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The God of Chaos

Post by stardesk on Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:27 pm

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Hi gang, sitting having my breakfast my mind wandered into a fantasy scenario. Imagine it if you will:
God is lounging in his armchair with a cute Angel on his lap, when there's a knock at his door.
"Hello chief, we were wondering if you’ve got a cosy little planet we can live on."
"Yes," says he, pointing out the window at a little blue planet. "There’s one I’ve just made, now bugger off, I’m busy."
A little while later the door opens gingerly and the Alien stood there looking a bit crestfallen.
"We’re not living there! You must be joking, you didn’t do a very good job, did you. Some of the mountains are spewing out burning, boiling lava, the ground shakes and splits under our feet, the seas keep spilling over the land, there are bugs galore endangering our health, the wind keeps blowing down trees, and a host of other bad points. No way mate, bye bye, we’re off round the Galaxy to find somewhere more hospitable.” And who can blame them?

In the beginning was the word, and the word was -well, two words actually-: ‘Oh bugger!’ Despite the comment: Genesis 1. V. 31: ‘And God saw everything he had made, and, behold, it was very good…’ Lol, was it?

EARTHQUAKE 1456 AD Naples, Italy, 35,000 killed.
FLOOD 1421 AD Holland, 100,000 killed.
FLOOD 1362 AD Germany, 30,000 killed.
HAIL STORM 1359 AD France, 1,000 killed.
FLOOD/FAMINE 1332-33 Peking, China, 6 million killed.
BIG FREEZE 1315-17 AD across Ireland & Europe, many thousands died.
EARTHQUAKE 1290 AD Bohai, China, 100,000 killed.
EARTHQUAKE 1268 AD Asia Minor (now Turkey) 60,000 killed.
FLOOD 1219 AD Jutland/Denmark, many thousands.
EARTHQUAKE 1202 AD Lebanon, 100,000 Killed.
EARTHQUAKE & VOLCANO 1169 AD Mt. Etna & Sicily, 15,000 killed.
FLOOD 1099 AD East Coast UK. Many thousands.
DROUGHT/FAMINE 1199-1202 Egypt, 100,000 died.
EARTHQUAKE 1138 AD Syria, 230,000 killed.
DROUGHT 1069 AD England, 50,000 Died.
DROUGHT/FAMINE 1064-72 Egypt 4,000 Died.
EARTHQUAKE 1040 AD Iran 50,000 killed.
EARTHQUAKE 1038 AD Shanxi Province, China, 23,000 killed.
EARTHQUAKE 893 AD Iran 150,000 killed.
EARTHQUAKE 856 AD Iran 200,000 & Greece 45,000 = 245,000 killed.
EARTHQUAKE 526 AD Antioch region Syria/Turkey: 250,000 killed.
EARTHQUAKE & TSUNAMI 365 AD Egypt/Alexandria 50,000 killed.
PLAGUE 164-180 AD Throughout Syria & Europe: 7 Million.
EPIDEMIC 166 AD throughout Middle East & Europe: 1/3 rd of the population.
VOLCANO 79 AD Vesuvius, Italy: 16,000 killed.
EARTHQUAKE 217 BC Alexandria, Egypt: 75,000 killed.
AVALANCHE 218 BC Italian Alps: 18,000 killed.
EARTHQUAKE 373 BC Greece: Many thousands killed.
EARTHQUAKE 464 BC Greece: 20,000 killed.
FAMINE/DROUGHT 3,500 BC Egypt: Many thousands perish.
BIG FREEZE 10,000 BC Siberia: Woolley Mammoths extinguished.
METEOR STRIKE Siberia: 39 mya Many life-forms extinguished such as birds and animals.
DEVONIAN PERIOD: 70% of life killed.
CRETACEOUS PERIOD 65 mya meteorite in USA kills 75% of life.
PERMIAN PERIOD: 250 mya: Volcanoes in Siberia killed 90%, mass extinction.
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Shall I go on? For since 1456 there have been many more millions of people killed, such as the Bubonic Plague which swept through Europe, the Middle East, and N. Africa between 1346 & 1352 AD. Killing 30 million. There have been many more plagues and natural disasters which have killed many millions of people. A long list of fatalities caused by our unstable planet. Negative thinking you might say, but no, just being realistic and factual.


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Re: The God of Chaos

Post by stardesk on Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:26 pm

VEYA, you said:  'and Thus Why I have adopted the Aboriginal's Gods into my personal pantheon.

I am interested in being their audience.'
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I'm sure you know about Aboriginal myths but here's a few which our members might find interesting:

The Wagilak sisters travelled from Arnhem Land across the country. As they went they created water holes and life. There’s quite a longish story attached to their travels, so cutting it short, they stopped at a water hole where the older sister polluted the water with her menstrual blood. A great python, being angry at this, came out of the water, swallowed the sisters and caused a flood which covered the surface of the earth. When he lay down again the waters receded. This is probably based on the time the last Ice-Age melted about 10-11,000 years ago.

In the South Eastern Australia we find a male creator Ngurunderi, named as Baiame in other places. Also known as Daramulun, and other names. Cutting the story short on one occasion he lifted his canoe out of the water, placed it in the sky and where it became the Milky Way.

In other parts of Australia they speak of the Great Earth Mother.

In north east Arnhem Land we find the two Djanggawul sisters, called ‘The Daughters of the Sun.’ Probably another name for the Wagilak sisters.

Then of course we have ‘The Dream Time, a period of creation which, according to some Aboriginal tribes is still going on.

In N.W. Australia the Unambal tribe say that in the beginning only the sky and earth existed. Ungud, the creator being is associated with both the earth and water. The sky being Wallanganda is associated with the Milky Way and supposed to have made everything. Together Wallanganda and Ungud created everything.

The Wandjina are ancestral spirits in the Western Australian region, who were responsible for forming parts of the landscape, its animals and plants.

In the northern territory we find the ‘Old Woman,’ variously known as Kunapipi; Mumuna; Kliarin-Kliari. She is said to be the source of life in both the human and natural world.

In the Central Desert region we find yet another creator being named Atain-tjina.

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:36 pm

stardesk wrote:VEYA, you said:  'and Thus Why I have adopted the Aboriginal's Gods into my personal pantheon.

I am interested in being their audience.'
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I'm sure you know about Aboriginal myths but here's a few which our members might find interesting:

The Wagilak sisters travelled from Arnhem Land across the country. As they went they created water holes and life. There’s quite a longish story attached to their travels, so cutting it short, they stopped at a water hole where the older sister polluted the water with her menstrual blood. A great python, being angry at this, came out of the water, swallowed the sisters and caused a flood which covered the surface of the earth. When he lay down again the waters receded. This is probably based on the time the last Ice-Age melted about 10-11,000 years ago.

In the South Eastern Australia we find a male creator Ngurunderi, named as Baiame in other places. Also known as Daramulun, and other names. Cutting the story short on one occasion he lifted his canoe out of the water, placed it in the sky and where it became the Milky Way.

In other parts of Australia they speak of the Great Earth Mother.

In north east Arnhem Land we find the two Djanggawul sisters, called ‘The Daughters of the Sun.’ Probably another name for the Wagilak sisters.

Then of course we have ‘The Dream Time, a period of creation which, according to some Aboriginal tribes is still going on.

In N.W. Australia the Unambal tribe say that in the beginning only the sky and earth existed. Ungud, the creator being is associated with both the earth and water. The sky being Wallanganda is associated with the Milky Way and supposed to have made everything. Together Wallanganda and Ungud created everything.

The Wandjina are ancestral spirits in the Western Australian region, who were responsible for forming parts of the landscape, its animals and plants.

In the northern territory we find the ‘Old Woman,’ variously known as Kunapipi; Mumuna; Kliarin-Kliari. She is said to be the source of life in both the human and natural world.

In the Central Desert region we find yet another creator being named Atain-tjina.

Would I could travel the world and be able to sit at camp fires/local family gatherings to listen and record their unique stories handed down from generation to generation...so many wonderful connections that we all have but are written in so many different languages. I love you

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Post by stardesk on Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:41 pm

Hi Aspca. I agree. How lovely it would be to sit at their campfires listening to their story tellers, telling tales of long ago, of gods and goddesses, of battles, of triumphs and failures.
The world is full of stories, no less here in Europe, especially the Celtic and Norse legends, and of course the Pagan stories here in the UK.

I presume, rightfully or wrongly, that these stories came from country to country as Mankind slowly moved from out of Africa and populated the world. Fascinating stuff isn't it.

I've studied mythology for years and due to that it has helped me to put God into perspective.

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Re: The God of Chaos

Post by veya_victaous on Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:51 pm






here is a better explanation. as to how they are told it is NOT like other religions it is your interpretation of the 'dreaming' dimension.
 
it is disingenuous to present the tales as 'history' or even people suggesting that these things happened in the past it is not, it is a different interpretation of the time/space continuum  past present and future are all one in the 'dreaming' Also you can't actually write them down. the Music and movement of the dancers is part of the story

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This might interest you, if you've never heard or read Elizabeths work...

Post by Guest on Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:25 pm

stardesk wrote:Hi Aspca. I agree. How lovely it would be to sit at their campfires listening to their story tellers, telling tales of long ago, of gods and goddesses, of battles, of triumphs and failures.
The world is full of stories, no less here in Europe, especially the Celtic and Norse legends, and of course the Pagan stories here in the UK.

I presume, rightfully or wrongly, that these stories came from country to country as Mankind slowly moved from out of Africa and populated the world. Fascinating stuff isn't it.

I've studied mythology for years and due to that it has helped me to put God into perspective.


What's so wonderful about NPR...they do recycle their fascinating shows so that if within the week that this one was broad cast you missed segments --- it's bound to come around again and it's easy to catch aired sections that were missed.


A Road Trip In Search Of America's Lost Languages
 
Updated March 5, 20121:38 PM ET

The vast majority of the 175 indigenous languages still spoken in the United States are on the verge of extinction.

Linguist Elizabeth Little spent two years driving all over the country looking for the few remaining pockets where those languages are still spoken — from the scores of Native American tongues, to the Creole of Louisiana. The resulting book is Trip of the Tongue: Cross-Country Travels in Search of America's Lost Languages.

"I put, I think, 25,000 miles on my poor, long-lost Subaru that has since been consigned to the afterlife for cars," she tells Jackie Lyden, guest host of weekends on All Things Considered.

The first part of the book deals with Native American languages such as Navajo. Little writes the language is disappearing fast. Among kindergartners in one reservation school district, fluency dropped from 89 percent at the beginning of the 1980s to just a few percent by the end of the decade. Little says one reason for its decline is that the Navajo community is less geographically and technologically isolated.

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"Once there is more television, you know, cable television and the Internet, and once younger members of the tribe have more ability to be exposed to the English language, the heritage language really drops off pretty quickly," she says.

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/04/147728920/a-road-trip-in-search-of-americas-lost-languages 


Something for all of us aging adults to keep in mind...what our language will resemble once history has written some text books about the 'written word pre-internet/twitter/Iphones/Texting...

Will humanity wonder what 'CODE' we were talking in this the 21st century or will English have changed that drastically that they'll need a 'decoder' just to read our printed words???  LOL

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