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Post by Lord Foul on Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:08 am

yup, conform or suffer....

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:13 am

lol so nothing to do with UKIP but the EDL

What a load of bullshit

The EDL is listed as a far right extremist organisation

Mr Taylor said his son had accessed a video clip from the BBC before Christmas which showed a March in Luton involving the English Defence League



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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:16 am

English Defence League And British National Party Are As Dangerous As Islamic State, Derbyshire Police Claim


The English Defence league and the British National Party have been compared to the Islamic State by Derbyshire police who say they are "just as much of a real threat".

Speaking to Peak FM Sergeant John Booker said police treat far-right groups the same way they would IS, as they have just as much potential to lead people towards committing terrorist acts.

Booker said: “The biggest threat is very much centred on Syrian and Iraq based groups such as Islamic State however we certainly can’t ignore the right wing issues and the far right issues that do exist in our communities and are just as much of a real threat in terms of community division, hatred and deplorable acts as anything else.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/02/18/english-defence-league-are-as-dangerous-as-islamic-state_n_9263416.html

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:48 am

"We certainly can't ignore the right wing issues and the far right issues"

Sounds like you MUST ignore them, by law, or get hassled by the police for trying to learn. Do they visit people for reading articles about ISIS?

Seems to me that Europe got it totally wrong when it came to fighting the rise of racist-motivated fascism. Leaders just tried to screw a lid on it really tight and now look what's happening -- look how people talk on this very forum.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:28 pm

The police asked the boy... "are you a Ukip activist?"...

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:29 pm

The police asked the boy... "are you a Ukip activist?"...

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:33 pm

That is if of course we believe the hearsay on UKIP and the Police would not come in because of UKIP. So that no doubt is bullshit

Its more like he was looking up the EDL and damn right he got pulled up over it

Extremism covers all extremism, not just Islam

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:53 pm

So what if he looked at one EDL March?


An interest in politics is a good thing... and it is no surprise for someone to want to see for themselves what all the fuss is about after constantly hearing condemnation against groups who aren't actually doing any thing wrong!


The EDL are able official protest group against the Islamisation of the UK after huge levels of Muslim immigration and divisions in the country, and who voiced the reality of the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs when it was being actively denied and covered up by the establishment... no bad thing on its own... and it is a fact that they plan to carry out peaceful marches but the authorities allow violent uaf thugs to attend in close proximity and ignore is them who start kicking off and causing any trouble that occurs!


And Ukip are a totally legitimate political party pushing for the UK to leave the eu federal dictatorship and to regaining our control over our country and democracy and our laws and borders... again, nothing wrong with any of that!!!




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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:56 pm

The EDL are extremist

The Police have to follow up on these things

Its called best practice as it would not be good if he was turning into racist violent scum

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:57 pm

Also who gives a shit about UKIP lol

That was just thrown in by the dad to make the media, now doubt a UKIP drone also lol

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:01 pm

There is nothing extremist about wanting a stop to extremism being imported into our country and allowed to flourish...

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:08 pm

The EDL are classified as extremist

If you do not like this?

Tough shit

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Post by eddie on Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:17 pm

I can't see how looking something up is breaking a law?

Police are only called when a law has been broken.
What law has been broken?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:00 pm

Not conforming to the lefties instructions and propaganda...

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:08 pm

eddie wrote:I can't see how looking something up is breaking a law?

Police are only called when a law has been broken.
What law has been broken?


The Police are doing there job

It could be all innocent, but we have extremism in many forms in this country

Would you rather such things are not investigated if someone is being indoctrinated with hate?

Here for you to read

http://www.preventforschools.org/

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Post by eddie on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:15 pm

You're right, it is better to err on the side of caution but he wasn't caught trying to make a bomb or caught posting on Facebook "Let's March and kick their heads in!"

It's an overreaction to be fair.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:17 pm

Gross over reaction!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:19 pm

Basically we are starting to get to a state where you must believe the 'official' propaganda on everything and if you dare to try to see for yourself what the truth really is then you will be vilified and arrested and persecuted by the authorities!

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:20 pm

Who gives a fuck what you think Tommy

What matters is the Police and intelligence think otherwise to your views on extremism

They target people like you who groom and indoctrinate those with hate

Best you watch yourself I guess

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:21 pm

Who gives a fuck what you think Tommy

What matters is the Police and intelligence think otherwise to your views on extremism

They target people like you who groom and indoctrinate those with hate

Best you watch yourself I guess

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:31 pm


All you have is waffle Dodge!!!


lol!


The EDL may have some unpleasant members among their numbers, but are a peaceful and law abiding and totally legal protest group against Islamic extremism and the Islamisation of this country through continued mass importation of Muslims!


It is the authorities who allow the violent uaf thugs to attend and start trouble as they want to then be able to try to demonise the EDL with media reports of 'violent edl protests' etc...


It is not a crime to look at a video of one of their marches!!!


But in the op, it was also the viewing of a Ukip website site that triggered hostile police response!



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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:34 pm

UKIP is a perfectly legitimate political party, and the EDL is not a banned organisation. The police have no right to question why people are looking at their websites.

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:34 pm

The EDL again are designated an extremist organisation

You fail to understand this

Nobody cares that you think about them, who does is the people that matter

You are not one of them

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:35 pm

TO Rags, yes they have every right under Prevent

EDL is an extremist organisation


English Defence League And British National Party Are As Dangerous As Islamic State, Derbyshire Police Claim


The English Defence league and the British National Party have been compared to the Islamic State by Derbyshire police who say they are "just as much of a real threat".

Speaking to Peak FM Sergeant John Booker said police treat far-right groups the same way they would IS, as they have just as much potential to lead people towards committing terrorist acts.

Booker said: “The biggest threat is very much centred on Syrian and Iraq based groups such as Islamic State however we certainly can’t ignore the right wing issues and the far right issues that do exist in our communities and are just as much of a real threat in terms of community division, hatred and deplorable acts as anything else.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/02/18/english-defence-league-are-as-dangerous-as-islamic-state_n_9263416.html

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:40 pm

As I said, the EDL is not a banned organisation, so nobody can be stopped from looking at their website or joining them.

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:44 pm

They do not have to be banned to be a concern over their extremist views

That is all that matters and it is the same for any looking at such extremist material

There is no harm to have Police question this in case there is a real issue

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:47 pm

Not a proscribed organisation... perfectly legal and law abiding!


What Derbyshire police can 'claim' whatever they want... but it doesn't make it true!

Maybe they should have spent more of their efforts on dealing with the Pakistani Muslim child rape gangs in their area rather than bring part of the denial and cover up team...

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:49 pm

Law abiding you say

http://edlcriminals.com/

Again what you think is like most of the time irrelevant Tommy

What matters is that there is now a prevent strategy to help prevent all extremism, that includes the crap you follow

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:53 pm

If I looked at the EDL or UKIP websites, I wouldn't expect a visit from the police.

Perhaps they should be more concerned about people looking at the Labour party website. Laughing

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:55 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:If I looked at the EDL or UKIP websites, I wouldn't expect a visit from the police.

Perhaps they should be more concerned about people looking at the Labour party website. Laughing


Are you under 18 Rags?

No

But the prevent strategy is aimed at children to prevent extremism

Well if they looked at the Labour website I would agree, as its bound to have racists, terrorist supporters and paedo's

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Post by eddie on Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:13 pm

Does the EDL website have a "you have to be over 18 to view the following content" announcement on its site?

If not, then you don't have to be over 18 I'd have thought.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:36 pm

This thread cracks me up, but it's good to see it dawn on some that authoritarianism is wrong even if you think you're using it for good.


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Post by Lord Foul on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:53 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:This thread cracks me up, but it's good to see it dawn on some that authoritarianism is wrong even if you think you're using it for good.

actually its nothing of the sort....

what it is , is a chief constable of one force exceeding/reinterpreting his brief and indulging in his own piece of political engineering
he is allowing his own political slant to colour the policy which he follows.


the police are supposed to be politically neutral...without fear or favor...but when the lefty's get a sniff of power you just know what going to happen....

He SHOULD, in an ideal world be hauled up in front of the home office commitee and slapped...hard....

It wont happen of course

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:07 pm

This has nothing to do with normal politics, but extreme politics

The EDL politics and where it could lead

The EDL is an extreme organisation and has a history of violent offenders and even would be terrorists

That is not something that should be ignored

Hence Prevent ensures it follows up on such viewings

How is that wrong?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:09 pm

[quote=Didge]Law abiding you say

http://edlcriminals.com/

Again what you think is like most of the time irrelevant Tommy

What matters is that there is now a prevent strategy to help prevent all extremism, that includes the crap you follow[/quote]


Dodge... the EDL organisation is itself a totally legal and law abiding organisation... some of its members may well be unsavoury... that is a different matter entirely!


The EDL is a protest movement against islamic extremism and against the Islamisation of the UK by the continued allowance of mass immigration of Muslims.


It is not extremist to be against Islamic terrorists and nor is it extremist to be against the islamisation of the uk or by wanting to see an end to mass immigration.




And Ben. .. when will you get it...!?


It is our lefties here who want authoritarian and excessive state control... the rest of us want small state and small state interference in our lives!



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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:10 pm

[quote=Didge]Law abiding you say

http://edlcriminals.com/

Again what you think is like most of the time irrelevant Tommy

What matters is that there is now a prevent strategy to help prevent all extremism, that includes the crap you follow[/quote]


Dodge... the EDL organisation is itself a totally legal and law abiding organisation... some of its members may well be unsavoury... that is a different matter entirely!


The EDL is a protest movement against islamic extremism and against the Islamisation of the UK by the continued allowance of mass immigration of Muslims.


It is not extremist to be against Islamic terrorists and nor is it extremist to be against the islamisation of the uk or by wanting to see an end to mass immigration.




And Ben. .. when will you get it...!?


It is our lefties here who want authoritarian and excessive state control... the rest of us want small state and small state interference in our lives!

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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:13 pm

It may be law abiding as many extremist groups are

Ever hear of the Muslim brotherhood?

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