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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:44 am

INSPIRE





British Muslim Women

As British Muslim women we believe in the principles of democracy, human rights, peaceful co-existence and respect for life. These are being daily undermined by extremists and terrorists who murder, rape and steal in the name of Islam. We declare that groups like Islamic State, Al Qaeda and Boko Haram do not represent our faith and pose a very real and dangerous threat to our communities and to women’s rights and lives.



‘Making A Stand’

We launched this campaign in 2014 because we wanted to stop the damage caused by extremists poisoning young minds in our communities. As mothers we were losing our children as they turned their backs on us, choosing instead to join the murderous so-called Islamic state having been radicalised online by hate preachers pushing their messages of a false Islam.

Listening to women as they told us of their suffering and unimaginable grief on discovering that their sons and daughters had turned their backs on the family to join ISIS made us realise that if we came together our voice would be stronger.

We decided to make a stand to utterly and unequivocally reject the barbarism of the so-called Islamic state and to reject extremists and radicalisers such as Boko Haram and Al Shabaab.

We were determined to ensure that these terrorists would no longer be able to prey on our children with impunity.
Women now feel empowered to stand up and say: “No more. Enough is enough.” Building on the success of the campaign so far, we visited Birmingham, Luton, Cardiff, Leeds, Burnley, , Bristol, West and East London in order to spread the word.

We are thankful to the Home Office for supporting our Making A Stand campaign. The funding received to deliver projects into communities has helped provide women with an opportunity to better understand how they can protect their children from radicalisation and extremism.






‘Taking the Lead’

Women are the first defence against radicalisers in our communities.
So as women in our communities we will declare our abhorrence of extremism and take the lead in stopping radicalisers preying on our children and grooming them for violence.




‘Our Commitment’

Through #makingastand we commit ourselves to rejecting terrorism and violence practised in the name of Islam. Together we will:

  • Challenge hatred and extremism wherever we find it.


  • Exert influence in our Mosques and communities.


  • Create local support networks and partner with statutory agencies.


  • Equip our communities with counter-narratives and help families identify the signs of radicalisation.


  • Spread the word with the use of the #makingastand campaign.





http://www.wewillinspire.com/making-a-stand/


They have been doing stirling work, well done them.
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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:00 am

And the only reason these women can say and do all this is because they live in Britain.
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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:03 am

That is utter rubbish, if you had lived in a Muslim country you would know that.
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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:04 am

sassy wrote:That is utter rubbish, if you had lived in a Muslim country you would know that.


Really, how about Saudi or Iran?

She has a point

I am glad to see that in the west Muslim women have the freedom of speech to speak up in support of democracy and human rights, so well done them.

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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:18 am

they have bugger all chance of achieving number 2 though do they...

influence in mosques and community...pffft


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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:20 am

You really don't have the least idea about how much influence Muslim women in the community have Vic.
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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:21 am

sassy wrote:That is utter rubbish, if you had lived in a Muslim country you would know that.

Sadly, the 'ILK' of HT and his pathetic abuse of the lowest verbiage to call any female proves the lack of thought and caring about this issue and/or anything that promotes equality for our gender! 


Magazine  |  February 2016

The Changing Face of Saudi Women

In a deeply conservative culture, they are carefully redefining the boundaries of public life.



POWER BRUNCH, SAUDI VERSION  Aljazi Alrakan (standing), a dentist and self-described lifestyle blogger, joins friends in a fashionable Riyadh restaurant. Medicine and teaching were careers open to Saudi women early on; both suited a single-sex clientele. With more women than men now in universities, “there are new careers,” Alrakan says. “I look at girls in their early 20s, and I think, They carry themselves more confidently.”

By Cynthia Gorney
Photographs by Lynsey Addario
Published January 13, 2016 
http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/22/being-modern-and-female-in-saudi-arabia/

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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:22 am

Gotto go and do the dinner lol, will BBL for more hysteria lol
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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:22 am

4EVER2 wrote:
sassy wrote:That is utter rubbish, if you had lived in a Muslim country you would know that.

Sadly, the 'ILK' of HT and his pathetic abuse of the lowest verbiage to call any female proves the lack of thought and caring about this issue and/or anything that promotes equality for our gender! 


Magazine  |  February 2016

The Changing Face of Saudi Women



In a deeply conservative culture, they are carefully redefining the boundaries of public life.



 

POWER BRUNCH, SAUDI VERSION  Aljazi Alrakan (standing), a dentist and self-described lifestyle blogger, joins friends in a fashionable Riyadh restaurant. Medicine and teaching were careers open to Saudi women early on; both suited a single-sex clientele. With more women than men now in universities, “there are new careers,” Alrakan says. “I look at girls in their early 20s, and I think, They carry themselves more confidently.”

By Cynthia Gorney
Photographs by Lynsey Addario
Published January 13, 2016 
http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/22/being-modern-and-female-in-saudi-arabia/

A entire WWW of information out there but one would have to utilize the STFW instead of asking for 'HELP'...


Another one attacking the poster and not the post

The above really shows how out of touch with reality you are

Can women in Saudi go out without a male relative?

Take your time

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:26 am

Go anywhere without a chaperone

Saudi women need to be accompanied by a male guardian known as a 'mahram' whenever they leave the house. The guardian is often a male relative and will accompany women on all of their errands, including shopping trips and visits to the doctor.

Such practices are rooted in "conservative traditions and religious views that hold giving freedom of movement to women would make them vulnerable to sins," according to The Guardian.

In one extreme case, a teenager reported that she had been gang-raped, but because she was not with a mahram when it occurred, she was punished by the court. The victim was given more lashes than one of her alleged rapists received, the Washington Post reports.

The Saudi Arabian government recently announced that it was considering lifting restrictions on women that would allow them to travel without the approval of their relatives, but human rights groups warn the move is likely to be vetoed by senior clerics.

Drive a car

There is no official law that bans women from driving but deeply held religious beliefs prohibit it, with Saudi clerics arguing that female drivers "undermine social values".

In 2011, a group of Saudi women organised the "Women2Drive" campaign that encouraged women to disregard the laws and post images and videos of themselves driving on social media to raise awareness of the issue in an attempt to force change. It was not a major success.

Saudi journalist Talal Alharbi says women should be allowed to drive but only to take their children to school or a family member to hospital. "Women should accept simple things", he writes for Arab News. "This is a wise thing women could do at this stage. Being stubborn won't support their cause."

Wear clothes or make-up that "show off their beauty"

The dress code for women is governed by a strict interpretation of Islamic law and is enforced to varying degrees across the country. The majority of women are forced to wear an abaya – a long black cloak – and a head scarf. The face does not necessarily need to be covered, "much to the chagrin of some hardliners," says The Economist. But this does not stop the religious police from harassing women for exposing too much flesh or wearing too much makeup.

The dress code was extended to all female television presenters earlier this year. The king's advisory body, the Shoura Council, ruled that the women should wear "modest" clothes that do not "show off their beauty", according to Arab News.

Interact with men

Women are required to limit the amount of time spent with men they are not related to. The majority of public buildings including offices, banks and universities have separate entrances for men and women, the Daily Telegraph reports. Public transportation, parks, beaches and amusement parks are also segregated in most parts of the country. Unlawful mixing will lead to criminal charges being brought against both parties, but women typically face harsher punishment.

Go for a swim

Reuters correspondent Arlene Getz describes her experience of trying to use the gym and pool at an upmarket Riyadh hotel: "As a woman, I wasn't even allowed to look at them ('there are men in swimsuits there,' a hotel staffer told me with horror) — let alone use them."

Compete freely in sports

Earlier this year, Saudi Arabia proposed hosting an Olympic Games without women. "Our society can be very conservative," said Prince Fahad bin Jalawi al-Saud, a consultant to the Saudi Olympic Committee. "It has a hard time accepting that women can compete in sports."

When Saudi Arabia sent its female athletes to the London games for the first time, hard-line clerics denounced the women as "prostitutes". While they were allowed to compete, they had to be accompanied by a male guardian and wear a "Sharia-compliant" sports kit that covered their hair.

Try on clothes when shopping

"The mere thought of a disrobed woman behind a dressing-room door is apparently too much for men to handle," says Vanity Fair writer Maureen Dowd in 'A Girl's Guide to Saudi Arabia'.

Other more unusual restrictions include:

Entering a cemetery
Reading an uncensored fashion magazine
Buying a Barbie
However, explains Dowd, everything in Saudi Arabia "operates on a sliding scale, depending on who you are, whom you know, whom you ask, whom you're with, and where you are".

But things are slowly beginning to modernise in a country that has historically had some of the most repressive attitudes towards women.  "Women in Saudi Arabia are highly educated and qualified," says Rothna Begum from Human Right Watch. "They don’t want to be left in the dark."

http://www.theweek.co.uk/60339/eleven-things-women-in-saudi-arabia-cant-do

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Copied Sassy's OP {sans the images} perhaps the MEN could read the article NOW!

Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:32 am

sassy wrote:INSPIRE

British Muslim Women
As British Muslim women we believe in the principles of democracy, human rights, peaceful co-existence and respect for life. These are being daily undermined by extremists and terrorists who murder, rape and steal in the name of Islam. We declare that groups like Islamic State, Al Qaeda and Boko Haram do not represent our faith and pose a very real and dangerous threat to our communities and to women’s rights and lives.
‘Making A Stand’
We launched this campaign in 2014 because we wanted to stop the damage caused by extremists poisoning young minds in our communities. As mothers we were losing our children as they turned their backs on us, choosing instead to join the murderous so-called Islamic state having been radicalised online by hate preachers pushing their messages of a false Islam.
Listening to women as they told us of their suffering and unimaginable grief on discovering that their sons and daughters had turned their backs on the family to join ISIS made us realise that if we came together our voice would be stronger.
We decided to make a stand to utterly and unequivocally reject the barbarism of the so-called Islamic state and to reject extremists and radicalisers such as Boko Haram and Al Shabaab.
We were determined to ensure that these terrorists would no longer be able to prey on our children with impunity.
Women now feel empowered to stand up and say: “No more. Enough is enough.” Building on the success of the campaign so far, we visited Birmingham, Luton, Cardiff, Leeds, Burnley, , Bristol, West and East London in order to spread the word.
We are thankful to the Home Office for supporting our Making A Stand campaign. The funding received to deliver projects into communities has helped provide women with an opportunity to better understand how they can protect their children from radicalisation and extremism.


Taking the Lead’

Women are the first defence against radicalisers in our communities.
So as women in our communities we will declare our abhorrence of extremism and take the lead in stopping radicalisers preying on our children and grooming them for violence.
Our Commitment’
Through #makingastand we commit ourselves to rejecting terrorism and violence practised in the name of Islam. Together we will:


  • Challenge hatred and extremism wherever we find it.
    Exert influence in our Mosques and communities.
  • Create local support networks and partner with statutory agencies.
    Equip our communities with counter-narratives and help families identify the signs of radicalization.
  • Spread the word with the use of the #makingastand campaign.


http://www.wewillinspire.com/making-a-stand/

They have been doing stirling work, well done them.
Sadly, Didgy-dooer; you critique of my posts are so far from being able to be taken seriously as if you just keep laying more BS & feeble humor out here for all to see!

BTW - if reading the articles is too much of a comprehension struggle --- then go obtain some assistance; this isn't about DATING...but you only have a single tracked mind about SEX/SEXUAL ISSUES and twists everything & topic into one!  Grow up little child --- you need a nanny!


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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:34 am

4EVER2 wrote:
sassy wrote:INSPIRE

British Muslim Women
As British Muslim women we believe in the principles of democracy, human rights, peaceful co-existence and respect for life. These are being daily undermined by extremists and terrorists who murder, rape and steal in the name of Islam. We declare that groups like Islamic State, Al Qaeda and Boko Haram do not represent our faith and pose a very real and dangerous threat to our communities and to women’s rights and lives.
‘Making A Stand’
We launched this campaign in 2014 because we wanted to stop the damage caused by extremists poisoning young minds in our communities. As mothers we were losing our children as they turned their backs on us, choosing instead to join the murderous so-called Islamic state having been radicalised online by hate preachers pushing their messages of a false Islam.

Listening to women as they told us of their suffering and unimaginable grief on discovering that their sons and daughters had turned their backs on the family to join ISIS made us realise that if we came together our voice would be stronger.

We decided to make a stand to utterly and unequivocally reject the barbarism of the so-called Islamic state and to reject extremists and radicalisers such as Boko Haram and Al Shabaab.

We were determined to ensure that these terrorists would no longer be able to prey on our children with impunity.
Women now feel empowered to stand up and say: “No more. Enough is enough.” Building on the success of the campaign so far, we visited Birmingham, Luton, Cardiff, Leeds, Burnley, , Bristol, West and East London in order to spread the word.

We are thankful to the Home Office for supporting our Making A Stand campaign. The funding received to deliver projects into communities has helped provide women with an opportunity to better understand how they can protect their children from radicalisation and extremism.



‘Taking the Lead’





Women are the first defence against radicalisers in our communities.
So as women in our communities we will declare our abhorrence of extremism and take the lead in stopping radicalisers preying on our children and grooming them for violence.
‘Our Commitment’
Through #makingastand we commit ourselves to rejecting terrorism and violence practised in the name of Islam. Together we will:


  • Challenge hatred and extremism wherever we find it.
    Exert influence in our Mosques and communities.
  • Create local support networks and partner with statutory agencies.
    Equip our communities with counter-narratives and help families identify the signs of radicalization.
  • Spread the word with the use of the #makingastand campaign.


http://www.wewillinspire.com/making-a-stand/

They have been doing stirling work, well done them.
Sadly, Didgy-dooer; you critique of my posts are so far from being able to be taken seriously as if you just keep laying more BS & feeble humor out here for all to see!

BTW - if reading the articles is too much of a comprehension struggle --- then go obtain some assistance; this isn't about DATING...but you only have a single tracked mind about SEX/SEXUAL ISSUES and twists everything & topic into one!  Grow up little child --- you need a nanny!


So nothing and zero to counter the points and immature accusations, you cannot back up
Or do you want me to pull up your previous comment about me not being able to pay for a blind hooker?


What a surprise

Answer the points made.

Its that simple

One last try

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:21 am

Read the article; 'it's about Muslim Women and their vocal SUPPORT and what they OPPOSE' and it's all listed for your reading pleasure! 

You - {yes YOU} have tried to derail this topic by dredging up Saudi & Iran and I provide 1 example for your review and rebuttal and now your back to derailing and attacking and pulling the topic off track as you NORMALLY DO! 
I'm quite educated to your abuse & use of the and I'm not playing!  Go find another foolish human! I've been there and done that and I won't be playing your stupid posting games any more! 

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:23 am

4EVER2 wrote:Read the article; 'it's about Muslim Women and their vocal support and what they OPOSE' and it's all listed for your reading pleasure! 
You - {yes YOU} have tried to derail this topic by dredging up Saudi & Iran and I provide 1 example for your review and rebuttal and now your back to derailing and attacking and pulling the topic off track as you NORMALLY DO! 
I'm quite educated to your abuse & use of the and I'm not playing!  Go find another foolish human! I've been there and done that and I won't be playing your stupid posting games any more! 

I am well aware of the article and have already praised the women

The point is on though the very fact many Muslims women around the world in Muslim majority countries do not have a voice.
The point you are glaringly missing
Your other comments are pathetic, insginificant and childish
Now I really suggest you start growing up

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:26 am

From op...

We are thankful to the Home Office for supporting our Making A Stand campaign [and] The funding received...
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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:54 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:From op...

We are thankful to the Home Office for supporting our Making A Stand campaign [and] The funding received...

  Sorry, Tommy...you'll need to explain your post; was there more - was there a missing element and more about your opinion... 
But here's a rejoinder for our Didgy-dooer's continuing need to go off topic I just read this and thought he'd find it of interest to read > http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/24/saudi-human-rights-activist-sentenced-to-years-in-prison.html

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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:07 pm

I think Tommy is insinuating that they are doing it for the money.  What he doesn't seem to realise is that many groups that are doing something that the Government considers will help the community get funds.   It's just another way for Tommy to Muslim bash, quite pathetic really.
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Post by Lord Foul on Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:11 pm

to explain 4ever

tommy's post was observation AND question AND statement at the same time

he is questioning the rectitude of the beneficiary of those funds, and the reason for their running this campaign

in other words he is asking the pertinant question of

is the cash to help the campaign...or is the campaign there to secure the cash...there is an implied statement there (since we all know what a truely devout cynic tommy is) that he beleives it to be the latter (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Tommy Laughing )

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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:18 pm

Yep, because anything Muslims do is suspect and not good enough, ain't that right. 

So people demand they do something, then when they find out they have been doing something they pick fault.   I think that says everything.
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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm

Hmmm, OKAYYYY; sarcasm I fully understand...just not quite sure what that had to do with the topic, but you all know Tommy better than I! 

I just thought the TY was as all funded organizations did - they publicly THANKED the people that made their publications possible...without listing each & everyone.

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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:26 pm

That's exactly right, and as they are ordinary women they would not be able to do the work they do without some public funding.  They raise a lot themselves, but as their movement is country-wide, they can't fund it all themselves and the Government actually recognise what they are doing is important.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:08 pm

Lord Foul wrote:to explain 4ever

tommy's post was observation AND question AND statement  at the same time

he is questioning the rectitude of the beneficiary of those funds, and the reason for their running this campaign

in other words he is asking the pertinant question of

is the cash to help the campaign...or is the campaign there to secure the cash...there is an implied statement there (since we all know what a truely devout cynic tommy is) that he beleives it to be the latter (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Tommy  Laughing )



No you are quite right...


An excuse to give these lot loads of money... to run around supposedly telling all these nice Muslims we have here in uk to be nice proper Muslims and not the nasty violent type that has nothing to do with islam etc... a handy taxpayer funded pro Muslim propaganda opportunity... and also portrays them as the victims of losing their sons to that nasty mythical radicalisation virus... that also has nothing to do with islam...

I wonder how much tax money goes to these lot... and other 'charities'... billions!!!


Why are we paying Muslims to tell other Muslims to not be national security risks here...!?


We should be inprisioning them and deporting them... and not letting them into the country in the first place!!!
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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:22 pm

Fuck off Tommy, if they were doing nothing you'd have a go, because they are trying to do something you are maligning them and it's not only pathetic, it's bloody disgusting.   Who the fuck do you think you are.   They are doing really good work and trying so hard and tits like you say things like that.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:28 pm




But there isn't a problem according to lefties like you...


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Post by sassy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:31 pm

You're a bloody hypocrite through and through.
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Post by eddie on Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:36 pm

sassy wrote:Fuck off Tommy, if they were doing nothing you'd have a go, because they are trying to do something you are maligning them and it's not only pathetic, it's bloody disgusting.   Who the fuck do you think you are.   They are doing really good work and trying so hard and tits like you say things like that.

Actually to be fair Tommy, sassy does have a point. You'd be bitching about these women if they were on the dole and 'scrounging' Rolling Eyes
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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:59 am


Muslims are the problem... and we shouldn't be paying them taxpayers money to pretend to go around telling each other not to be a problem!


How many of these well needed foreigners are we paying taxpayers money to through so called 'charity funding'...!?


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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:11 am

sassy wrote:You're a bloody hypocrite through and through.


Coming from you... that is priceless!!!


lol!


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The 27,000 charities that survive on taxpayers' cash and lobby for the pet causes of politicians


Thousands of charities are barely disguised fronts for state-backed campaigns, a report warned yesterday.

It said 27,000 groups rely on the taxpayer for more than 75 per cent of their income – with individual donors providing less than half the funding for the entire voluntary sector.

Many of the charities lobby for the pet causes of politicians, according to the Institute of Economic Affairs. The environment, public health, foreign aid, inequality and women’s rights are areas that have been ‘particularly blessed’.
hristopher Snowdon, the report’s author, said government departments should be banned from using public money for advertising campaigns and called for the abolition of unrestricted grants to charities. ‘Government funding of politically active charities, non-governmental organisations and pressure groups is objectionable,’ his study said.

‘Firstly, it subverts democracy and debases the concept of charity. Secondly, it is an unnecessary and wasteful use of taxpayers’ money'



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2157373/The-27-000-charities-survive-taxpayers-cash-lobby-pet-causes-politicians.html
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Tommy Monk wrote:
The 27,000 charities that survive on taxpayers' cash and lobby for the pet causes of politicians

Thousands of charities are barely disguised fronts for state-backed campaigns, a report warned yesterday.
It said 27,000 groups rely on the taxpayer for more than 75 per cent of their income – with individual donors providing less than half the funding for the entire voluntary sector.

Many of the charities lobby for the pet causes of politicians, according to the Institute of Economic Affairs. The environment, public health, foreign aid, inequality and women’s rights are areas that have been ‘particularly blessed’.
hristopher Snowdon, the report’s author, said government departments should be banned from using public money for advertising campaigns and called for the abolition of unrestricted grants to charities. ‘Government funding of politically active charities, non-governmental organisations and pressure groups is objectionable,’ his study said.

‘Firstly, it subverts democracy and debases the concept of charity. Secondly, it is an unnecessary and wasteful use of taxpayers’ money'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2157373/The-27-000-charities-survive-taxpayers-cash-lobby-pet-causes-politicians.html
Sooo, you're still clinging to your 'ANTI-Muslim' deeply seated racial POV, and derailing this topic to promote your need to SLAM your governments funding policies for ALL CHARITIES... Suspect   Good  JOB
 scratch I swear that it was from your very own post...you were requesting fellow members to STAY ON TOPIC; but that was on your very own generated thread...RIGHT???

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:17 am

No I'm sticking with my pov that taxpayers cash should not be used for this purpose.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:46 am

They could do it via the internet of course - no need to go anywhere or get public money.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:04 am

I wonder how much govt money they have had over last 2 years...!?
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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:24 am

I actually agree with Tommy on the subject of government funding of charities. I'd prefer to see governments helping people directly rather than channeling funding to charities, which just adds another layer of salaries and expenses and too often attaches financial aid to a religious agenda.
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Post by Original Quill on Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:34 am

I'd like to see the same sentiment for charities to foreign nations.  We in the USA have just sent 250 more troops to fight ISIS.  

Talk about throwing money down a bottomless pit.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:30 pm


From the link I posted... just in case anyone missed it first time...


Thousands of charities are barely disguised fronts for state-backed campaigns, a report warned yesterday.
It said 27,000 groups rely on the taxpayer for more than 75 per cent of their income –
with individual donors providing less than half the funding for the entire voluntary sector.




We are talking about many tens of billions of tax payer £'s every year!!!

I pay taxes for essential public services and the NHS etc... not for the govt/local councils to hand it away to their pet projects or other so called 'charities'...


And don't forget... most of the money gets used to pay the wages and running costs of each one... only a fraction actually gets through to actually helping anyone!!!



Here's an interesting little story... I go to a local good curry restaurant every now and then... last time I went there I noticed an extra little charge on the bill... it was only 25p and I wondered what it was so asked...

This is what I was told...


It is a small added amount to every bill to go towards funding a 'charity' that the restaurant had set up in order to go towards providing help for poor children in Bangladesh (and Brazil he also claimed) to provide school places etc...


I said that was a good thing to want to try to help... but I also thought that it was something that the respective govts should be already taking care of, not for me to be paying an extra bit for my already expensive Curry to pay for it... I also thought that they probably already get plenty of our money through our international aid budget etc...


But then he told me that the tiny amount was just to get the 'charity' up and running and getting regular contributions... BECAUSE THEN IT COULD GET A 2 STAR RATING AND THEN BE ABLE TO GET GOVT/COUNCIL FUNDING OF EVEN MORE TAXPAYERS CASH!!!


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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:03 pm




One interesting and obviously bullshit statistic stood out in link...


36,000
The number of children, young people and vulnerable adults that Kids Company said they were supporting at time of closure

50%
Of a Kids Company group of young people aged 16-24, assessed by University College London in 2013, claimed to have seen someone being shot or stabbed in their communities within that year**




So 18,000 of these 'kids' said they had seen someone stabbed or shot in that year in the small number of areas in London where this 'charity' operated...!!!



But the evening standard says the official figures show only about 4800 people suffer stab wounds in the whole of London in a year!!!

(And we know only a tiny number of people suffer gun shot wounds a year in london)

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/1000-knife-crime-victims-in-london-each-month-shocking-new-figures-show-8681511.html




So either violent crime is hugely higher than being recorded and the police are lying... or the 'kids'/kids company were lying.....!?
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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:37 pm

I wouldn't deny these women one single penny of any tax funding money they receive to help engage with the Muslim community and the work they do in schools.

We keep hearing that the Muslim community must do more to help stop the extremism but it seems that whenever they do there are people who just can't help themselves from trying to pass them off as fakes just doing it for money or feeding the terrorists.

The funding for the entire counter extremism strategy is only £5 million and it doesn't just cover Islamic extremism it als covers anti semetism and extreme RW groups like neo nazi's.

Feel free to read up on it and possibly come back and say how proud you are for the work these women do.

Jeez there is even a picture of one of the women wearing a Union Jcvk headscarf - flying the flag for Britain.

They're dointg a great job and they need support not all the negativity.

Edit; forgot the link

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/470088/51859_Cm9148_Accessible.pdf
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Post by sassy on Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:52 pm

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Re: The British Muslim Women who have been seeking to inspire others

Post by veya_victaous on Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:01 pm

didge wrote:
sassy wrote:That is utter rubbish, if you had lived in a Muslim country you would know that.


Really, how about Saudi or Iran?

She has a point

I am glad to see that in the west Muslim women have the freedom of speech to speak up in support of democracy and human rights, so well done them.

2 nations whoop de do Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes you can add some more to that list but to suggest it is because they are in Britian as opposed to a Western Nation or a Secular Nation just makes the problem worse.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:28 am

Irn Bru wrote:I wouldn't deny these women one single penny of any tax funding money they receive to help engage with the Muslim community and the work they do in schools.

We keep hearing that the Muslim community must do more to help stop the extremism but it seems that whenever they do there are people who just can't help themselves from trying to pass them off as fakes just doing it for money or feeding the terrorists.

The funding for the entire counter extremism strategy is only £5 million and it doesn't just cover Islamic extremism it als covers anti semetism and extreme RW groups like neo nazi's.

Feel free to read up on it and possibly come back and say how proud you are for the work these women do.

Jeez there is even a picture of one of the women wearing a Union Jcvk headscarf - flying the flag for Britain.

They're dointg a great job and they need support not all the negativity.

Edit; forgot the link

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/470088/51859_Cm9148_Accessible.pdf

I suppose my feeling is that they shouldn't have to do all that work. The onus is on the stupid and extremist Muslims to change, and the public shouldn't have to pay for them to do so.
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:40 am

Irn Bru wrote:I wouldn't deny these women one single penny of any tax funding money they receive to help engage with the Muslim community and the work they do in schools.

We keep hearing that the Muslim community must do more to help stop the extremism but it seems that whenever they do there are people who just can't help themselves from trying to pass them off as fakes just doing it for money or feeding the terrorists.

The funding for the entire counter extremism strategy is only £5 million and it doesn't just cover Islamic extremism it als covers anti semetism and extreme RW groups like neo nazi's.

Feel free to read up on it and possibly come back and say how proud you are for the work these women do.

Jeez there is even a picture of one of the women wearing a Union Jcvk headscarf - flying the flag for Britain.

They're dointg a great job and they need support not all the negativity.
Edit; forgot the link
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/470088/51859_Cm9148_Accessible.pdf
Well stated and SPOT ON - something I've been reading a lot about on all our social media here in America ...where are the rational thinking/sane Muslims that don't have a voice?  And over here they could utilize the NPR {national public radio}= gov. funded.

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:54 am

They find their voice when it suits. They were out on the streets shouting quick enough for the Palestinians
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Post by sassy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:12 am

Shame their march in Paris in support of the victims was stopped because of the ban on demonstrations.

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Not only Palestine they support.

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:18 am

I applaud the minuscule 30 Muslims that condemned the attacks
Wow stop the press.
What about the other millions of Muslims in France not there supporting them?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:25 am

Sassy doesn't seem to understand that nobody should have to be 'engaging the Muslim community' to tell them to not be violent murdering bastards...
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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:21 am

sassy wrote:That is utter rubbish, if you had lived in a Muslim country you would know that.

Different Muslim countries are less radical than others. Take Turkey for instance, as compared to Saudi. So no, it's not utter rubbish, it's a very valid point. This country is extremely tolerant of other cultures and religions in a way many countries are not. These women would not to be allowed to do this in Pakistan or Saudi or Afghanistan, and probably many other Muslim countries.
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