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How Does Your Country Handle the 'Selective Service System' or do you have one?

Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:19 pm


Here in America it's mandatory that all of your young men sign the 'Selective Service Forms' on or before their 18th birthday --- it never has been required for our female youth {always thought that was sexists and odd}...

My question is three fold:

1.)How does your country manage the registration {if you have one}

2.)Is this done only for your male young men or do the females have to register too

3.)Is this separate from a voter registration for your country and what age are the youth allowed to vote?

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:45 pm

We don't have that.  When people reach 16 they are given a National Insurance number, they don't fill in any forms to get it, it's sent to you if you are a British Citizen.   If you come here to work you can apply for one.

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:51 pm

What's the 'LEGAL' age to start voting in Britain?
Do you have to pre-register/prove citizenship like we do here in the states now?

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:55 pm

18

you have to register on the electoral roll with your local authority

we let any old tom dick and harry vote here if they remotely look like they may be staying

something labour went for big style when they let in half of pakistan etc during their last term in office

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:57 pm

As normal, Vic is ranting:


Who is eligible to vote at a UK general election?


In England, Scotland or Wales, you can register to vote online at gov.uk/register-to-vote.
In Northern Ireland, visit our Register to vote in Northern Ireland page to download a registration form.To vote in a UK general election a person must be registered to vote and also

  • 18 or over
  • be a British citizen, a qualifying Commonwealth citizen or a citizen of the Republic of Ireland
  • not be subject to any legal incapacity to vote

Additionally, the following cannot vote in a UK general election:

  • members of the House of Lords (although they can vote at elections to local authorities, devolved legislatures and the European Parliament)
  • EU citizens resident in the UK (although they can vote at elections to local authorities, devolved legislatures and the European Parliament)
  • anyone other than British, Irish and qualifying Commonwealth citizens
  • convicted persons detained in pursuance of their sentences (though remand prisoners, unconvicted prisoners and civil prisoners can vote if they are on the electoral register)
  • anyone found guilty within the previous five years of corrupt or illegal practices in connection with an election



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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:29 pm

Why can citizens of the Republic of Ireland or Commonwealth countries vote in a UK election?

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:31 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Why can citizens of the Republic of Ireland or Commonwealth countries vote in a UK election?


In the United Kingdom, full voting rights and rights to stand as a candidate are given to citizens of Ireland and to "qualifying" citizens of Commonwealth countries; this is because they are not regarded in law as foreigners. This is a legacy of the situation that existed before 1949 where they had the status of British subjects

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:32 pm

Well they're not citizens now, so they shouldn't be able to vote.

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:33 pm

One of those 'obligations' you hate so much because of things that happened before lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:35 pm

sassy wrote:One of those 'obligations' you hate so much because of things that happened before lol

Well it's just stupid. It's not the business of Ireland who is in Government here.

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:46 pm

sassy wrote:As normal, Vic is ranting:

Who is eligible to vote at a UK general election?

In England, Scotland or Wales, you can register to vote online at gov.uk/register-to-vote.
In Northern Ireland, visit our Register to vote in Northern Ireland page to download a registration form.To vote in a UK general election a person must be registered to vote and also

  • 18 or over
  • be a British citizen, a qualifying Commonwealth citizen or a citizen of the Republic of Ireland
  • not be subject to any legal incapacity to vote
    Additionally, the following cannot vote in a UK general election:

  • members of the House of Lords (although they can vote at elections to local authorities, devolved legislatures and the European Parliament)
  • EU citizens resident in the UK (although they can vote at elections to local authorities, devolved legislatures and the European Parliament)
  • anyone other than British, Irish and qualifying Commonwealth citizens
  • convicted persons detained in pursuance of their sentences (though remand prisoners, unconvicted prisoners and civil prisoners can vote if they are on the electoral register)
  • anyone found guilty within the previous five years of corrupt or illegal practices in connection with an election

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Fascinating --- TY and it's interesting the way that certain things are phrased like the line of : not be subject to any legal incapacity to vote.


Election Day Alcohol Laws Still Ban Booze Sales In Two States
 11/06/2012 12:28 pm ET | Updated Dec 18, 2014  
Looking forward to popping into a bar after work to watch the election results roll in from across the country over a few pints of beer? You'd better not live in Louisville or Charleston -- or anywhere else in Kentucky or South Carolina. Because those are the last two states in the country to have laws banning the sale of alcohol on Election Day on the books.
In Kentucky, the booze ban [url=http://www.wtvq.com/content/localnews/story/Police-Reminder-No-Alcohol-Sales-While-Polls-Are/CbQyoOPrlk694Vnie48W-w.cspx
]only lasts until polls close at 6 p.m.[/url], but it goes all day in South Carolina.
Five other states -- Delaware, Idaho, Indiana, Utah and West Virginia -- had similar laws this time four years ago, but have since repealed them. All were artifacts of stricter Prohibition-era blue laws, many of which have been rolled back across the country in recent years. The Election Day laws in particular have been traced back to a desire to combat the 19th century tradition of corrupt political bosses trading votes for free booze -- a practice that seems almost quaint in the era of Citizens United.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/election-day-alcohol-laws_n_2082327.html 

Before that referendum was voted on and passed by all the other states {except the 2 listed} I can well remember a line of vehicles making their way out to my grandfathers place --- he brewed up some mighty fine 'Home Brew' and his inventory would be greatly depleted on election days!  Suspect

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:51 pm

LOL, I remember my ex's face when we were travelling across America, stayed in a community motel and went to dinner in the community hall.  He was asked what he wanted to drink, and said a beer and was told in no undercertain terms it was a 'dry county' lol.   It was a long time ago.

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:02 pm

Oh...we still have pockets of that 'DRY COUNTIES' in America; I relocated from one 16 years ago --- everyone had to stop right across the county line and purchase their alcohol beverage of choice prior to going home --- no container booze sold any where 

 But you could go into a pool hall/private club if you were a member and purchase a drink or 2 but you couldn't purchase any to TAKE HOME!  Unless you were great friends with the owners and came around the back door!!!  LOL  Rolling Eyes


Our 'Right To Vote' has undergone quite a few changes since our nations independence; first it was a Special Privilege just allowed for Land Owners --- UGH 
We've come such a long-long way from those days, to be sure! 


 
Voting rights have also been considered an issue related to election systems, particularly since passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. In 1972, the US Supreme Court ruled that state legislatures had to redistrict every ten years based on census results; at that point, many had not redistricted for decades, leading to a rural bias in many states. In addition, the Supreme Court required that both houses of all state legislatures had to be based on election districts that were relatively equal in population size, under the "one man, one vote" principle. In other cases, particularly for county or municipal elections, at-large voting has been repeatedly challenged when found to dilute the voting power of significant minorities, and preventing them from electing a candidate of their choice - a violation of the Voting Rights Act. In the early 20th century, numerous cities established small commission forms of government in the belief that "better government" could result from the suppression of ward politics. Commissioners were elected by the majority of voters, excluding candidates who could not afford large campaigns or who appealed to a minority. Generally the solution to such violations has been to adopt single-member districts (SMDs) but alternative election systems, such as limited voting or cumulative voting, have also been used since the late 20th century to correct for dilution of voting power and enable minorities to elect candidates of their choice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States 

This "one man, one vote" has always been a burr in my saddle pad ideology: say you've got lake property or hunting lodge and there's an land value or some specific regulation for that seasonal home that will impact you and your rights; according to our system --- you aren't allowed to vote on any of those issues UNLESS THAT IS YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE! 

Now that has always seemed like a really ironic issue to me; it's not a local election for someone's position - it's on a ballot because you'll be paying fines/taxes according to the issue --- why wouldn't the land owner be allowed to VOTE on that ballot just for that issue?  But NOPE...can't do it!

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:05 pm

So many rules and regulations, all of them different everywhere you go!

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:06 pm

sassy wrote:So many rules and regulations, all of them different everywhere you go!


And I've always like those nations that just do the 'PURPLE FINGER' --- prove you've voted technique; just keep it simple and get it done!

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:12 pm

That made me laugh!

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:17 pm

Oh and a proportion of those "recent citizens, and commonweath citizens that labour so conveniently supplied somehow seem to manage two votes per voter.....especially in labour held wards

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:13 pm

Lord Foul wrote:Oh and a proportion of those "recent citizens, and commonweath citizens that labour so conveniently supplied somehow seem to manage two votes per voter.....especially in labour held wards


Seeeeee, the 'PURPLE FINGER'

 

system needs to be applied WORLD WIDE  bounce  cheers

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Post by Lord Foul on Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:04 am

mmmmm


and the old "proxy vote" for a nonexistant, but registered "family member"???

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:09 am

Electorial Commission investigation into Voter Fraud

Just to put Vic in context

http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/164609/Electoral-fraud-review-final-report.pdf

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Post by Lord Foul on Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:22 am

Reports of electoral fraud are not widespread across the UK; reports of
significant fraud are focused inspecific places in England and are
concentrated in a small number of local authority areas

I wonder which areas.....and which is the dominant party in those areas? rabbit

and of course this is only whats KNOWN about.....

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