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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:11 am

Muslim nations around the world have decided to join forces and set up a military coalition to combat terrorism. There has been increasing pressure on Muslim nations, especially the rich Gulf states, to do more to fight against the Islamic State (Isis) militant group.

The alliance, led by Saudi Arabia, will see 34 Muslim nations join forces to "protect the Islamic nation from the evils of all terrorist groups and organisations." Majority Shi'ite Muslim Iran was conspicuous by its absence from the list of nations.

A statement published by Saudi Arabia's state news agency SPA said more than 10 countries, including Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, have "expressed their support" for the alliance and will take the necessary measures. A joint operations centre will be set up in Riyadh to coordinate and support military operations to fight terrorism and "to develop the necessary programmes and mechanisms to support these efforts."

The statement said that "appropriate arrangements" will be developed for coordination with "friendly peace-loving nations" and international bodies to support international efforts to combat terrorism.

The joint statement was accompanied by a rare press conference by Saudi Arabia's deputy crown prince, second deputy prime minister and minister of defense, 30-year-old Mohammad bin Salman Al Saud. However, he failed to give any insight on how the military cooperation aims to undertake its fight against terrorism.

Salman told reporters on 15 December that the campaign would "coordinate" efforts to fight terrorism in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt and Afghanistan but did not say how this will be carried out. "There will be international coordination with major powers and international organisations ... in terms of operations in Syria and Iraq. We can't undertake these operations without coordinating with legitimacy in this place and the international community," he added.

When asked if the new alliance will focus on just fighting IS (Daesh), Salman said the coalition would confront "any terrorist organisation that appears in front of us," including Isis.

Saudi Arabia and its Gulf Arab neighbours have been involved in a nine month warfare with Iran-allied rebels in neighbouring Yemen. A ceasefire however is set to take effect in Yemen on 15 December, alongside United Nations-backed peace talks. The joint statement on the military alliance to fight IS may be an indication of Saudi Arabia's decision to turn its attention back to pressing conflicts at the north of its borders.

IS has vowed to overthrow the monarchies of the Gulf and have launched a series of attacks on Shi'ite Muslim mosques and security forces in both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. The joint statement said the terrorism and its atrocities constitute a serious violation of human dignity and rights, especially the right to life and the right to security. It said: "Terrorism cannot be justified in any way, and hence it should be fought by all means and collaboration should be made to eliminate it."

It vowed the protect nations from "the evils of all armed groups and terrorist organisations- whatever their doctrine or title - which spread killing and corruption in the world and are designed to terrorise the innocent."
The 34 nations include:

  • Jordan;
  • United Arab Emirates;
  • Pakistan;
  • Bahrain;
  • Bangladesh;
  • Benin;
  • Turkey;
  • Chad;
  • Togo;
  • Tunisia;
  • Djibouti;
  • Senegal;
  • Sudan;
  • Sierra Leone;
  • Somalia;
  • Gabon;
  • Guinea;
  • Palestine;
  • Comoros;
  • Qatar;
  • Cote d'Ivoire;
  • Kuwait;
  • Lebanon;
  • Libya;
  • Maldives;
  • Mali;
  • Malaysia;
  • Egypt;
  • Morocco;
  • Mauritania;
  • Niger;
  • Nigeria; and
  • Yemen.


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/34-Muslim-nations-finally-get-together-set-military-alliance-fight-terrorism-1533357


Given what the Saudis are doing in Yemem, not sure if this is a good or bad thing at the moment, whether it is what they say it is, or a grab for power.  Will have to see how this one pans out.  Certainly puts a spoke in the wheel of those who contend that Daesh is Islamic and all Muslims support terror.

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Re: WAR ON ISIS: 34 Muslim NATIONS JOIN FORCES WITH MILITARY ALLIANCE TO FIGHT DAESH TERRORISM

Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:32 am

Bump.  Because it's bloody important

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:39 am

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:49 am

Bump.

So all those people who have been calling for Muslims to do something have nothing to say?   How very odd.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:25 am

So I'm guessing that those calling for Muslims to 'do something' now don't know what to say lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:25 am

Perhaps none of them are online.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:26 am

Perhaps the main one has been replying to your posts lol

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:30 am

I reported this for spamming

I fail to see how Muslim nations so late in the day to do something which they should have done something ages ago is in anyway big news.
At least the west has led the charge to do something and until these Muslim nations actually do something, then praise can be offered. At present its only talk.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:35 am

Well of course you would.  Probably the most important thing that has happened against Daesh, which turns everything you have said on its head and has taken the wind right out of your sails.  Which is why you didn't reply and why you have reported it for spamming.  What a hypocrite you are.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:39 am

Are they only interested in defending Muslims against terrorism though?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:41 am

I still think that ISIS is Islamic anyway. Being a Muslim doesn't mean you can't do anything bad to another person who is a Muslim.

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:44 am

I reported this because you are spamming and think you can do as you like
This is no big news until they do something and like Rags says who are they doing this for?
Muslims
So no hypocrisy as they have done absolutely zero, so again until they do big fat hairy deal lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:48 am

Have they actually named ISIS anyway?

When asked if the new alliance will focus on just fighting IS (Daesh), Salman said the coalition would confront "any terrorist organisation that appears in front of us," including Isis.

The report named ISIS, but Salman didn't. I can't get that link to work btw.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:51 am

Just tested the link, works for me.  In the video on the link the spokesperson is asked 'Is it just against Daesh' and he replies 'Any terrorist organisation' ie Daesh and anyone else.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:53 am

He also says 'harmed the Islamic world first and is now harming the International Community'.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:02 pm

sassy wrote:Just tested the link, works for me.  In the video on the link the spokesperson is asked 'Is it just against Daesh' and he replies 'Any terrorist organisation' ie Daesh and anyone else.

Hmmmm, he didn't actually name ISIS then. He might have a different idea of what constitutes a terrorist group.

I don't know why the link doesn't work for me. I'll see if I can find the video elsewhere.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:35 pm

Sorry Rags, but you are just being silly.  He didn't say 'not Daesh but any other terrorists' he said ALL terrorists.  Daesh's main victims have been Muslims.

Here's another link:

https://www.rt.com/news/325929-islamic-coalition-terrorism-saudi/

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:37 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I still think that ISIS is Islamic anyway. Being a Muslim doesn't mean you can't do anything bad to another person who is a Muslim.

Lol well of course it does!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:37 pm

Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia and the country’s defence minister, holds a rare press conference on Tuesday to announce the formation of a 34-state Islamic military coalition to fight terrorism. Bin Salman says the move is part of an effort by the Islamic world to show its ‘vigilance’ against organisations like Isis, and the alliance will tackle any terrorist groups ‘that appears in front of us’

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/dec/15/saudi-arabias-crown-prince-announces-military-alliance-to-fight-terrorism-video

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:38 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I still think that ISIS is Islamic anyway. Being a Muslim doesn't mean you can't do anything bad to another person who is a Muslim.

Lol well of course it does!!!!!!!!!!

Morning SM lol

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sassy wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Lol well of course it does!!!!!!!!!!

Morning SM lol


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sassy wrote:Sorry Rags, but you are just being silly.  He didn't say 'not Daesh but any other terrorists' he said ALL terrorists.  Daesh's main victims have been Muslims.

Here's another link:

https://www.rt.com/news/325929-islamic-coalition-terrorism-saudi/

It's not silly to look at what someone says properly and to not assume anything. I'm not saying that he's not including ISIS, just that he only seemed to talk about terrorist groups. It seems odd to me that he didn't spell it out more exactly.

Assuming that he does include ISIS, that still leaves the issue of whether he's only interested in protecting Muslims. If so, it's not such a grand gesture is it?

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:40 pm

So they will be combating Hamas then?
Who are classified by the US and EU as terrorists.
So like rags says, its dependent on who they deem terrorists.
I guess Israeli civillians are exceptable targets for terrorism to this consortium?

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Raggamuffin wrote:I still think that ISIS is Islamic anyway. Being a Muslim doesn't mean you can't do anything bad to another person who is a Muslim.

Lol well of course it does!!!!!!!!!!

I know you hate anyone saying that ISIS is Islamic, but that's just tough. It's not a reflection on you as a Muslim.

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Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:Sorry Rags, but you are just being silly.  He didn't say 'not Daesh but any other terrorists' he said ALL terrorists.  Daesh's main victims have been Muslims.

Here's another link:

https://www.rt.com/news/325929-islamic-coalition-terrorism-saudi/

It's not silly to look at what someone says properly and to not assume anything. I'm not saying that he's not including ISIS, just that he only seemed to talk about terrorist groups. It seems odd to me that he didn't spell it out more exactly.

Assuming that he does include ISIS, that still leaves the issue of whether he's only interested in protecting Muslims. If so, it's not such a grand gesture is it?


Read above, I have just given you a quote where he specifically says about Daesh.  Sorry, but it was very silly and pedantic.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:41 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Lol well of course it does!!!!!!!!!!

I know you hate anyone saying that ISIS is Islamic, but that's just tough. It's not a reflection on you as a Muslim.

Actually, yes it is.  It's also completely untrue.

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You cannot seperate ISIS from islam when their ideology is a literal view of islamic doctrine

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Richard The Lionheart wrote:So they will be combating Hamas then?
Who are classified by the US and EU as terrorists.
So like rags says, its dependent on who they deem terrorists.
I guess Israeli civillians are exceptable targets for terrorism to this consortium?

Some people also describe the governments of some western countries as terrorists.

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Raggamuffin wrote:
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Lol well of course it does!!!!!!!!!!

I know you hate anyone saying that ISIS is Islamic, but that's just tough. It's not a reflection on you as a Muslim.

Whats that got to do with my answer or your question?

Being a Muslim you cant go around murdering Muslims or non Muslims for that matter!


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I know you hate anyone saying that ISIS is Islamic, but that's just tough. It's not a reflection on you as a Muslim.

Actually, yes it is.  It's also completely untrue.

It's not a reflection on SM at all. I don't agree with you Sassy - I say that ISIS are Islamic. We could go round in circles re this, if you have the time or energy of course.

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Richard The Lionheart wrote:So they will be combating Hamas then?
Who are classified by the US and EU as terrorists.
So like rags says, its dependent on who they deem terrorists.
I guess Israeli civillians are exceptable targets for terrorism to this consortium?

Some people also describe the governments of some western countries as terrorists.

Indeed, so this needs to be resolved exactly who they mean and deem as all terrorists.
If they ignore groups that target civillians, then this is a complete sham and a waste of time.
I bet you any money rags, it will be ISIS and any funded shia organisations

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I know you hate anyone saying that ISIS is Islamic, but that's just tough. It's not a reflection on you as a Muslim.

Whats that got to do with my answer or your question?

Being a Muslim you cant go around murdering Muslims or non Muslims for that matter!


It has everything to do with your answer. You don't want to admit that ISIS are Islamic because you don't want to admit that one Muslim could harm or kill another Muslim. You need to wake up.


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Actually, yes it is.  It's also completely untrue.

It's not a reflection on SM at all. I don't agree with you Sassy - I say that ISIS are Islamic. We could go round in circles re this, if you have the time or energy of course.

Not really, the only people on here who REALLY know about Islam are SM and Zack.

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:44 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So they will be combating Hamas then?
Who are classified by the US and EU as terrorists.
So like rags says, its dependent on who they deem terrorists.
I guess Israeli civillians are exceptable targets for terrorism to this consortium?

Israel is in a different league

As they OCCUPIED the land forcibly.

Don't confuse the two FFS

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It's not a reflection on SM at all. I don't agree with you Sassy - I say that ISIS are Islamic. We could go round in circles re this, if you have the time or energy of course.

Not really, the only people on here who REALLY know about Islam are SM and Zack.

They're also very biased, so of course they're going to disown ISIS.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:45 pm

Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia and the country’s defence minister, holds a rare press conference on Tuesday to announce the formation of a 34-state Islamic military coalition to fight terrorism. Bin Salman says the move is part of an effort by the Islamic world to show its ‘vigilance’ against organisations like Isis, and the alliance will tackle any terrorist groups ‘that appears in front of us’

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/dec/15/saudi-arabias-crown-prince-announces-military-alliance-to-fight-terrorism-video

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Re: WAR ON ISIS: 34 Muslim NATIONS JOIN FORCES WITH MILITARY ALLIANCE TO FIGHT DAESH TERRORISM

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:46 pm

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Richard The Lionheart wrote:So they will be combating Hamas then?
Who are classified by the US and EU as terrorists.
So like rags says, its dependent on who they deem terrorists.
I guess Israeli civillians are exceptable targets for terrorism to this consortium?

Israel is in a different league

As they OCCUPIED the land forcibly.

Don't confuse the two FFS

And of course Hamas tend to target non-Muslims, so they don't count, right?

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Re: WAR ON ISIS: 34 Muslim NATIONS JOIN FORCES WITH MILITARY ALLIANCE TO FIGHT DAESH TERRORISM

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:47 pm

Well there is a problem Sexy in islam.
They view all born as Muslims.
Those who do not see themselves as Muslims can then be viewed as apostates.
What is the penalty for apostatsy in Islam?
Death.
Islam gets around murder easily so by justifying the murder of innocent people by a absurd view to class all people born Muslim


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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:47 pm

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Whats that got to do with my answer or your question?

Being a Muslim you cant go around murdering Muslims or non Muslims for that matter!


It has everything to do with your answer. You don't want to admit that ISIS are Islamic because you don't want to admit that one Muslim could harm or kill another Muslim. You need to wake up.


Thanks but im fully aware of what consists of being a follower od Islam. You do realise or maybe you don't but murdering people is not in Islam that's one of the basic teachings of Islam. So obviously they don't belong to my religion! They don't even have the Quran!

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:48 pm

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SEXY MAMA wrote:

Israel is in a different league

As they OCCUPIED the land forcibly.

Don't confuse the two FFS

And of course Hamas tend to target non-Muslims, so they don't count, right?

Of course they do. Quran doesn't just say about Muslims its non Muslims too

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Re: WAR ON ISIS: 34 Muslim NATIONS JOIN FORCES WITH MILITARY ALLIANCE TO FIGHT DAESH TERRORISM

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:49 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It has everything to do with your answer. You don't want to admit that ISIS are Islamic because you don't want to admit that one Muslim could harm or kill another Muslim. You need to wake up.


Thanks but im fully aware of what consists of being a follower od Islam. You do realise or maybe you don't but murdering people is not in Islam that's one of the basic teachings of Islam. So obviously they don't belong to my religion! They don't even have the Quran!

Nevertheless, they are Islamic, just as Michael Adebolajo is, and just as the people who murdered people on 7/7 are.

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:49 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Well there is a problem Sexy in islam.
They view all born as Muslims.
Those who do not see themselves as Muslims can then be viewed as apostates.
What is the penalty for apostatsy in Islam?
Death.
Islam gets around murder easily so by justifying the murder of innocent people by a absurd view to class all people born Muslim

Nope not death

Didge I have been over this with Smelly and Mentor!

I think you are confusing yourself with the revert concept

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:50 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So they will be combating Hamas then?
Who are classified by the US and EU as terrorists.
So like rags says, its dependent on who they deem terrorists.
I guess Israeli civillians are exceptable targets for terrorism to this consortium?

Israel is in a different league

As they OCCUPIED the land forcibly.

Don't confuse the two FFS

There you have again a Muslim being racist and justfying the murder of innocent civillians.
The land is not in occupation, as again the Olso accord views area C to be contolled by Israel.
learn the facts,m not what the racist BDS teaches you.
Again even occupation in international law does not allow for the murder of innocent civillians, but good to know you back terrorists to murder or in the time of war commit war crimes against civillians, based off a view you claim is occupation

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:50 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Thanks but im fully aware of what consists of being a follower od Islam. You do realise or maybe you don't but murdering people is not in Islam that's one of the basic teachings of Islam. So obviously they don't belong to my religion! They don't even have the Quran!

Nevertheless, they are Islamic, just as Michael Adebolajo is, and just as the people who murdered people on 7/7 are.

Of course you know better than the journalist who was kidnapped by them and was held by them for 6 months, who says they definitely weren't.

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Re: WAR ON ISIS: 34 Muslim NATIONS JOIN FORCES WITH MILITARY ALLIANCE TO FIGHT DAESH TERRORISM

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:52 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:Well there is a problem Sexy in islam.
They view all born as Muslims.
Those who do not see themselves as Muslims can then be viewed as apostates.
What is the penalty for apostatsy in Islam?
Death.
Islam gets around murder easily so by justifying the murder of innocent people by a absurd view to class all people born Muslim

Nope not death

Didge I have been over this with Smelly and Mentor!

I think you are confusing yourself with the revert concept

Not confusing anything.
The penalty is death if the person does not revert back to Islam
Islam views all people as born Muslims.
Thus anyone not Muslim would then be classified as Aspostates.
You see how easy it is for Islam to justify murder?

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:52 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Israel is in a different league

As they OCCUPIED the land forcibly.

Don't confuse the two FFS

There you have again a Muslim being racist and justfying the murder of innocent civillians.
The land is not in occupation, as again the Olso accord views area C to be contolled by Israel.
learn the facts,m not what the racist BDS teaches you.
Again even occupation in international law does not allow for the murder of innocent civillians, but good to know you back terrorists to murder or in the time of war commit war crimes against civillians, based off a view you claim is occupation

Lol how am I being racist? I just gave you an explanation

You cant just take over peoples home and land and move in and think no one will do anything about it

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:54 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
SEXY MAMA wrote:

Nope not death

Didge I have been over this with Smelly and Mentor!

I think you are confusing yourself with the revert concept

Not confusing anything.
The penalty is death if the person does not revert back to Islam
Islam views all people as born Muslims.
Thus anyone not Muslim would then be classified as Aspostates.
You see how easy it is for Islam to justify murder?

No it isn't! Apostates are not allowed the death penalty according to the Quran and hadith

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SEXY MAMA wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:

There you have again a Muslim being racist and justfying the murder of innocent civillians.
The land is not in occupation, as again the Olso accord views area C to be contolled by Israel.
learn the facts,m not what the racist BDS teaches you.
Again even occupation in international law does not allow for the murder of innocent civillians, but good to know you back terrorists to murder or in the time of war commit war crimes against civillians, based off a view you claim is occupation

Lol how am I being racist? I just gave you an explanation

You cant just take over peoples home and land and move in and think no one will do anything about it


You are justifying the murder of Israeli civillians based off a falsehood.
Even taking your incorrect view, internationl law does not allow the deliberate targeting of civillians under a view of occupation.
That is deemed as murder or in a time of war, a war crime.
Its fundemenatlly racist to view a people as valid to be killed based on them being Israeli

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:55 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

And of course Hamas tend to target non-Muslims, so they don't count, right?

Of course they do. Quran doesn't just say about Muslims its non Muslims too

So are you now saying that Hamas are not Muslims either? Are you also supporting terrorism?

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