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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:51 am

Even though most people in this country are overweight or obese, I constantly felt pressured to change when I was fat.



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I'm not just talking about the scornful looks from folks in public, or the occasional comment from my mom about my health. It was more subtle than that. There's a pervasive, generally unspoken message that comes from movies, television, advertisements, video games–everywhere, really. Have you noticed that the fat guy, for example, rarely "gets the girl" or plays the leading role in anything other than comedies? "Well why would he?" you might ask. "She's probably not attracted to him–seeing as he's obviously let himself go. And he'd look silly dressed as Spider-Man."
But that's exactly it!


As a fat person, you get the message loud and clear: what you are, what you look like, everything about you, it's not okay. The people on the screens who go for adventures, fall in love, save the world–they aren't like you. They're better. Thinner. But you can play a supporting role as someone else's comedic relief or prissy friend, if you want. That was never good enough for me. I hated being fat. I thought of myself as the thin, athletic guy that I was back in high school; but whenever I looked in the mirror, the damn thing showed me the wrong person. And when I went shopping, anything under size 40 to 42 was too tight. I wore dark colors to hide my bulging midsection, tugged on the bottom of my shirt whenever I stood up, and sucked in my stomach if an attractive woman was nearby.


I knew I needed to change.


But there's another message that was targeted at me: one which says "exercise will make you lose weight." You see thin people walking around in their gym clothes; see the advertisements that feature models running, cycling, lifting weights, doing whatever; and you flip through the channels only to hear Jillian Michaels or some other snake-oil salesman hawking diet pills or shouting like a drill sergeant to work harder and sweat off that weight. I later learned that weight loss begins and ends in the kitchen, but I didn't know this at the time.


So I tried running.


There's a one-mile stretch of road near my mother's house with a good hill at the end. It seemed like a reasonable place to start: sparse traffic, no other runners, no threats of people staring or watching. I laced up a pair of running shoes I purchased a few years earlier, put on some baggy gym shorts and an oversized, cotton t-shirt, and began the first day of my new life.


Or at least that's what I thought it was going to be.


After about twenty seconds, I had to stop and catch my breath. My sides ached as if my lungs had been torn open, sweat poured down my face, and my legs felt weak and rubbery. My entire body felt slow. Heavy.
I was dumbfounded. I used to run back in high school to stay in shape for wrestling and motocross racing, and during my first year with Teach For America, I ran around the track at the gym in-between racquetball games. I'd gained a lot of weight, had a few too many drinks, and spent a lot of time in front of a screen, but still…it wasn't supposed it be like that.


I toughed it out and made it back home. And to my credit, I did continue to run on and off for a few more weeks. But one missed day turned into two, and before I knew it, three or four weeks had gone by without doing anything.
And once you've waited that long, what's one more day, right?

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Post by eddie on Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:21 pm

I haven't read it all but a little sick of obese people moaning about everyone's attitude to them.
It's their own fault (medical issues aside) if they're eating too much and doing nothing.

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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:24 pm

eddie wrote:I haven't read it all but a little sick of obese people moaning about everyone's attitude to them.
It's their own fault (medical issues aside) if they're eating too much and doing nothing.


I was talking at work about this very thing yesterday. How the function which tells us within our brains to say our stomach is full can be medically the issue with some who are obese, but we both agreed, that surely you still know you are getting bigger and eating bigger helpings. That you wold then question why you do not feel full? I mean seriously, it still does not mean people should not help themselves, just because some take longer to recognise they are obese. That does not stop them from exercising and looking to control their genetic problem

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Post by eddie on Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:27 pm

Totally agree. Green
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:36 pm

I know people who say that exercising keeps them slim, but they like doing exercise anyway. The fact is that you have to do a lot of exercise to lose weight - it's much easier to just eat less. Anyway, it's mostly the snacks which do it IMO - crisps, biccies, chocolate, etc.

Running or jogging is not my cup of tea, and I don't think it's particularly natural. Just being more active generally will keep you reasonably fit. The best all-round exercise is dancing IMO.
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:45 pm

You do not have to do a load of excercize to lose weight.
Where on earth do you get that idea from.
Every work morning I get the train from Ashdord to Charing and then walk to Lenham.
Its 4.8 miles and in a couple of weeks have shed a stone in weight and am back to my fitness levels

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:50 pm

didge wrote:You do not have to do a load of excercize to lose weight.
Where on earth do you get that idea from.
Every work morning I get the train from Ashdord to Charing and then walk to Lenham.
Its 4.8 miles and in a couple of weeks have shed a stone in weight and am back to my fitness levels

I doubt it. Walking 5 miles a day would use up about 500 calories. If you're using those calories above and beyond what you need, you would lose about one pound a week. In any case, 5 miles is quite a long way.
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:You do not have to do a load of excercize to lose weight.
Where on earth do you get that idea from.
Every work morning I get the train from Ashdord to Charing and then walk to Lenham.
Its 4.8 miles and in a couple of weeks have shed a stone in weight and am back to my fitness levels

I doubt it. Walking 5 miles a day would use up about 500 calories. If you're using those calories above and beyond what you need, you would lose about one pound a week. In any case, 5 miles is quite a long way.


Wrong, it depends how fast you walk.

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Post by captain on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:54 pm

eddie wrote:I haven't read it all but a little sick of obese people moaning about everyone's attitude to them.
It's their own fault (medical issues aside) if they're eating too much and doing nothing.


People don't always over indulge, eddie. It can be they are eating all of the wrong foods, some food is advertised as being healthy but isn't and packs the pounds on. This was my case at one time plus I would tuck into to many deserts and became addicted to them then drinking these low sugared drinks did not help as they made me fat as well... I know on lady that does not eat a heck of a lot and she can't lose weight. I have warned her off some of the foods she eats but it goes in her one ear and floats out of the other, on a breeze. Laughing


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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I doubt it. Walking 5 miles a day would use up about 500 calories. If you're using those calories above and beyond what you need, you would lose about one pound a week. In any case, 5 miles is quite a long way.


Wrong, it depends how fast you walk.

It doesn't make a lot of difference - 5 miles is 5 miles.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:55 pm

One digestive biscuit is about 70 calories - just one!
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:56 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:


Wrong, it depends how fast you walk.

It doesn't make a lot of difference - 5 miles is 5 miles.


It makes a huge difference, as i walk this in 1 hour 15 minutes, as my pace is very fast for walking.

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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It doesn't make a lot of difference - 5 miles is 5 miles.


It makes a huge difference, as i walk this in 1 hour 15 minutes, as my pace is very fast for walking.

4 miles per hour. Calories used depends on how heavy you are to start with, but I very much doubt you would lose a stone in two weeks that way.
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:58 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:


It makes a huge difference, as i walk this in 1 hour 15 minutes, as my pace is very fast for walking.

4 miles per hour. Calories used depends on how heavy you are to start with, but I very much doubt you would lose a stone in two weeks that way.


I do not care what you think

Simple as that

You are no expert on weight loss or excercize

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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

4 miles per hour. Calories used depends on how heavy you are to start with, but I very much doubt you would lose a stone in two weeks that way.


I do not care what you think

Simple as that

You are no expert on weight loss or excercize

You're just wrong. You're either lying or you eat less than you need to start with. I'm not interested in yet another lecture from you, just so you know. Look up how many calories you would use and then understand that you're talking shite.
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:01 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:


I do not care what you think

Simple as that

You are no expert on weight loss or excercize

You're just wrong. You're either lying or you eat less than you need to start with. I'm not interested in yet another lecture from you, just so you know. Look up how many calories you would use and then understand that you're talking shite.


Based on no evidence or facts you have failed to provide

Again I really do not give a shit what a cretin like you thinks

You set out to start and spoil this thread, now crawl back up your own fat arse

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Post by eddie on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:03 pm

A stone in two weeks is a lot to lose - it's better to lose weight slowly

Jogging is crap as it pounds your joints and joggers have little muscle too, so they just Loo, skinny.

Weight-bearing exercise is the best, but all exercise should be coupled with eating healthily.

Losing weight is about exercise and diet. And maintaining yourself forever by just being sensible and having things you like to eat.

Alcohol is very calorific
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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You're just wrong. You're either lying or you eat less than you need to start with. I'm not interested in yet another lecture from you, just so you know. Look up how many calories you would use and then understand that you're talking shite.


Based on no evidence or facts you have failed to provide

Again I really do not give a shit what a cretin like you thinks

You set out to start and spoil this thread, now crawl back up your own fat arse

You're the one who needs to lose weight - fatty. Go and fuck yourself - that should use up a few calories.
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eddie wrote:A stone in two weeks is a lot to lose - it's better to lose weight slowly

Jogging is crap as it pounds your joints and joggers have little muscle too, so they just Loo, skinny.

Weight-bearing exercise is the best, but all exercise should be coupled with eating healthily.

Losing weight is about exercise and diet. And maintaining yourself forever by just being sensible and having things you like to eat.

Alcohol is very calorific

He's talking shit again - no way does he lose that amount of fat by walking. Eating less is much more efficient way to do it.
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eddie wrote:A stone in two weeks is a lot to lose - it's better to lose weight slowly

Jogging is crap as it pounds your joints and joggers have little muscle too, so they just Loo, skinny.

Weight-bearing exercise is the best, but all exercise should be coupled with eating healthily.

Losing weight is about exercise and diet. And maintaining yourself forever by just being sensible and having things you like to eat.

Alcohol is very calorific

Jogging is not crap, where on earth do you get that from and being that many women love to walk on their toes in high heels has to be the daffiest invention going.
The best exercise is cardio excercize for the heart and running happens to be one of the best

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As for me "spoiling" this thread, I made a perfectly reasonable post. I'm sick and tired of that moron dictating what everyone should say.
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:06 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:


Based on no evidence or facts you have failed to provide

Again I really do not give a shit what a cretin like you thinks

You set out to start and spoil this thread, now crawl back up your own fat arse

You're the one who needs to lose weight - fatty. Go and fuck yourself - that should use up a few calories.


I am not an ugly fat fuck like you

hence why your head has a warning when you go out in public

Laughing

Now stop ruining debates with your immaturity you twat

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Raggamuffin wrote:As for me "spoiling" this thread, I made a perfectly reasonable post. I'm sick and tired of that moron dictating what everyone should say.


Then fuck off if you do not like it, this place will be miles better without you

I am sick to death of you playing the victim

You are at best an idiot

Now you have been told

Fuck off

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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You're the one who needs to lose weight - fatty. Go and fuck yourself - that should use up a few calories.


I am not an ugly fat fuck like you

hence why your head has a warning when you go out in public

Laughing

Now stop ruining debates with your immaturity you twat

I'm not fat or ugly. I'll say what I like - what are you going to do about it? You're just a fat bastard who clearly needs to stop eating all the pies. Laughing
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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:As for me "spoiling" this thread, I made a perfectly reasonable post. I'm sick and tired of that moron dictating what everyone should say.


Then fuck off if you do not like it, this place will be miles better without you

I am sick to death of you playing the victim

You are at best an idiot

Now you have been told

Fuck off

You fuck off, you disgusting pig. No wonder nobody wants to know you in real life.
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Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:


Then fuck off if you do not like it, this place will be miles better without you

I am sick to death of you playing the victim

You are at best an idiot

Now you have been told

Fuck off

You fuck off, you disgusting pig. No wonder nobody wants to know you in real life.



Fuck off medusa, you set out to start and I am going to finish it you chavvy Jeremy Kyle record breaker for apperances

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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You fuck off, you disgusting pig. No wonder nobody wants to know you in real life.



Fuck off medusa, you set out to start and I am going to finish it you chavvy Jeremy Kyle record breaker for apperances

Oh really? Are you going to stay up all night? Make sure you leave time for your 5-mile walk won't you? You don't have time to walk that much - you're stuck on your fat arse all day, every day telling people on here what to think and what to say.
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Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:



Fuck off medusa, you set out to start and I am going to finish it you chavvy Jeremy Kyle record breaker for apperances

Oh really? Are you going to stay up all night? Make sure you leave time for your 5-mile walk won't you? You don't have time to walk that much - you're stuck on your fat arse all day, every day telling people on here what to think and what to say.


lol why would I be working on Saturday?


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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Oh really? Are you going to stay up all night? Make sure you leave time for your 5-mile walk won't you? You don't have time to walk that much - you're stuck on your fat arse all day, every day telling people on here what to think and what to say.


lol why would I be working on Saturday?


You don't work any day - you don't have time as it would interrupt your mission to bludgeon everyone into agreeing with you on a forum.

Keep trolling your own thread - fat loser. Laughing
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Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:


lol why would I be working on Saturday?


You don't work any day - you don't have time as it would interrupt your mission to bludgeon everyone into agreeing with you on a forum.

Keep trolling your own thread - fat loser. Laughing


Sorry was that an insult



So are you looking forward to the paternity test again on Jeremy Kyle?

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Oooh...this thread is going well. Razz
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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You don't work any day - you don't have time as it would interrupt your mission to bludgeon everyone into agreeing with you on a forum.

Keep trolling your own thread - fat loser. Laughing


Sorry was that an insult



So are you looking forward to the paternity test again on Jeremy Kyle?

That's the kind of thing you watch, not me. You sit there on your fat arse eating chips and watching Jeremy Kyle. Laughing
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Raggamuffin wrote:
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Sorry was that an insult



So are you looking forward to the paternity test again on Jeremy Kyle?

That's the kind of thing you watch, not me. You sit there on your fat arse eating chips and watching Jeremy Kyle. Laughing


Watch?

You are its daily star Rags

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didge wrote:
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That's the kind of thing you watch, not me. You sit there on your fat arse eating chips and watching Jeremy Kyle. Laughing


Watch?

You are its daily star Rags

Razz

That would be you - screeching about how nobody listens to you, and how fat you are, and that women run away from you. Poor Didge.
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Syl wrote:Oooh...this thread is going well. Razz

Very well indeed. Laughing
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Syl wrote:Oooh...this thread is going well. Razz

Didge wrecked his own thread because he can't help but start an argument every five minutes. Razz
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Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:


Watch?

You are its daily star Rags

Razz

That would be you - screeching about how nobody listens to you, and how fat you are, and that women run away from you. Poor Didge.


Lol your comebacks are getting more pathetic by the minute


Keep enjoying those chocolates lard arse

Laughing

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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That would be you - screeching about how nobody listens to you, and how fat you are, and that women run away from you. Poor Didge.


Lol your comebacks are getting more pathetic by the minute


Keep enjoying those chocolates lard arse

Laughing

I bet you have a huge stomach - too much beer no doubt. Razz
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Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:Oooh...this thread is going well. Razz

Didge wrecked his own thread because he can't help but start an argument every five minutes. Razz




Never places any blame on herself

Grow the fuck up you retard

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didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Didge wrecked his own thread because he can't help but start an argument every five minutes. Razz




Never places any blame on herself

Grow the fuck up you retard

Nah - I'm having too much fun watching you trolling your own thread.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:21 pm

Didge, the great "expert" in how to lose his own lard, can't keep on topic for more than ten seconds.
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:22 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Never places any blame on herself

Grow the fuck up you retard

Nah - I'm having too much fun watching you trolling your own thread.



Oh so you admit to deliberately spoiling this then?


Thanks, I new you did as well

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:23 pm

didge wrote:
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Nah - I'm having too much fun watching you trolling your own thread.



Oh so you admit to deliberately spoiling this then?


Thanks, I new you did as well

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Haha! Good luck with that. You trolled your own thread and started an argument, just like you do all day, every day. fiesta
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:39 pm

Stormee wrote:Didge is again at the cooking stuff, being totally abhorrent to someone with management condoning it.


Sorry can we have that in English please?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:39 pm

Stormee wrote:Didge is again at the cooking stuff, being totally abhorrent to someone with management condoning it.

The cooking sherry? Laughing
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:55 pm

Stormee wrote:
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The cooking sherry? Laughing

Right on Miss Ragga.

Why is he so abusive ALL THE TIME?


Sorry can we have that in English please?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:58 pm

Stormee wrote:
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The cooking sherry? Laughing

Right on Miss Ragga.

Why is he so abusive ALL THE TIME?

He's inadequate. On every thread I've clicked on, he's there starting an argument with someone. Laughing
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