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Post by eddie on Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:43 am

Very interesting and completely sums up my problem with religion:


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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:36 am

OR there are multipule Gods... Like everything else in the universe.
they are imperfect, and they are competitive thus All the Athiest Reasons from perfect god junk are explained by that. Loki tries to make Thor look bad and vice versa, e.t.c.

OR the god(s) is a being of Chaos Much like the universe it self appears to be.

And thus We are all Wrong and Right at the same time.
The Vastness of the universe renders all Irrelevant





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Post by eddie on Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:11 am

Bumped for didge

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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:11 am

eddie wrote:Very interesting and completely sums up my problem with religion:


Hi Eddie

It was very good and does sum up the problem very well and how religion is geographical.
I have said before if there is a deity, we are simply, just as we treat many life species ourselves, insignificant. As why would be significant if we were just part of the end results of an experiment? Because we exist, us humans have a unique arrogance thinking for some reason we are special and given some elevated status over all species, of which religion in the Abrahamic faiths is massively to blame for. But think about it, if we are like no more than countless other experiments, which we need to do on animals for life saving drugs or part of a complex computer simulation to obtain results. In the former we do not care that we need to take life, as the greater need is for ourselves in saving life. In the later we do not build within these simulation a fake heaven or hell, as there is no necessity to do so. So if then there is a deity and the experiment was to see if life could gain hold through the most extreme conditions, where the chances were extremely remote. Why would it then need to create an afterlife for only just one of those species that evolved and on only one planet out of numerous planets where life became sustainable?

Think about it, is only our morbid fascination with death and most of all fear that drives such beliefs. Its why religious people tend to be happier per say than those less religious or non-religions, as people still do fear death. If people just accepted this would be far happier and at ease with life. As religious people have allowed a belief to conquer the fear of death, even nothing will come after death. Who knows if this was part of the experiment or we evolved this trait, but it certainly helps fool people into believing a life after death, which then overcomes that fear of death.

So even if a deity did exist, we would be insignificant to them and just the results of an experiment, as that would explain very much how and why people and animals suffer.

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Post by eddie on Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:53 am

Interesting points.

I liked how the video made each religion as wrong, as eachother.

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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:59 am

eddie wrote:Interesting points.

I liked how the video made each religion as wrong, as eachother.



That part was brilliant Eddie, where I also liked what the atheist said at the end, with how also the labels for each person changed throughout

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Post by eddie on Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:01 am

Yes the labels made it a basic simple fact.
Very interesting video.

Might look for more from the same maker

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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:05 am

Be good if you can find some more Eddie

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:57 am

eddie wrote:Interesting points.

I liked how the video made each religion as wrong, as eachother.

But did you notice it did so by Avoiding Buddhist, Taoist and Pagan Smile 
Athiests are cherry pickers, they fight only the weakest  Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
any of the 3 would have provided answers to the Athiest's self righteous rant about how athiests are wonderful perfect people.
I am sure Victor could wipe the floor with that athiest that with such weak reasons for their athiesm.

In fact only Hindu and Scientology was not Abrahamic and even then it greatly misrepresented the complexity of Hinduism, being a polythiest religon it's dynamic is majorly different than a monothiest, 'ruler of the gods' doesn't mean has to be worshipped by everyone. (Odin may have ruled Assgard but Thor had more followers on earth) 
Vishnu in Hinduism is not the same in any way as Bible god. He is in Vaishnavism which is the hybrid of Christian and Hindu (missionaries trying to fit bible into local stories).
If you want to derride a religon at least get the rigth one, If that person is monothiest than they are Vaishnavist not Hindu.


Vishnu is the second god in the Hindu triumvirate (orTrimurti). The triumvirate consists of three gods who are responsible for the creation, upkeep and destruction of the world. The other two gods are Brahma and Shiva.
Brahma is the creator of the universe and Shiva is the destroyer. Vishnu is the preserver and protector of the universe.
His role is to return to the earth in troubled times and restore the balance of good and evil. So far, he has been incarnated nine times, but Hindus believe that he will be reincarnated one last time close to the end of this world.
Vishnu's worshippers, usually called Vaishnava, consider him the greatest god. They regard the other gods as lesser or demi gods. Vaishnava worship only Vishnu. Vishnu monotheism is called Vaishnavism.




Plus Xenu is not meant to be a perfect diety, he is super powerful alien that may or may not actually give a shit about us. If you want to mock Scientology at least learn about how crazy it actually is.

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Post by eddie on Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:04 am

I though the video did mention Buddhists?

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