!!!

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Post by eddie on Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:33 pm

Didge wrote:
eddie wrote:I also think most people are decent, lots of people think I'm a doormat or an idiot.

I don't like to be good all the time though. Sometimes it's good to let the naughty side out - otherwise pfffffff.



Actually you are intelligent and that is what frustrates me because you can be misled eddie, which you should never be and I think its because you are easily swayed by those around you. You say to question the media of which i constantly do, but do you question those who most influence you?
Not knocking you but where i see how things are with you and you are intgelligent which i why i get frustrated with you at times

And you, could do with sometimes accepting that you are lied to.
I don't actually lean further to any side Didge - much as you think I do. I'm in the middle, waiting to be pulled either way. Mostly it doesn't happen.

When I'm reading an "alternative truth site" I'd probably argue the opposite - that's how I get my answers (and I actually do this - I question everybody).


As a general rule of life, I wish people would actually say exactly what they mean though!

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Post by eddie on Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:47 pm

Do you think governments and presidents and prime ministers are as high up as it gets?

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Post by eddie on Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:58 pm

I asked you a question Didge
Don't answer it but don't take the piss.


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Post by eddie on Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:14 pm

I am sure I've never said I believe in lizards yet you seem to mention them all the time.
Perhaps you do?

Didge no one on this forum ever gets debunked. Don't you know that?
You all sit and rubbish eachother' links and opinions and I laugh because no one actually believes anyhing ulness they want to.

So you might say....you all believe in your own "conspiracies"

Head fuck huh?

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Post by eddie on Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:24 pm

Thanks for your advice but, no one on this forum ever gets debunked. Don't you know that?
You all sit and rubbish eachother' links and opinions and I laugh because no one actually believes anyhing ulness they want to.

So you might say....you all believe in your own "conspiracies"

Head fuck huh?

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Post by eddie on Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:32 pm

I thought I was?

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:49 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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RW'rs are the conservatives.  To conserve is to stay the same...to be content with whatever misery there is.  Lw'rs are mindful of any suffering, and want to change things for the better.  It follows that LW'rs are active and mentally progressives.

Conservatives, wishing to just sleep, become angry at changes.  Mentally unpracticed, they cannot comprehend.  Their response to any changes is to feel threatened.  Anger is the first step of violence.  All violence comes from RW'rs.

Ah but sometimes lefties want to change things for the worse, and they want to fix things that aren't broken. They can do a lot of damage that way.

Yes, but with good intentions. Which would you rather have? Someone who is negligent, or someone who is malevolent?

Humans are imperfect beings, and are bound to make mistakes. But the one who intends harm, is truly the one evil one.

LW'rs are intending to correct some defect in the social fabric, and sometimes it unravels. RW'rs intend to leave the edges of the social fabric untended, and fully intend it to fray while they find some way to overcharge those who are falling through into the abyss of nothingness.

It comes down to this: LW'rs represent the interests of the people, while RW'rs represent the special interests. LW'rs see the herd as needing protection; RW'rs see the herd as prey. The difference is caring vs. selfishness.


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Post by nicko on Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:49 pm

Rubbish.
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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:12 pm

nicko wrote:Rubbish.

Really now? All Quill is saying is what a lot of right-wingers concede -- that left-wingers are the idealists among us. They pish-posh idealism, of course, and tend to ultimately arrive at the assertion that human beings aren't really capable of doing things that improve quality of life for the public -- but there's a reason they use terms like "bleeding heart" and "tree hugger."

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:23 pm

Our Torys are more like your Democrats...

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Tommy Monk wrote:Our Torys are more like your Democrats...

No, not at all. Your Tories are to the right of Attila the Hun. Lol.

The general population of the US has moved quite a bit to the left of the general population of the UK. Reaction to that is what is prompting Trump's rise on the right...and why it will be defeated.

A new generation has moved in. Why do you think Sanders, an avowed socialist, did so well?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:59 pm

I am always correct... just not politically correct...

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Post by stardesk on Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:23 pm

Evening folks. I see this topic has drifted into what I would call a philosophical conundrum, ie:

(And it's a question I have asked before) Who is right, who is wrong? Devout Moslems are so true to their faith that they believe everyone else is wrong, hence we have people like IS, killing those they believe to be wrong and evil.

Some Western and Syrian forces are slowly killing them off because of our Western beliefs.

The Referendum also depends on a majority of people believing they are right to vote IN, whilst the OUTs believe they are right.

I could go on and on with all manner of reasons why people behave the way they do but again I ask, who are we to judge them? For we too have our faults so, once again I ask: Who is right, who is wrong?

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Re: Britain First threatens to target London Mayor Sadiq Khan with 'direct action'

Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:28 pm

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nicko wrote:Rubbish.

Really now? All Quill is saying is what a lot of right-wingers concede -- that left-wingers are the idealists among us. They pish-posh idealism, of course, and tend to ultimately arrive at the assertion that human beings aren't really capable of doing things that improve quality of life for the public -- but there's a reason they use terms like "bleeding heart" and "tree hugger."



Nicko is right because you are basing this off generalisations, which is based of you knwoing a miniscule amount of RW people?
Many RW are idealists but in many different ways than you are. Idealism comes in many different aspects so when nicko said its rubbish, he was right. You need to get out more.

You think living in Texas that I know a "miniscule" amount of RWers? You must be out of your mind.

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Re: Britain First threatens to target London Mayor Sadiq Khan with 'direct action'

Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:40 pm

I keep telling you... our Torys are more like your Democrats...


If you had our lefties over there then you would be calling them extremists and commies and mentalists!!!

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Re: Britain First threatens to target London Mayor Sadiq Khan with 'direct action'

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:09 am

nicko wrote:
Rubbish.

scratch

Please, explain your reasoning, nicko...

If there is any..


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