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Post by eddie on Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:03 am

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For all you science geeks.
If you don't watch all three vids then don't bother commenting as I want to discuss them.

Made by scientists and comments by experts.

If you sont come away at the very least a little dubious or like this scratch then you're lying.

And!
If you don't watch it perhaps you don't want to know. If that's the case, don't waste my time trying to debate.

Better to watch on a laptop or biggish screen.
PART ONE

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:39 pm

Again you see sassy goes off what she finds unusal, to then make a claim, which has no validitty as there was an appointment, which proves the loons are desperate

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:41 pm

sassy wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:The onus is on sassy to prove there was no appointment which you think would be very easy to check, yet nothing has turned up.
If you make a claim, then you have to back it
Rags does not have to do your work

Lordy, lordy you are as thick as two planks, even if there was an appointment he could have made it to cover himself, as he always had breakfast in the Tower with his daughter.  They BOTH made excuses that day.

You could have just made that up.

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:47 pm

You do realise Rags why she views Larry Silverstein as lying?
He is of jewish ethnicity.

That is her reasoning to basically faslify a claim against him, to fit her parnoid delusions where she wants the world to believe Israel pulled this off and not the islamic terrorists themselves.
Why does she want the world to turn against Israel?
To leave them defenseless.
Why leave them like this?
As she wishes to see Israel destroyed

Once you read between the lines you see why sassy can easily not believe a person based on her antisemism.


Again:

A freakishly large number of truthers are shamelessly anti-Semitic, blaming various US neoconservatives (come on, people), property owner Larry Silverstein, and the Mossad for planning/covering up the attack. Many truthers also seem to be of the opinion that a group of Ay-rabs couldn't have planned an operation this complex, a slightly (but only slightly) more subtly racist attitude reminiscent of Erich von Däniken, Orientalism and a host of other "[insert group here] couldn't possibly have done X (subtext: because they are too ignorant/uncivilized)"-claims

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:54 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

Lordy, lordy you are as thick as two planks, even if there was an appointment he could have made it to cover himself, as he always had breakfast in the Tower with his daughter.  They BOTH made excuses that day.

You could have just made that up.

How about hearing it from the horses mouth:



http://youtu.be/84doiQHJ5rQ

Clear admission that he always had breakfast with his daughter except on 9/11.
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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:56 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Lol I asked for Zack to present the experts that have peer reviwed these so called papers that refute the 9/11 findings and he cannot present a single one from the same field the work has been presented off.

So again for your education, present your experts, because you have just proven how uneducated you are

Notice how nobody is stupid enough to defend you or back you up.
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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:58 pm

Oh dear epic fail from Zack the other poster driven by antisemitismn

Where is the evidence he did not have an appointment

Notice both the regressive left and the Islamist both seek to yet again deligitmize someone ethnicially Jewish.

What does that tell you about them both?

What do they both hope to gain, by inventing a lie to blame Israel and not Al-Qaeda

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:59 pm



http://youtu.be/j2q2mD2HaKA

Admission that the owner demolished WTC7 on 9/11. It did not fall as a result of the twin towers falling.
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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:00 pm

So after asking zack so many times, he cannot produce experts within the same field providing their reviews and that they agree with the findings, thus making it a peer review.

Not sure how many more times he is going top weasel out of

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:00 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Oh dear epic fail from Zack the other poster driven by antisemitismn

Where is the evidence he did not have an appointment

Notice both the regressive left and the Islamist both seek to yet again deligitmize someone ethnicially Jewish.

What does that tell you about them both?

What do they both hope to gain, by inventing a lie to blame Israel and not Al-Qaeda

He says it on tape. HA HA HA HA HA! cheers

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:01 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So after asking zack so many times, he cannot produce experts within the same field providing their reviews and that they agree with the findings, thus making it a peer review.

Not sure how many more times he is going top weasel out of

Bruv - I just made you look a complete idiot by exposing the fact you don't even know what peer review means.

Don't make me kick you while you're down lol!
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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:01 pm

So zack trhinks pull means destroy and not pull out


ha ha ha
you just proved you are a vile little nazi

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:03 pm

1.56 he says THEY MADE THE DECISION TO PULL THE BUILDING AND IT CAME DOWN!

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:03 pm

So again still more excuses and no exerts here give a peer review and not even in a single refutablke scientific journal

ha ha ha ha

Poor boy outght to slap himself in the face he is such an embarresment

I am no brother to a nazi either boy  lo

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Post by Eilzel on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:04 pm

The 'truthers' can't even get their own story straight. Was there a plane or not? The news apparently was in on the whole thing, yet broadcast endless clues for the scooby doo gang conspiracy theorists to salivate over.

No answer as to what actually happened to the hjacked airplanes of course..,

How anyone can believe this BS is beyond me.

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:04 pm

See how the loons invent something he did not mean

I rest my case

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:05 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You could have just made that up.

How about hearing it from the horses mouth:



http://youtu.be/84doiQHJ5rQ

Clear admission that he always had breakfast with his daughter except on 9/11.

Thank you for at least attempting to show some evidence. However, he didn't mention his daughter in that clip, let alone say that he always had breakfast with his daughter except on 9/11. Someone else in that video claimed that, but he didn't.


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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:05 pm

THEY MADE THE DECISION TO PULL AND THEN WE WATCHED THE BUILDING COLLAPSE.

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:07 pm

Well its evident why at least two here believe this Eilzel, which is very evident as they wish to place blame on another nation.

As to Eddie, I just think she likes conspiracies.

I mnean sorry but to claim a person when he says pull, means to pull a building down, based after the event, not takling in context he clearly mean pull everyone out, is as about as idiotic as it g

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:09 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:

How about hearing it from the horses mouth:



http://youtu.be/84doiQHJ5rQ

Clear admission that he always had breakfast with his daughter except on 9/11.

Thank you for at least attempting to show some evidence. However, he didn't mention his daughter in that clip, let alone say that he always had breakfast with his daughter except on 9/11. Someone else in that video claimed that, but he didn't.


“After a last-minute breakdown in the front-running bid, Mr. Silverstein’s team won by a hair. His son, Roger, and his daughter, Lisa, were working for him in temporary offices on the 88th floor of the W.T.C. north tower. Regular meetings with tenants in the weeks immediately following their July 26, 2001, takeover of the building were held each morning at Windows on the World. But on Sept. 11, Roger and Lisa Silverstein were running late. Meanwhile, Mr. Silverstein’s wife of 46 years had laid down the law: The developer could not cancel an appointment with his dermatologist, even to meet with tenants at his most important property. If the attack had happened just a little later, Mr. Silverstein’s children would likely have been trapped at Windows. As it was, Silverstein Properties lost four employees in the attack, two of whom had just recently been hired.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20081012085011/http://www.observer.com/node/47252

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:14 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Thank you for at least attempting to show some evidence. However, he didn't mention his daughter in that clip, let alone say that he always had breakfast with his daughter except on 9/11. Someone else in that video claimed that, but he didn't.


“After a last-minute breakdown in the front-running bid, Mr. Silverstein’s team won by a hair. His son, Roger, and his daughter, Lisa, were working for him in temporary offices on the 88th floor of the W.T.C. north tower. Regular meetings with tenants in the weeks immediately following their July 26, 2001, takeover of the building were held each morning at Windows on the World. But on Sept. 11, Roger and Lisa Silverstein were running late. Meanwhile, Mr. Silverstein’s wife of 46 years had laid down the law: The developer could not cancel an appointment with his dermatologist, even to meet with tenants at his most important property. If the attack had happened just a little later, Mr. Silverstein’s children would likely have been trapped at Windows. As it was, Silverstein Properties lost four employees in the attack, two of whom had just recently been hired.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20081012085011/http://www.observer.com/node/47252

So this is now a different argument to the breakfast with the daughter one? So she was running late - there's nothing unusual about that. Clearly, if her father was going to a medical appointment, and he was supposed to be having breakfast with her, he probably rang her to say he would not be at the WTC until later, so why would she go to meet him for breakfast anyway?


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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:14 pm

More hearsay, nothing from  the horses mouth

Do you know what is even more daft.
On what planet can this business man give authority for a building to be demolisihed.
What authority do the Fire service in the America have and access to demolitions?

Why is it none of them have stated they blew up the building?

When you start to look closer at the claims, they are based off one single word.

Pull

Then as seen a multitude of more b ullshit is created around this, even though the word pull reffered to moving everyone out

That is a how a conspiracy forms, based off a misunderstanding off one word, and the fact he is immediatelly suspected as complict because he is Jewish ethnicity.That is about the worst antisemitism you can get.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:15 pm

Now Rags, what evidence do you have that he rung her lol.  Amazing how all three survived, just amazing.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:15 pm

Let's not forget that the first plane hit the WTC at about 8.46 am. That's pretty early really - I should think a lot of people hadn't arrived for work at that time.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:16 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Let's not forget that the first plane hit the WTC at about 8.46 am. That's pretty early really - I should think a lot of people hadn't arrived for work at that time.

You are joshing, do you know what time they start work in New York?   Why do you think it was a 'breakfast' meeting?

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sassy wrote:Now Rags, what evidence do you have that he rung her lol.  Amazing how all three survived, just amazing.

I didn't claim that he did ring her. It's common sense isn't it? If you were expecting to meet someone for breakfast and you had to go somewhere else, wouldn't you let them know?

None of this is proof of anything anyway. Where is the evidence that his daughter was always in the WTC before 8.46 am every day? Where is the evidence that any of them knew there was going to be an attack?

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:19 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:Now Rags, what evidence do you have that he rung her lol.  Amazing how all three survived, just amazing.

I didn't claim that he did ring her. It's common sense isn't it? If you were expecting to meet someone for breakfast and you had to go somewhere else, wouldn't you let them know?

None of this is proof of anything anyway. Where is the evidence that his daughter was always in the WTC before 8.46 am every day? Where is the evidence that any of them knew there was going to be an attack?

Ah, so now you can claim things without back up lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:21 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Let's not forget that the first plane hit the WTC at about 8.46 am. That's pretty early really - I should think a lot of people hadn't arrived for work at that time.

You are joshing, do you know what time they start work in New York?   Why do you think it was a 'breakfast' meeting?

More speculation from you. I don't know what time they start work, but I did find this.

In the United States, United Kingdom and Australia, the hours between 9 am and 5 pm (the traditional "9 to 5") are typically considered to be standard business hours, although in the United States this varies by region due to local tradition and the need to conduct business by telephone with people in other time zones. For instance, business in Chicago is often conducted between 8 am and 4:30 pm, while in New York City, business hours tend to be later—for instance, from 10 am to 6 pm. On Saturdays businesses are usually open from 8 or 9 am to noon or 1 pm.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:22 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I didn't claim that he did ring her. It's common sense isn't it? If you were expecting to meet someone for breakfast and you had to go somewhere else, wouldn't you let them know?

None of this is proof of anything anyway. Where is the evidence that his daughter was always in the WTC before 8.46 am every day? Where is the evidence that any of them knew there was going to be an attack?

Ah, so now you can claim things without back up lol

It was an opinion. You really need to stop presenting your opinions as facts, and telling anyone who doesn't agree with you that they're stupid. If you make claims which you present as factual, you need to back them up or just say that it's your opinion.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:28 pm

This is the post you made Sassy. You see how you presented it as a factual statement?

Yep, also amazing the man that owned the Tower used to lunch there, with his daughter, every day without fail. On that day he told his daughter to stay away and he didn't go in either.

First of all, what is the relevance of him having lunch there, with or without his daughter? I don't know anyone who has lunch before 8.46 am.

Secondly, where is your evidence that he told his daughter to stay away? When did he allegedly tell her that?

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:33 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:This is the post you made Sassy. You see how you presented it as a factual statement?

Yep, also amazing the man that owned the Tower used to lunch there, with his daughter, every day without fail.  On that day he told his daughter to stay away and he didn't go in either.

First of all, what is the relevance of him having lunch there, with or without his daughter? I don't know anyone who has lunch before 8.46 am.

Secondly, where is your evidence that he told his daughter to stay away? When did he allegedly tell her that?


OMG, said it was breakfast not lunch.  And they met for it everyday, as people who worked there have testified, to hold breakfast work meetings with tenants and business associates and to be seen, in The Windows on the World Restaurant.  On that day, he and his family didn't arrive.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:37 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:This is the post you made Sassy. You see how you presented it as a factual statement?



First of all, what is the relevance of him having lunch there, with or without his daughter? I don't know anyone who has lunch before 8.46 am.

Secondly, where is your evidence that he told his daughter to stay away? When did he allegedly tell her that?


OMG, said it was breakfast not lunch.  And they met for it everyday, as people who worked there have testified, to hold breakfast work meetings with tenants and business associates and to be seen, in The Windows on the World Restaurant.  On that day, he and his family didn't arrive.

You said "lunch" Sassy. However, I accept that you posted in a sloppy manner and you meant breakfast.

What time did this daughter arrive for breakfast every day?

When did he tell his daughter to "stay away", and where is the evidence for that?

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:02 pm

I didn't post 'in a sloppy manner', I was posting to people who I had already discussed things with and who know about Silverstein.

Now, I suggest you do your own research.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:10 pm

sassy wrote:I didn't post 'in a sloppy manner', I was posting to people who I had already discussed things with and who know about Silverstein.

Now, I suggest you do your own research.

I suggest you research the difference between lunch and breakfast.

I've done research on your claim, and there is nothing to substantiate it, so I consider that it can be dismissed as nonsense.

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Post by eddie on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:34 pm

sassy wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:I watched all 3 Eddie.

Yes, there are many holes in the official version of 9/11 and more people like you are waking up to the truth that this vile attack has nothing to do with Islam.

But of course, you're being mocked in this forum and even trying to shut you up, lest you be seen as some sort of crazy person.

In fact, the Americans and the elite (like Rothschild's - see Niall Ferguson's work on this) used Islam to create a clash of civilisations in order to exert its power.

Many people forget the blueprint published in 2000 (before 11/09/2001) - in fact a few months befor GW Bush is elected.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

2 things to notice about this report -

1. The people who wrote the report played a key role in advising the administration of GW Bush, esp during his first term

2. Page 51 of report: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

Let's also not forget that Robin Cook was also murderd for trying to reveal that bin Laden, Khalid SM were CIA agents and Al Qeada was an American creation. "Al Qaeda Mamalut" translates as "The Data Base" of mujahideen fighting for the US against the Russians in Afghanistan.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jul/08/july7.development

I've also been trying to find Trevor McDonalds interview with Bush in 2000 (a year before 9/11) where he admits he has a strategy to convince the American people to attach Iraq - unfortunately you won't find this interview online anymore. It's been conveniently removed.

Lastly, analyse those who died (supposedly) on Flight 11 - and more importantly who "conviniently missed the flight". Those who missed the flight have been associated with certain groups of "elites".

Yep, also amazing the man that owned the Tower used to lunch there, with his daughter, every day without fail.  On that day he told his daughter to stay away and he didn't go in either.

Do you mean Lucky Larry Silverstein?


@Zack, what makes me laugh is the fact that no one has disputed the scientists theory and no one has mentioned the "ball" and no one has mentioned that in the video of the first attack - you see the explosion but no plane and no one has explained that a plane flying that low (never mind that pilots and experts had said it was pretty much impossible!) wasn't heard by ANYONE on the street yet it clearly shows people on the street and the second "plane" hitting and no one has explained away the experts accounts of the planes clearly not looking like planes at all and no one has mentioned that there was a big crater where the fourth "plane" hit yet no plane was seen (and the only "evidence" of a plane being there was tiny fragments but no bodies??!)

Oh the list goes on.

I have put up three videos and the robots have said "Rubbish!"
Now they can explain how the first scientist was wrong and they can explain what the "ball" was and all that other unanswered questions that appear on the videos.

Would love to hear it.
But I won't of course.


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Post by eddie on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:36 pm

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sassy wrote:I didn't post 'in a sloppy manner', I was posting to people who I had already discussed things with and who know about Silverstein.

Now, I suggest you do your own research.

I suggest you research the difference between lunch and breakfast.

I've done research on your claim, and there is nothing to substantiate it, so I consider that it can be dismissed as nonsense.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t12842-meet-lucky-larry


I think sassy is referring to this

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:36 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Well its evident why at least two here believe this Eilzel, which is very evident as they wish to place blame on another nation.

As to Eddie, I just think she likes conspiracies.

I mnean sorry but to claim a person when he says pull, means to pull a building down, based after the event, not takling in context he clearly mean pull everyone out, is as about as idiotic as it g

HA HA HA HA HA!

Please provide a single example of where the term "pull down a building" has been used in the context of evacuating a building?

Your arguments are now becoming more and more moronic.

Here's a full legitimate examples of the phrase:

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1. To bring something down from a higher level to a lower one: Could you pull that book down from the shelf for me? After the concert, we went around town and pulled down all the advertisements.
2. To demolish or destroy some structure; raze something: They're pulling down the movie theater and putting in a shopping mall. When someone got injured on the old water tower, the city council decided to pull it down.
3. To reduce something to a lower amount: Lower wages have not pulled down the price of consumer goods, and many people can no longer afford the bare necessities. Airline ticket prices have risen over the past year, but lower fuel costs should soon pull them down.
4. To depress someone, as in spirits or health: This fight with his parents is really pulling him down.
5. To draw some amount of money as wages; earn something: She pulls down a hefty salary as a lawyer.

Maybe you meant "pull down all the people from the building, destroy their structure, lower their wages, which will depress them". Basketball tongue

That's the problem with you and Rags, you're given evidence from the source but yet still question the authenticity. It is people like you who are closed minded fools.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:39 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:

Yep, also amazing the man that owned the Tower used to lunch there, with his daughter, every day without fail.  On that day he told his daughter to stay away and he didn't go in either.

Do you mean Lucky Larry Silverstein?


@Zack, what makes me laugh is the fact that no one has disputed the scientists theory and no one has mentioned the "ball" and no one has mentioned that in the video of the first attack - you see the explosion but no plane and no one has explained that a plane flying that low (never mind that pilots and experts had said it was pretty much impossible!) wasn't heard by ANYONE on the street yet it clearly shows people on the street and the second "plane" hitting and no one has explained away the experts accounts of the planes clearly not looking like planes at all and no one has mentioned  that there was a big crater where the fourth "plane" hit yet no plane was seen (and the only "evidence" of a plane being there was tiny fragments but no bodies??!)

Oh the list goes on.

I have put up three videos and the robots have said "Rubbish!"
Now they can explain how the first scientist was wrong and they can explain what the "ball" was and all that other unanswered questions that appear on the videos.

Would love to hear it.
But I won't of course.


I'm in the process of watching the first video featuring the "ball", but it's quite hard going. In order to investigate the claims fully, one would need to refer to other videos and reporting of the moment of the impact - that can't be done in five minutes.

If someone posted three videos of the official version which added up to an hour, would you bother to watch it or would you just say that people shouldn't believe what they see or read?

I do recall some people saying that they heard the second plane anyway.

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:41 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:

Yep, also amazing the man that owned the Tower used to lunch there, with his daughter, every day without fail.  On that day he told his daughter to stay away and he didn't go in either.

Do you mean Lucky Larry Silverstein?


@Zack, what makes me laugh is the fact that no one has disputed the scientists theory and no one has mentioned the "ball" and no one has mentioned that in the video of the first attack - you see the explosion but no plane and no one has explained that a plane flying that low (never mind that pilots and experts had said it was pretty much impossible!) wasn't heard by ANYONE on the street yet it clearly shows people on the street and the second "plane" hitting and no one has explained away the experts accounts of the planes clearly not looking like planes at all and no one has mentioned  that there was a big crater where the fourth "plane" hit yet no plane was seen (and the only "evidence" of a plane being there was tiny fragments but no bodies??!)

Oh the list goes on.

I have put up three videos and the robots have said "Rubbish!"
Now they can explain how the first scientist was wrong and they can explain what the "ball" was and all that other unanswered questions that appear on the videos.

Would love to hear it.
But I won't of course.


Of course they haven't seen it.

They don't even realise how much information we will never know, due to secrecy.

What you will get is a lot of lazy name calling. These people are the useful idiots who allow the elite to get away with mass murder for the sake of global power and riches.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:41 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I suggest you research the difference between lunch and breakfast.

I've done research on your claim, and there is nothing to substantiate it, so I consider that it can be dismissed as nonsense.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t12842-meet-lucky-larry


I think sassy is referring to this

I see. There's not much substance to it is there? He was indeed fortunate that he wasn't in the WTC at the time, but that's not proof of anything. As for the insurance, of course he would insure the buildings.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:43 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:Well its evident why at least two here believe this Eilzel, which is very evident as they wish to place blame on another nation.

As to Eddie, I just think she likes conspiracies.

I mnean sorry but to claim a person when he says pull, means to pull a building down, based after the event, not takling in context he clearly mean pull everyone out, is as about as idiotic as it g

HA HA HA HA HA!

Please provide a single example of where the term "pull down a building" has been used in the context of evacuating a building?

Your arguments are now becoming more and more moronic.

Here's a full legitimate examples of the phrase:

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1. To bring something down from a higher level to a lower one: Could you pull that book down from the shelf for me? After the concert, we went around town and pulled down all the advertisements.
2. To demolish or destroy some structure; raze something: They're pulling down the movie theater and putting in a shopping mall. When someone got injured on the old water tower, the city council decided to pull it down.
3. To reduce something to a lower amount: Lower wages have not pulled down the price of consumer goods, and many people can no longer afford the bare necessities. Airline ticket prices have risen over the past year, but lower fuel costs should soon pull them down.
4. To depress someone, as in spirits or health: This fight with his parents is really pulling him down.
5. To draw some amount of money as wages; earn something: She pulls down a hefty salary as a lawyer.

Maybe you meant "pull down all the people from the building, destroy their structure, lower their wages, which will depress them". Basketball tongue

That's the problem with you and Rags, you're given evidence from the source but yet still question the authenticity.  It is people like you who are closed minded fools.

He didn't say "pull down a building" though.

I don't know why you're dragging me into that post because I haven't even addressed the issue of the other building. I merely observed that the video you posted did not feature Larry Silverstein mentioning his daughter, as you claimed it did.

I would say you were biased and quite desperate to believe that the attack was not carried out by Islamic terrorists.

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:45 pm

Blame the Jew again, you cannot make it up and all based and started off one single word

Pull


No reason given to hwo he could order or arrange the demolition of a building.
The Fire crew knowing how to handle demoition charges or even being licensed to do so.
Where not one Fire offfcier has stated they blew up the building and yet back the view they help clear the building.
So one single word taken out of context alows for the worst further claims made onto his character. All of course false.
The worst part is because he is jewish, it is this more than anything of which he has been viified on, to the point he is part of a Mossad operation.
And people do not realise that by accepting such a stance are backing a very antisitic stance here.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:46 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
eddie wrote:

Do you mean Lucky Larry Silverstein?


@Zack, what makes me laugh is the fact that no one has disputed the scientists theory and no one has mentioned the "ball" and no one has mentioned that in the video of the first attack - you see the explosion but no plane and no one has explained that a plane flying that low (never mind that pilots and experts had said it was pretty much impossible!) wasn't heard by ANYONE on the street yet it clearly shows people on the street and the second "plane" hitting and no one has explained away the experts accounts of the planes clearly not looking like planes at all and no one has mentioned  that there was a big crater where the fourth "plane" hit yet no plane was seen (and the only "evidence" of a plane being there was tiny fragments but no bodies??!)

Oh the list goes on.

I have put up three videos and the robots have said "Rubbish!"
Now they can explain how the first scientist was wrong and they can explain what the "ball" was and all that other unanswered questions that appear on the videos.

Would love to hear it.
But I won't of course.


Of course they haven't seen it.

They don't even realise how much information we will never know, due to secrecy.

What you will get is a lot of lazy name calling. These people are the useful idiots who allow the elite to get away with mass murder for the sake of global power and riches.

Lazy name calling? You mean like you calling people "fools" or "idiots" for not agreeing with your version of events - for which you have produced no evidence whatsoever.

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Post by Eilzel on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:48 pm

Eds, so some nut in a video claims there is a ball in one piece of footage which he asserts is a plane in doctored footage. And this catastrophic giveaway is apparently given by one of the news agencies apparently in on the lie. Come on, even less wacko truthers say it was a plane (an unmarked one, but still a plane).

The ball theory, along with rest, is bullshit.

You all just lap it up like the hungry scooby doo gang you are Wink

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:49 pm

So zack has never hear people see

Pull that person from the burning building

Pull that person away from the car.

Pull the people back from the building.

When you want to destroy a building the genral termionaology is Bring the nuilding down.


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Post by eddie on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:50 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:

Yep, also amazing the man that owned the Tower used to lunch there, with his daughter, every day without fail.  On that day he told his daughter to stay away and he didn't go in either.

Do you mean Lucky Larry Silverstein?


@Zack, what makes me laugh is the fact that no one has disputed the scientists theory and no one has mentioned the "ball" and no one has mentioned that in the video of the first attack - you see the explosion but no plane and no one has explained that a plane flying that low (never mind that pilots and experts had said it was pretty much impossible!) wasn't heard by ANYONE on the street yet it clearly shows people on the street and the second "plane" hitting and no one has explained away the experts accounts of the planes clearly not looking like planes at all and no one has mentioned  that there was a big crater where the fourth "plane" hit yet no plane was seen (and the only "evidence" of a plane being there was tiny fragments but no bodies??!)

Oh the list goes on.

I have put up three videos and the robots have said "Rubbish!"
Now they can explain how the first scientist was wrong and they can explain what the "ball" was and all that other unanswered questions that appear on the videos.

Would love to hear it.
But I won't of course.


I'm in the process of watching the first video featuring the "ball", but it's quite hard going. In order to investigate the claims fully, one would need to refer to other videos and reporting of the moment of the impact - that can't be done in five minutes.

If someone posted three videos of the official version which added up to an hour, would you bother to watch it or would you just say that people shouldn't believe what they see or read?

I do recall some people saying that they heard the second plane anyway.

Yes but intend to believe what I see with my own eyes. No one looks up until they hear the impact of the building being hit.
I find that more odd than anything else I've seen or read; you know a "plane" has hit a building yet the loudest of loud noises of a plane flying low, above you head, and you don't even flinch or glance up?
The second video gives you the details of the noise that would've made.

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Post by eddie on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:52 pm

Eilzel wrote:Eds, so some nut in a video claims there is a ball in one piece of footage which he asserts is a plane in doctored footage. And this catastrophic giveaway is apparently given by one of the news agencies apparently in on the lie. Come on, even less wacko truthers say it was a plane (an unmarked one, but still a plane).

The ball theory, along with rest, is bullshit.

You all just lap it up like the hungry scooby doo gang you are Wink


Ok he's a nut. He's a qualified scientist and has carried out extensive research and experiments and yet you think he's a nut?
Do you only like scientists you believe in then?

Les, honestly, no disrespect, but you stopped watching the video and you haven't disputed anything. You just call people a "nut" and mate, that's not debate.

Did you see a plane then, when you looked at the "ball"?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:53 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I'm in the process of watching the first video featuring the "ball", but it's quite hard going. In order to investigate the claims fully, one would need to refer to other videos and reporting of the moment of the impact - that can't be done in five minutes.

If someone posted three videos of the official version which added up to an hour, would you bother to watch it or would you just say that people shouldn't believe what they see or read?

I do recall some people saying that they heard the second plane anyway.

Yes but intend to believe what I see with my own eyes. No one looks up until they hear the impact of the building being hit.
I find that more odd than anything else I've seen or read; you know a "plane" has hit a building yet the loudest of loud noises of a plane flying low, above you head, and you don't even flinch or glance up?
The second video gives you the details of the noise that would've made.

I haven't finished the first video yet - I'll still on the issue of the "ball". This guy is about to get quite technical, and I need more tea before I can concentrate. It's not easy you know - we've been through all this before, and it's hard going trying to find all the available info.

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:55 pm

I am still waiting to know how a fire crew had authroity and access to demoloitions charges, as the loons claims. Or had the authority to destroy a building. Or even any connection showing money transferred to them to make them complict.
I mean its a no brainer, that what he meant was pull out, based off advise from the fire crew.
Only because he is Jewish, the antismities disgustingly think he is part of some absurd elaborate Mossad plan. It shows how disgusting some people are.
The reason they are doing this, is they want to blame this atrocity onto Israel, and not on the known terrorists who did 9/11.
That is the worst antisemitism you can get, as it is fundemnetally based on the fact he is jewish where this claim stems from


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Post by eddie on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:56 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:

Yep, also amazing the man that owned the Tower used to lunch there, with his daughter, every day without fail.  On that day he told his daughter to stay away and he didn't go in either.

Do you mean Lucky Larry Silverstein?


@Zack, what makes me laugh is the fact that no one has disputed the scientists theory and no one has mentioned the "ball" and no one has mentioned that in the video of the first attack - you see the explosion but no plane and no one has explained that a plane flying that low (never mind that pilots and experts had said it was pretty much impossible!) wasn't heard by ANYONE on the street yet it clearly shows people on the street and the second "plane" hitting and no one has explained away the experts accounts of the planes clearly not looking like planes at all and no one has mentioned  that there was a big crater where the fourth "plane" hit yet no plane was seen (and the only "evidence" of a plane being there was tiny fragments but no bodies??!)

Oh the list goes on.

I have put up three videos and the robots have said "Rubbish!"
Now they can explain how the first scientist was wrong and they can explain what the "ball" was and all that other unanswered questions that appear on the videos.

Would love to hear it.
But I won't of course.


Of course they haven't seen it.

They don't even realise how much information we will never know, due to secrecy.

What you will get is a lot of lazy name calling. These people are the useful idiots who allow the elite to get away with mass murder for the sake of global power and riches.

I know they didn't watch it. I knew they wouldn't.
They're frightened, that's all it is, I post these things up - and to date this is the first "science" one I've posted - yet this "scientist" is a "nut"
Why? They dont know. He just is.

Well hitler was a nut, and he was in charge of a whole country and done loads of damage until people realised he was a nut.

Doesn't matter. If the TV says the sun is blue well then, the TV and the government said so....so it just be true.

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Post by Fuzzy Zack on Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:58 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So zack has never hear people see

Pull that person from the burning building

Pull that person away from the car.

Pull the people back from the building.

When you want to destroy a building the genral termionaology is Bring the nuilding down.

All the examples you gave are of "pulling people".

Larry was clearly referring to pulling a BUILDING. D'UH! HA HA!

Bruv, there's 2 choices - you're either stupid or you're lying.
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