Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:01 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Anyway, if you wear a boob tube, you should expect it to come adrift at some point.

It didn't come adrift....it was yanked down.



It would have come adrift eventually though - she was fiddling with it before it was pulled down.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by @lex on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:20 pm

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I'm not sure I believe that, given her expression of shock and disbelief. Maybe she just didn't want to challenge a powerful celebrity.

She was most probably flattered rather than intimidated. She was thrilled because old slapper Madonna was saying she looked like a Victorias secrets model.....the girl is 17 and easily impressed.



… But does she actually look thrilled? A picture speaks a thousand words.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Syl on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:20 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:

It didn't come adrift....it was yanked down.



It would have come adrift eventually though - she was fiddling with it before it was pulled down.
The girl pulled her top up...Madonna yanked it down.
Had it slipped down on it's own accord there would be no discussion.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Syl on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:21 pm

@lex wrote:
Syl wrote:

She was most probably flattered rather than intimidated. She was thrilled because old slapper Madonna was saying she looked like a Victorias secrets model.....the girl is 17 and easily impressed.



… But does she actually look thrilled? A picture speaks a thousand words.
No she looks shocked for a second. She said herself afterwards she was thrilled...I think she actually said it was "the best night of my life" or something.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:24 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It would have come adrift eventually though - she was fiddling with it before it was pulled down.
The girl pulled her top up...Madonna yanked it down.
Had it slipped down on it's own accord there would be no discussion.

Yes, yes, I know what happened - I watched it. I'm just saying that boob tubes are generally a bad idea anyway.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by @lex on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:31 pm

Syl wrote:
@lex wrote:
… But does she actually look thrilled? A picture speaks a thousand words.
No she looks shocked for a second. She said herself afterwards she was thrilled...I think she actually said it was "the best night of my life" or something.

Sure, it's just that that sounded like a PR script to me. JMO.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by eddie on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:38 pm

It got people talking about Madonna which Madonna likes seeing as Madonna's star is fading somewhat.

She should use her experience and contacts and go and coach and/or manage some new talent IMO
Preferably a band - as any young solo male or female will just be a version of her, an extension of her ego.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Original Quill on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:55 pm

eddie wrote:It got people talking about Madonna which Madonna likes seeing as Madonna's star is fading somewhat.

She should use her experience and contacts and go and coach and/or manage some new talent IMO
Preferably a band - as any young solo male or female will just be a version of her, an extension of her ego.

Those who can...do,
Those who can't...teach.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by eddie on Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:57 pm

Exactly.

I like her music actually. But I don't know if that's becasue she sings the songs pretty well, or because they're pretty good pop songs (IMO obviously).

I just think she'd probably be wise to make managing and directing, her next step now.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:09 pm

She's still pretty popular - why should she give up singing and performing just because some people think she's too old?
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:11 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:She's still pretty popular - why should she give up singing and performing just because some people think she's too old?

I don't think she's too old to sing and perform, but she is too old to be flashing her crotch and being sexually outrageous.  There's no dignity in that at 57.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Syl on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:13 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:She's still pretty popular - why should she give up singing and performing just because some people think she's too old?

I don't think it's about age...plenty of female singers are older...It's more about the way she acts.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:14 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:She's still pretty popular - why should she give up singing and performing just because some people think she's too old?

I don't think it's about age...plenty of female singers are older...It's more about the way she acts.

Helen Mirren's got it right.   She's elegant and ladylike and that equals sexy at her age.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:15 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:She's still pretty popular - why should she give up singing and performing just because some people think she's too old?

I don't think she's too old to sing and perform, but she is too old to be flashing her crotch and being sexually outrageous.  There's no dignity in that at 57.

There's no dignity in that at any age IMO. Laughing
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Syl on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:16 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
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I don't think it's about age...plenty of female singers are older...It's more about the way she acts.

Helen Mirren's got it right.   She's elegant and ladylike and that equals sexy at her age.

Yes she is....raunchy in her day but she has aged gracefully....something Madonna seems unable to do.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:17 pm

Helen Mirren is 70 - quite a bit older than Madonna.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:19 pm

Syl wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

Helen Mirren's got it right.   She's elegant and ladylike and that equals sexy at her age.

Yes she is....raunchy in her day but she has aged gracefully....something Madonna seems unable to do.

She wants to be careful.  

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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:20 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Helen Mirren is 70 - quite a bit older than Madonna.

A perfect example for us all!!!!
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Syl on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:24 pm

She is older, but she looks more elegant...and possibly younger too.



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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:27 pm

Helen Mirren is an actor though - a different kettle of fish. I don't think people should be compared really. What's absurd is the way some people are calling Madonna an "old woman". rabbit
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:32 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Helen Mirren is an actor though - a different kettle of fish. I don't think people should be compared really. What's absurd is the way some people are calling Madonna an "old woman". rabbit

She's incredibly fit for her age.  She looks amazing when she's dressed in normal attire. It's more her behaviour.  I think after years of being at the top of her game, and as a mediocre singer but a great performer, she's finding it hard to own up to the fact that her looks and body while in good shape are no longer nubile and youthful.   She sold herself through sex, her sexual performances and appearance.  She just can't do that anymore.   It looks desperate and undignified.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:33 pm

Syl wrote:She is older, but she looks more elegant...and possibly younger too.




Mirren doesn't even have to try.   She just is.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Syl on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:37 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Helen Mirren is an actor though - a different kettle of fish. I don't think people should be compared really. What's absurd is the way some people are calling Madonna an "old woman". rabbit

Maybe because of the way she acts she draws attention to her age.
Shirley Bassey and Tina Turner are a lot older...as is Lulu, Cher, and lots of female singers, their age isn't mentioned in a derogatory way because they act their age...she is just so ....sleazy.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Syl on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:38 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Syl wrote:She is older, but she looks more elegant...and possibly younger too.




Mirren doesn't even have to try.   She just is.

She is....I had a sing song with her once...she was surprisingly shy...or maybe she just cant sing very well. Razz
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:40 pm

Syl wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

Mirren doesn't even have to try.   She just is.

She is....I had a sing song with her once...she was surprisingly shy...or maybe she just cant sing very well. Razz

You did?  Do tell!
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Syl on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:47 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Syl wrote:

She is....I had a sing song with her once...she was surprisingly shy...or maybe she just cant sing very well. Razz

You did?  Do tell!

A group of us were in a Manchester restaurant....she came in with some of the cast from Prime suspect which was being shot locally. Their table was next to ours....we were the last two tables left, someone started singing along to a record, their table joined ours, and we all did a song.....she actually joined in with everyones chorus but didn't sing a full song.

When it got to about 3am the restaurant owner had had enough...and he put the caterwailing song from the musical "Cats" on loudly.
We realised we had overstayed our welcome and left....Helen Mirren was chatty, jolly and just 'normal' throughout the night.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Original Quill on Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:04 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
Syl wrote:She is older, but she looks more elegant...and possibly younger too.




Mirren doesn't even have to try.   She just is.

Yes, but I agree with Rags...Helen Mirren is not a showman, but an actress. She plays a role.

I loved her in REDS. Her transition to comedy was great.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by nicko on Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:16 am

but she does swear a lot.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:11 am

Stormee wrote:The judge has told her and Richie to get their heads together over custody of Rocco.

I haven't even followed that story much. The boy is 15, and by the time they've finished arguing he'll be an adult anyway.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:29 am

Stormee wrote:Apparently he is unhappy with Madonna cus of her domineering attitude and lifestyle in general, I reckon he could be embarrassed in front of his mates.
He wants to be with his dad and the Beckhams are famlily friends, he teams up with their eldest lad.

Broken homes are usually a mess, shame.

I would have thought he was old enough to choose who he wants to live with.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by eddie on Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:31 am

Stormee wrote:Apparently he is unhappy with Madonna cus of her domineering attitude and lifestyle in general, I reckon he could be embarrassed in front of his mates.
He wants to be with his dad and the Beckhams are famlily friends, he teams up with their eldest lad.

Broken homes are usually a mess, shame.


Yes storm. Look at the mess those heterosexuals have made of that child eh?
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:35 am

Oh FFS.
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Original Quill on Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:54 pm

Stormee wrote:Apparently he is unhappy with Madonna cus of her domineering attitude and lifestyle in general, I reckon he could be embarrassed in front of his mates.
He wants to be with his dad and the Beckhams are famlily friends, he teams up with their eldest lad.

Mommy Dearest, all over again, eh?
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Re: Is Madonna A Dirty Old Woman?

Post by Original Quill on Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:57 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Stormee wrote:Apparently he is unhappy with Madonna cus of her domineering attitude and lifestyle in general, I reckon he could be embarrassed in front of his mates.
He wants to be with his dad and the Beckhams are famlily friends, he teams up with their eldest lad.

Broken homes are usually a mess, shame.

I would have thought he was old enough to choose who he wants to live with.

One would thinks so. But throw in enough money and you can muck up the purest clarity.

She'll keep it going until the boy reaches 18...and then she'll reap what she sows.
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