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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:53 am

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Sonia Guizar used to attend mass regularly and teach at a Catholic school. But her Catholic employer’s refusal to cover birth control brought her an ill-timed pregnancy and a child with developmental challenges that stretch her family thin. When she publicly shared her experience and questioned Church teachings in a Washington Post story, what she got was a heap of abuse from fellow Catholics whose urge to defend religious dogma and authority trumped their kindness and compassion. Guizar’s story may be a very distant echo of the horrendous slaughter being perpetrated by Jihadis shouting “Allahu akbar!”—but it is an echo nonetheless. One of religion’s most heinous characteristics is that it elevates defense of faith above compassion, inspiring mean and aggressive behavior in the names of gods.

The American Supreme Court is considering a “religious freedom” claim by a Catholic charity, the Little Sisters of the Poor, that wants to deny contraception coverage to employees in their chain of nursing homes—mostly working poor women who can ill afford either out-of-pocket birth control costs or a surprise pregnancy. They further want to block the same employees from gaining access to free contraception via an “opt out” mechanism, a religious exemption already established under Obamacare. With the case making news and drawing protests, Guizar shared her own experience of needing birth control that she and her husband couldn’t afford. Fearing she would be fired by her Catholic employer if she tried to get the IUD recommended by her doctor, Guizar and her husband tried to make do with “natural family planning” and ended up pregnant. Their son, born from that pregnancy, has developmental delays and requires therapy multiple times weekly; and the whole ordeal has caused her to question her faith.

Her story is both ordinary and heartbreaking, and most people reading it would ache for her. But in dozens of comments, Catholic defenders of the faith saw fit to instead question either the legitimacy of her devotion, or her strength or integrity:

This is such an obvious hit piece–no catholic would ever say “I no longer celebrate mass” every catholic knows that only a priest can celebrate a mass. [not true]

You couldn’t afford birth control? Really? That’s ridiculous [not true] . . . . And you call yourself a ‘devout’ Catholic and NOT following their doctrine? Again, you don’t know what either devout and/or Catholic means. —Angie Sharp

Then you really were not a Catholic to begin with. Now you just write really dumb stuff! Congratulations you are progressing. I’m sure God will forgive your idiotic apostasy.—Wasachnorth [See No True Scotsman Fallacy]

The Apostle Paul was shipwrecked, tortured and thrown in different jails. You? Well you were told to not use birth control and your faith crumbled. —Give-me-Liberty

The amazing and great thing about America is that you can change your employment! Yes, I know it sounds incredible, but it can be done! If The Church has a tenet that you do not agree with, and it does, then you can adopt a creed more to your liking or get another job. Problem solved. —Steve Fotos

Go find another job. You signed an employment agreement. —Robert PS

I can’t believe this lady ever was a devout Catholic, she may have though she was, but it is obvious she has little understanding of faith and a great understanding of the secular world. . . . If she were really a devout Catholic she might try to follow the example of Mary in saying yes to God, instead of the example of Eve who said no to God and yes to the Snake! —Yvonne Yadler Bean
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Natural planning is just as effective as any other birth control method. [not true—1 in 4 annual pregnancy rate vs 1 in 2000.] . . . . If you really are devout catholic, you should known what the church teaches and if you don’t like it work somewhere else. —pattyanna

Sonia is missing the boat as a “devout” catholic. She says she would have as many children as God intended but cant afford??????????? If her faith in God is solid, then he will take care of the financial “burden” that comes with having kids. As a fellow Catholic . . . .—Hannah Pharis

Perhaps you should read the bible again. JOB would have loved to have been hit with the issue of contraception as opposed to having this faith tried by the loss of his entire family! But you are devout? —Jane1000

If you don’t like your faith because your employer doesn’t pay for contraceptives, than you’ve never had one in the first place. Go demagogue somewhere else.—Pete r Gray



There are many morals or themes that could be drawn from Sonia’s story: The enormous human cost of the Vatican’s anti-contraception stance, especially when it leaves families struggling to care for children with developmental issues (think Zika). The fact that a modern IUD or implant (both of which have bonus health benefits) can be life changing for a woman and her family. The crass dishonesty of any person or institution claiming to be a friend to the poor (or “Little Sister of the Poor”) while denying poor families the means to delay or limit childbearing. The fascinating psychology of religion that compels people to lie to themselves and others once they accept a dogma. The fact most American Catholics follow their own conscience and use modern contraception at some point despite Papal edict. The fact that Catholic tradition itself is conflicted about individuals making this decision.

But during a month of jihadist violence—executions in Ivory Coast, a bombing in Brussels and a bombing in Istanbul, all by people who see themselves as defending the one true faith–what strikes me most about Sonia’s story is the mundane cruelty of her detractors, the fact that even on a topic as ordinary as family planning or a setting as minor as a Washington Post comment thread, religious belief has the power to trump humanity’s deepest shared ethic—the Golden Rule—and our most cherished moral emotion: compassion. I have written in the past about “religion’s dirty dozen,” twelve really bad religious ideas that have made the world worse. The idea that religious beliefs themselves matter more than love and kindness, more than our shared humanity, should be at the top of the list.

Valerie Tarico is a psychologist and writer in Seattle, Washington. She is the author of Trusting Doubt: A Former Evangelical Looks at Old Beliefs in a New Light and Deas and Other Imaginings, and the founder of www.WisdomCommons.org. Her articles about religion, reproductive health, and the role of women in society have been featured at sites including AlterNet, Salon, the Huffington Post, Grist, and Jezebel. Subscribe at ValerieTarico.com.


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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:35 pm

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They can all see for themselves and poor attempt at a backtrack now as well

Oh dear, best you keep


So parents shipping their pregnant daughters off to the above is their fault now is it?

   
Yes, it is their own fault.

I think it's very clear what I said. It's very obvious that you misread it and now you're having to stick to what you thought in order to save face. I think everyone can see for themselves that's the case - if they're at all interested, which I doubt.

Why are you so reliant on what others think of you on here? Are you insecure?


yes its very clear you are saying its the daughters own fault for getting pregnant which is in conjunction with your views earlier in regards to this lady




I am not insecure rags, as I have been in love, which you never have or have been and had a right number done on you and you know what

I have no sympathy

You deserve none based on your lack of empathy

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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:36 pm

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Again you have no comprehension of what it was like for many Catholics who were brainwashed growing up and knew no better

That is why in Ireland for example parents would ship off their pregnant daughters to Magdalene Laundries.
Another Catholic cover up

I hope you remember all that when you're slagging off the Muslims?


Many of them are brainwashed too

I do not slag off Muslims but Islam

I slag off one useful Muslim idiot on here because he is an extremist

So wash your mouth out with soap

lol really have you so wound up

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:38 pm

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I think it's very clear what I said. It's very obvious that you misread it and now you're having to stick to what you thought in order to save face. I think everyone can see for themselves that's the case - if they're at all interested, which I doubt.

Why are you so reliant on what others think of you on here? Are you insecure?


yes its very clear you are saying its the daughters own fault for getting pregnant which is in conjunction with your views earlier in regards to this lady




I am not insecure rags, as I have been in love, which you never have or have been and had a right number done on you and you know what

I have no sympathy

You deserve none based on your lack of empathy

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No, I said it was the parents' fault for shipping them off. Read it again and stop lying.

You are insecure - you spend all your days on here trying to bully people into agreeing with you, and you can't accept that people have their own opinions. You're also very reliant on getting "support" on here - hence your constant references to what the "forum" will think of someone's posts.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:39 pm

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I hope you remember all that when you're slagging off the Muslims?


Many of them are brainwashed too

I do not slag off Muslims but Islam

I slag off one useful Muslim idiot on here because he is an extremist

So wash your mouth out with soap

lol really have you so wound up

ha ha

You slagged off another one too - no wonder she left. She thought you were her friend - more fool her.
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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:39 pm

Didge wrote:
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I hope you remember all that when you're slagging off the Muslims?


Many of them are brainwashed too

I do not slag off Muslims but Islam

I slag off one useful Muslim idiot on here because he is an extremist

So wash your mouth out with soap

lol really have you so wound up

ha ha

You'd know it if I was wound up. I'd start bragging about my car, and how superior I am, how many degrees I've got,  and how stupid others are, and flip flopping from one zealous rant to another....along with pretending my local kebab house was a local restaurant I 'walked' to.  

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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:40 pm

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Didge wrote:


yes its very clear you are saying its the daughters own fault for getting pregnant which is in conjunction with your views earlier in regards to this lady




I am not insecure rags, as I have been in love, which you never have or have been and had a right number done on you and you know what

I have no sympathy

You deserve none based on your lack of empathy

Laughing

No, I said it was the parents' fault for shipping them off. Read it again and stop lying.

You are insecure - you spend all your days on here trying to bully people into agreeing with you, and you can't accept that people have their own opinions. You're also very reliant on getting "support" on here - hence your constant references to what the "forum" will think of someone's posts.


Like I say Rags, its goes hand in hand with you saying earlier its this woman fault for getting pregnant

That is why I know exactly what you meant


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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:42 pm

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Didge wrote:


Many of them are brainwashed too

I do not slag off Muslims but Islam

I slag off one useful Muslim idiot on here because he is an extremist

So wash your mouth out with soap

lol really have you so wound up

ha ha

You'd know it if I was wound up. I'd start bragging about my car (I never did rags bragged about 2, so you are now slagging her off ha ha?, and how superior I am, Never have, how many degrees I've got, You are jealous ha ha and how stupid others are you most certainly are, and flip flopping from one zealous rant to another....along with pretending my local kebab house was a local restaurant I 'walked' to.  

lol!
Going to an italian restaurant, which I shall have to leave you being bitter which you seem to excel at lol


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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:43 pm

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No, I said it was the parents' fault for shipping them off. Read it again and stop lying.

You are insecure - you spend all your days on here trying to bully people into agreeing with you, and you can't accept that people have their own opinions. You're also very reliant on getting "support" on here - hence your constant references to what the "forum" will think of someone's posts.


Like I say Rags, its goes hand in hand with you saying earlier its this woman fault for getting pregnant

That is why I know exactly what you meant


Well you clearly don't. Which bit of this was at all ambiguous?

So you back parents that sent children to be abuse and sometimes even death


No, I don't back them, I'm saying it was their own fault. You're the one excusing them and blaming others for what they did.

Of course it the fault of the women in the OP for getting pregant - and her husband's fault too of course.

Who do you blame for women getting pregnant then? Father Christmas?
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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:43 pm

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Didge wrote:


Many of them are brainwashed too

I do not slag off Muslims but Islam

I slag off one useful Muslim idiot on here because he is an extremist

So wash your mouth out with soap

lol really have you so wound up

ha ha

You slagged off another one too - no wonder she left. She thought you were her friend - more fool her.


Yeah that is because she wished Hitler had finished the job on the Jews

See ya later Miss temper tantrum

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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:44 pm

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Didge wrote:


Like I say Rags, its goes hand in hand with you saying earlier its this woman fault for getting pregnant

That is why I know exactly what you meant


Well you clearly don't. Which bit of this was at all ambiguous?

So you back parents that sent children to be abuse and sometimes even death

 
No, I don't back them, I'm saying it was their own fault. You're the one excusing them and blaming others for what they did.

Of course it the fault of the women in the OP for getting pregant - and her husband's fault too of course.

Who do you blame for women getting pregnant then? Father Christmas?


So you are as said blaming the Irish girls for getting pregnant as well, showing a complete lack of historical knowledge.

Thank you Miss Temper tantrum

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:44 pm

Didge wrote:
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You'd know it if I was wound up. I'd start bragging about my car (I never did rags bragged about 2, so you are now slagging her off ha ha?, and how superior I am, Never have, how many degrees I've got, You are jealous ha ha and how stupid others are you most certainly are, and flip flopping from one zealous rant to another....along with pretending my local kebab house was a local restaurant I 'walked' to.  

lol!
Going to an italian restaurant, which I shall have to leave you being bitter which you seem to excel at lol


lol!

I didn't brag about having two cars, I merely said I had two cars.
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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:45 pm

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Going to an italian restaurant, which I shall have to leave you being bitter which you seem to excel at lol


lol!

I didn't brag about having two cars, I merely said I had two cars.


Speak to Horsehsit, he was the one that claimed bragging off cars lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:47 pm

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Well you clearly don't. Which bit of this was at all ambiguous?



 


Of course it the fault of the women in the OP for getting pregant - and her husband's fault too of course.

Who do you blame for women getting pregnant then? Father Christmas?


So you are as said blaming the Irish girls for getting pregnant as well, showing a complete lack of historical knowledge.

Thank you Miss Temper tantrum

Night

I didn't mention Irish girls, I was talking about their parents - as were you until you pretended you weren't. However, whose fault was it that the girls got pregnant, other than the fathers' fault too obviously?

You're the one having a temper tantrum as usual - because you can't bludgeon people into agreeing with your silly views. Cool
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:49 pm

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I didn't brag about having two cars, I merely said I had two cars.


Speak to Horsehsit, he was the one that claimed bragging off cars lol

Night Miss Temper tantrum

He? Are you now trying to claim that Horatio is male? That's a bit presumptuous of you.

You'll be late with your date with an empty table - you'd best get going. Try not to smash the place up because you're frustrated that you didn't get your own way in this thread ...



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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:54 pm

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Speak to Horsehsit, he was the one that claimed bragging off cars lol

Night Miss Temper tantrum

He? Are you now trying to claim that Horatio is male? That's a bit presumptuous of you.

You'll be late with your date with an empty table - you'd best get going. Try not to smash the place up because you're frustrated that you didn't get your own way in this thread ...





Horsehit is a she, my apologies

As to the other point on getting pregnant it shows two failings you have

One you do not thing young girls can be groomed into sex

You have no conception either for the time how much more vulnerable young girls were at the time

Again your views would back those who manipulate young girls

Which just about sums you up

Try to behave whilst I am out and be a good girl eh

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:56 pm

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He? Are you now trying to claim that Horatio is male? That's a bit presumptuous of you.

You'll be late with your date with an empty table - you'd best get going. Try not to smash the place up because you're frustrated that you didn't get your own way in this thread ...





Horsehit is a she, my apologies

As to the other point on getting pregnant it shows two failings you have

One you do not thing young girls can be groomed into sex

You have no conception either for the time how much more vulnerable young girls were at the time

Again your views would back those who manipulate young girls

Which just about sums you up

Try to behave whilst I am out and be a good girl eh

Razz

So now you're introducing another red herring - "grooming". You have no sense of personal responsibility do you? That explains your lack of self-control on this forum.

I bet you haven't gone yet.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:00 pm

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You slagged off another one too - no wonder she left. She thought you were her friend - more fool her.


Yeah that is because she wished Hitler had finished the job on the Jews

See ya later Miss temper tantrum

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No it's not - you were her friend after that. You turned on her later, like the turncoat you are.

Bye Mr "adrenalin rush" thug. fiesta
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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:02 pm

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Horsehit is a she, my apologies

As to the other point on getting pregnant it shows two failings you have

One you do not thing young girls can be groomed into sex

You have no conception either for the time how much more vulnerable young girls were at the time

Again your views would back those who manipulate young girls

Which just about sums you up

Try to behave whilst I am out and be a good girl eh

Razz

So now you're introducing another red herring - "grooming". You have no sense of personal responsibility do you? That explains your lack of self-control on this forum.

I bet you haven't gone yet.

You are saying young men do not manipulate and groom young girls also into bed

You really are very naive or a virgin

Again I am showing what is known of history and even more so how young girls were very vulnerable in the past

Again people are going to read your comments and just gasp

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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:03 pm

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Yeah that is because she wished Hitler had finished the job on the Jews

See ya later Miss temper tantrum

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No it's not - you were her friend after that. You turned on her later, like the turncoat you are.

Bye Mr "adrenalin rush" thug. fiesta

She was a friend until I found out about her antisemitism

See ya Miss tantrum

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:11 pm

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So now you're introducing another red herring - "grooming". You have no sense of personal responsibility do you? That explains your lack of self-control on this forum.

I bet you haven't gone yet.

You are saying young men do not manipulate and groom young girls also into bed

You really are very naive or a virgin

Again I am showing what is known of history and even more so how young girls were very vulnerable in the past

Again people are going to read your comments and just gasp

Which people would that be? The ones you PM'd and ordered to "gasp"?

It must be killing you trying to get out of the door and still type, knowing that you won't have the last word without cancelling your appointment with an empty table. lol!

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:12 pm

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No it's not - you were her friend after that. You turned on her later, like the turncoat you are.

Bye Mr "adrenalin rush" thug. fiesta

She was a friend until I found out about her antisemitism

See ya Miss tantrum

No - you turned on her later, and she told you where to go - quite rightly. You're a treacherous friend - something which no doubt others have discovered, which is why you're going out to dinner on your own. Laughing
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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:26 pm

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You are saying young men do not manipulate and groom young girls also into bed

You really are very naive or a virgin

Again I am showing what is known of history and even more so how young girls were very vulnerable in the past

Again people are going to read your comments and just gasp

Which people would that be? The ones you PM'd and ordered to "gasp"?

It must be killing you trying to get out of the door and still type, knowing that you won't have the last word without cancelling your appointment with an empty table. lol!


Has he gone on his hot date yet?
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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:29 pm

Ah, well, at least he has someone to cuddle up to when he comes in.

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Which people would that be? The ones you PM'd and ordered to "gasp"?

It must be killing you trying to get out of the door and still type, knowing that you won't have the last word without cancelling your appointment with an empty table. lol!


Has he gone on his hot date yet?

I think so - he's got two minutes before he loses his table. Laughing
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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:55 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I didn't brag about having two cars, I merely said I had two cars.

Both company cars???????????????????????????????????????????




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Post by Syl on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:59 pm

The top car is worth a fortune thanks to it's connections....and Ford Capri's are very collectable nowadays.....I used to have 3 litre one and it was a fabulous little motor.
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Didge wrote:

You are saying young men do not manipulate and groom young girls also into bed

You really are very naive or a virgin

Again I am showing what is known of history and even more so how young girls were very vulnerable in the past

Again people are going to read your comments and just gasp

Which people would that be? The ones you PM'd and ordered to "gasp"?

It must be killing you trying to get out of the door and still type, knowing that you won't have the last word without cancelling your appointment with an empty table. lol!


lol paranoia we can add to your many list of issues lol

People will gasp at how poorly you view people and the dinner was lovely thanks by the way

As to sexy, which is odd you are now looking to stir further, it was what was sent tome she was posting that was antisemitic, that I admit really annoyed me she was racist that was brought to my attention much later, not that its any of your business, but I cannot abide by two faced people.

But being as both you and the other petulant brat Horatio come from a forum called bitchfest, really about sums up the pair of you and even funnier you would both be so wound up you think and look to take digs at people, off a view that its funny to both of you if people are single lol

I mean only those that generally bitch about each others friends are the kind of people you find on that forum and play off thinking they can hurt people being single.

Thank you to you both, you made my night coming back reading this ha ha

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Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:30 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Which people would that be? The ones you PM'd and ordered to "gasp"?

It must be killing you trying to get out of the door and still type, knowing that you won't have the last word without cancelling your appointment with an empty table. lol!


lol paranoia we can add to your many list of issues lol

People will gasp at how poorly you view people and the dinner was lovely thanks by the way

As to sexy, which is odd you are now looking to stir further, it was what was sent tome she was posting that was antisemitic, that I admit really annoyed me she was racist that was brought to my attention much later, not that its any of your business, but I cannot abide by two faced people.

But being as both you and the other petulant brat Horatio come from a forum called bitchfest, really about sums up the pair of you and even funnier you would both be so wound up you think and look to take digs at people, off a view that its funny to both of you if people are single lol

I mean only those that generally bitch about each others friends are the kind of people you find on that forum and play off thinking they can hurt people being single.

Thank you to you both, you made my night coming back reading this ha ha

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You do keep on second guessing about who I am, don't you?   Are you itching to know?

Nothing wrong with being single, Didge.   There is, however, something very wrong about being a bully, which is what you are.
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Syl wrote:The top car is worth a fortune thanks to it's connections....and Ford Capri's are very collectable nowadays.....I used to have  3 litre one and it was a fabulous little motor.

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A Capri V6 in good condition could be bought for a couple of $thousand$ down here these days !

It would probably want to be a racing model, maybe with a Cosworth engine, and in immaculate condition to be "worth a fortune".

NOW then, if it was an early '70s American built Mustang you were talking about, it could go for 10 -- 20 times, or more,  the price of an English Capri at auction..
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Didge wrote:

lol paranoia we can add to your many list of issues lol

People will gasp at how poorly you view people and the dinner was lovely thanks by the way

As to sexy, which is odd you are now looking to stir further, it was what was sent tome she was posting that was antisemitic, that I admit really annoyed me she was racist that was brought to my attention much later, not that its any of your business, but I cannot abide by two faced people.

But being as both you and the other petulant brat Horatio come from a forum called bitchfest, really about sums up the pair of you and even funnier you would both be so wound up you think and look to take digs at people, off a view that its funny to both of you if people are single lol

I mean only those that generally bitch about each others friends are the kind of people you find on that forum and play off thinking they can hurt people being single.

Thank you to you both, you made my night coming back reading this ha ha

Laughing

You do keep on second guessing about who I am, don't you?   Are you itching to know?

Nothing wrong with being single, Didge.   There is, however, something very wrong about being a bully, which is what you are.

Is that why you both ganged up on here being thus a bully?   Razz

You really are not very bright

Not concerned who you are petal, like you its very insignificant

So if there is nothing wrong with being single why play on something in order to attempt to hurt, and fail miserably?

Because you come from somewhere that is aptly named for you

Like I say you are just making me laugh and i am enjoying it.

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Post by nicko on Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:37 am

I had a Capri once, black and gold, a John Player special. I used to smoke Lucky Strikes in it!
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Didge wrote:

lol paranoia we can add to your many list of issues lol

People will gasp at how poorly you view people and the dinner was lovely thanks by the way

As to sexy, which is odd you are now looking to stir further, it was what was sent tome she was posting that was antisemitic, that I admit really annoyed me she was racist that was brought to my attention much later, not that its any of your business, but I cannot abide by two faced people.

But being as both you and the other petulant brat Horatio come from a forum called bitchfest, really about sums up the pair of you and even funnier you would both be so wound up you think and look to take digs at people, off a view that its funny to both of you if people are single lol

I mean only those that generally bitch about each others friends are the kind of people you find on that forum and play off thinking they can hurt people being single.

Thank you to you both, you made my night coming back reading this ha ha

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You do keep on second guessing about who I am, don't you?   Are you itching to know?

Nothing wrong with being single, Didge.   There is, however, something very wrong about being a bully, which is what you are.

He knows I'm not from Bitchfest, and he probably doesn't think you are either. Razz
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Raggamuffin wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

You do keep on second guessing about who I am, don't you?   Are you itching to know?

Nothing wrong with being single, Didge.   There is, however, something very wrong about being a bully, which is what you are.

He knows I'm not from Bitchfest, and he probably doesn't think you are either. Razz


From? I think was very clear you are

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Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

He knows I'm not from Bitchfest, and he probably doesn't think you are either. Razz


From? I think was very clear you are

Razz

You're just in a temper because you got doxed on there. Take it up with them ...
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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:34 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


From? I think was very clear you are

Razz

You're just in a temper because you got doxed on there. Take it up with them ...


Have I?

That is news to me, when did that happen?

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:35 am

Also be a tad difficult as nobody knows my identity even on here

Mainly because some people are just not that bright lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:38 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You're just in a temper because you got doxed on there. Take it up with them ...


Have I?

That is news to me, when did that happen?

Not long ago - they've hidden it now, but I expect members can still see it.
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Didge wrote:


Have I?

That is news to me, when did that happen?

Not long ago - they've hidden it now, but I expect members can still see it.


lol good for them, as what ever is shown is very unlikely to be me.
So you are admitting to be so upset and claiming not to be a member of something you have started as a member there lol

Thanks for the honesty for a change

I really have you wound up ha ha ha

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Raggamuffin wrote:

Not long ago - they've hidden it now, but I expect members can still see it.


lol good for them, as what ever is shown is very unlikely to be me.
So you are admitting to be so upset and claiming not to be a member of something you have started as a member there lol

Thanks for the honesty for a change

I really have you wound up ha ha ha

Upset? No - you're the one who got doxed, and you know it. You're glued to the place. Why you mentioned it is a bit of a mystery though - it seems to be completely off topic.
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lol good for them, as what ever is shown is very unlikely to be me.
So you are admitting to be so upset and claiming not to be a member of something you have started as a member there lol

Thanks for the honesty for a change

I really have you wound up ha ha ha

Upset? No - you're the one who got doxed, and you know it. You're glued to the place. Why you mentioned it is a bit of a mystery though - it seems to be completely off topic.

lol I have no idea that someone has tried to, who cares lol
You brought up claiming I have proving you are there and are a member and know doubt have done this lol

You are my


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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:45 am

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Raggamuffin wrote:

Upset? No - you're the one who got doxed, and you know it. You're glued to the place. Why you mentioned it is a bit of a mystery though - it seems to be completely off topic.

lol I have no idea that someone has tried to, who cares lol
You brought up claiming I have proving you are there and are a member and know doubt have done this lol

You are my


How does that prove I'm on there? You were doxed in public, and then the thread was hidden. You know it because you're glued to the place. That's why you brought it up - you're in a rage because you were doxed on there.
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lol I have no idea that someone has tried to, who cares lol
You brought up claiming I have proving you are there and are a member and know doubt have done this lol

You are my


How does that prove I'm on there? You were doxed in public, and then the thread was hidden. You know it because you're glued to the place. That's why you brought it up - you're in a rage because you were doxed on there.


You brought up something on a forum I am not a member of or even go there, what does that say then who it was.

You clearly ha ha ha


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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:49 am

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How does that prove I'm on there? You were doxed in public, and then the thread was hidden. You know it because you're glued to the place. That's why you brought it up - you're in a rage because you were doxed on there.


You brought up something on a forum I am not a member of or even go there, what does that say then who it was.

You clearly ha ha ha


My little puppet

Razz

You brought up Bitchfest first - for no apparent reason. Were you over there last night to see if you'd been doxed again?
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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:52 am

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Didge wrote:


You brought up something on a forum I am not a member of or even go there, what does that say then who it was.

You clearly ha ha ha


My little puppet

Razz

You brought up Bitchfest first - for no apparent reason. Were you over there last night to see if you'd been doxed again?


Because I know you are a member there and was banned and caused no endless trouble there as you are doing now for the last few days, which it would then after you bring up doxing point to you being the guilty party to something I was unaware of

Yeh ho, it really proves how you are a petulant little spoilt brat lol

Every morning you are kicking off with me and now enough is enough, its time you received a warning or were sent to the basement as its getting boring for everyone your antics and now going to just ignore you and allow you to sulk until you are dealt with

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Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You brought up Bitchfest first - for no apparent reason. Were you over there last night to see if you'd been doxed again?


Because I know you are a member there and was banned and caused no endless trouble there as you are doing now for the last few days, which it would then after you bring up doxing point to you being the guilty party to something I was unaware of

Yeh ho, it really proves how you are a petulant little spoilt brat lol

Every morning you are kicking off with me and now enough is enough, its time you received a warning or were sent to the basement as its getting boring for everyone your antics and now going to just ignore you and allow you to sulk until you are dealt with

Enjoy


Haha! You've been discussing me secretly - you're obsessed! Laughing

You brought up another forum Didge, and you shouldn't have done that now should you? Cool
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Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


Because I know you are a member there and was banned and caused no endless trouble there as you are doing now for the last few days, which it would then after you bring up doxing point to you being the guilty party to something I was unaware of

Yeh ho, it really proves how you are a petulant little spoilt brat lol

Every morning you are kicking off with me and now enough is enough, its time you received a warning or were sent to the basement as its getting boring for everyone your antics and now going to just ignore you and allow you to sulk until you are dealt with

Enjoy


Haha! You've been discussing me secretly - you're obsessed! Laughing

You brought up another forum Didge, and you shouldn't have done that now should you? Cool


No this was told to me ages ago about you, well over a year ha ha ha ha

That shows trouble follows you everywhere

Bless
Now I shall leave you to sulk, as clearly many think you are vile which is not my fault but clearly yours
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Raggamuffin wrote:


Haha! You've been discussing me secretly - you're obsessed! Laughing

You brought up another forum Didge, and you shouldn't have done that now should you? Cool


No this was told to me ages ago about you, well over a year ha ha ha ha

That shows trouble follows you everywhere

Bless
Now I shall leave you to sulk, as clearly many think you are vile which is not my fault but clearly yours
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It's been on your mind for a whole year? You really are obsessed Didge. lol!

I'm not sulking - your meltdown is most amusing. Razz I take it your date with the table didn't go well last night. Laughing
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No this was told to me ages ago about you, well over a year ha ha ha ha

That shows trouble follows you everywhere

Bless
Now I shall leave you to sulk, as clearly many think you are vile which is not my fault but clearly yours
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It's been on your mind for a whole year? You really are obsessed Didge. lol!

I'm not sulking - your meltdown is most amusing. Razz I take it your date with the table didn't go well last night. Laughing



Cuckoo ha ha ha

So where I knew a year ago and said nothing before is obsession to you?

   

I suggest you look at every few posts you start in the morning love to see that its you obsessed.

Sorry love no matter what you physically look like, on the inside you are butt ugly with your hate, so sorry and thanks for the offer, but am still married also..

You will have to wait for someone with the patients of a saint to date you, but he does not exist.

Now you are boring the yell out of me, I would have more of an intellectual discussion with Gordon brown than you   Razz

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It's been on your mind for a whole year? You really are obsessed Didge. lol!

I'm not sulking - your meltdown is most amusing. Razz I take it your date with the table didn't go well last night. Laughing



Cuckoo ha ha ha

So where I knew a year ago and said nothing before is obsession to you?

   

I suggest you look at every few posts you start in the morning love to see that its you obsessed.

Sorry love no matter what you physically look like inside you are butt ugly with your hate, so sorry and thanks for the offer, but am still married also..

You will have to wait for someone with the patients of a saint to date you, but he does not exist.

Now you are boring the yell out of me, I would have more of an intellectual discussion with Gordon brown than you   Razz

Laters

Are you saying that someone PMd you a year ago to tell I was banned from a doxing forum eight years ago? You have some strange friends who are clearly as obsessed as you are Didge. lol!

I'm not the one who goes around beating people up - you are. Does that make you feel like a big man Didge? Your inadequacy shines through. Cool I don't recall making you an offer - I wouldn't touch you with a very long pole - you're a thug, as the court said.
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Cuckoo ha ha ha

So where I knew a year ago and said nothing before is obsession to you?

   

I suggest you look at every few posts you start in the morning love to see that its you obsessed.

Sorry love no matter what you physically look like inside you are butt ugly with your hate, so sorry and thanks for the offer, but am still married also..

You will have to wait for someone with the patients of a saint to date you, but he does not exist.

Now you are boring the yell out of me, I would have more of an intellectual discussion with Gordon brown than you   Razz

Laters

Are you saying that someone PMd you a year ago to tell I was banned from a doxing forum eight years ago? You have some strange friends who are clearly as obsessed as you are Didge. lol!

I'm not the one who goes around beating people up - you are. Does that make you feel like a big man Didge? Your inadequacy shines through. Cool I don't recall making you an offer - I wouldn't touch you with a very long pole - you're a thug, as the court said.


I love beating up hooligans, its a real adrenaline buzz, so how you think or why that would bother me

I grew up boxing so I love fighting

So funny how everything you posts is insignificant and the mindset of a two year old

Again how is it an obsession that someone warned me of you that you are vile?

That is just common sense

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