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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:15 am

After reading Victor's post his actual problem is that he is Living in the UK among British People with British 'sensibilities' (or Lack of which is more accurate)

he should just evolve into an Australian  pirat pirat pirat

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Post by Eilzel on Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:36 am

So. Some people are hyper pissed off because they can't say blackboard or the n word among others.

Personally I think there are bigger, real problems in the world. Bitching cause you can't use extremely racist or homophobic terms or refer to a historic school item by a particular name - not real problems. Get over it.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:56 am

veya_victaous wrote:After reading Victor's post his actual problem is that he is Living in the UK among British People with British 'sensibilities' (or Lack of which is more accurate)

he should just evolve into an Australian  pirat pirat pirat

He might become a loud-mouthed thug if he did that though.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:57 am

Eilzel wrote:So. Some people are hyper pissed off because they can't say blackboard or the n word among others.

Personally I think there are bigger, real problems in the world. Bitching cause you can't use extremely racist or homophobic terms or refer to a historic school item by a particular name - not real problems. Get over it.

I can say blackboard if I want to. I don't think many schools use them these days do they? You can still buy small ones in shops though.

I wouldn't say the N word because I don't think it's very nice. That's my choice, and also there would be sharp intakes of breath all over the place if I did.

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:13 am

Eilzel wrote:So. Some people are hyper pissed off because they can't say blackboard or the n word among others.

Personally I think there are bigger, real problems in the world. Bitching cause you can't use extremely racist or homophobic terms or refer to a historic school item by a particular name - not real problems. Get over it.

Indeed. Very well said x

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:21 am

veya_victaous wrote:
gelico again wrote:

so I noticed

poof hasn't though

surely if you ban one nasty word you should ban them all

lol!

no, cause a Poof is something you put your feet on ... or magic 'Poof' and disappear 

peasant...the thing you put your feet on is a poufe

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:53 am

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Eilzel wrote:So. Some people are hyper pissed off because they can't say blackboard or the n word among others.

Personally I think there are bigger, real problems in the world. Bitching cause you can't use extremely racist or homophobic terms or refer to a historic school item by a particular name - not real problems. Get over it.

Indeed. Very well said x

agreed eil however doesnt the reaction to this Really demonstrate exactly what a world ruled by the leftists would be like..utterly humourless.....
read the OP and then THINK about it..... Rolling Eyes

it also demonstrates the other issue with PC....mission creep...

how soon if the lefties gained significant power would it be before the word (and therfore concept) of freedom was "proscribed"...not Long I would immagine.....

you lefties (and your liberalist friends) have far too high an opinion of yourselves and your "politics", and a total lack of perspective....

the same with H&S as practiced (as oposed to mandated)

and YET if someone suggests something that will tread on YOUR little world, oh dear, oh no , we cant possibly have that

as an instance and sorry for going over older ground but it is THE COMPARISON in attitude that is up for disussion NOT the argument itself.......

Guns...are strictly regualted and its hard to get permission to have one...AND QUITE RIGHTLY SO since gun deaths here by legitimate owners(thats important btw) are thankfully very few and far between, and yet

deaths and mamings becasue of sheer negligence and malice due to vehicles is a massive problem ....

Now I suggested that the same rules for vehicle ownership as gun ownership should be applied.....and oh no...we cant have that....

the left say remove guns entirely...if it saves even ONE life a year its worth it....
well I say remove vehicles from some 90% of their present owners.....THAT would save untold lives and misery....


and YES i know guns tend to be used as a weapon rather than a mere tool when killing people whereas with vehicles its "accident". BUT MOST "accidents" are in fact negligence , and in many cases "malicious negligence" and thus no better than deliberate killing......

and of course the lefties greatest argument "less guns less killings " is for some strange reason not applicable to vhicles



double standards perhaps....because one would put its foot in YOUR world....


I'm not arguing for/against guns here.....as said I FULLY agree with the laws we have here what I am doing is pointing out that the ARGUMENTS you use, as in all things are utterly one sided.....

(and of course I'm guilty of the same ...since.....IF such reasoning was applied to vehicle ownership, it wouldnt affect ME (since I "qualify" as a gun owner)) Razz

ALL the side arguments about economics, etc are merely that...side issues.....since....... as Didge is so fond of pointing out, we can "adapt"








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Post by Eilzel on Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:02 pm

I would say that cars are pretty much vital to the world we live in. Without them human ability to travel would become massively restricted. We need cars to get to work, to get out of or into the city, and to visit people. Guns provide nothing like the public neccesity of cars.

And why do you assert being PC is being without humour? Surely that is pretty limiting view of what is funny. If you can't have humour without being politically incorrect then surely that is just having a very narrow sense of humour?

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:39 pm

Eilzel wrote:I would say that cars are pretty much vital to the world we live in. Without them human ability to travel would become massively restricted. We need cars to get to work, nope you dont...not at least in cities, cities have public transport to get out of or into the city, nope...there are taxis trains and busses (and besides...you shouldnt be let out of cities... Razz ) and to visit people. Guns provide nothing like the public neccesity of cars.

that is not the gist of the argument..whether "necessary" or not is not the point....

they cause 1000's deaths and maimings....

given that "little fact" it is amusing to see the leftys squirm when faced by the prospect of "giving up their cars"   remember EIL...if it saves but ONE life its worth it....OR...does that only apply to things which dont interest you...

a classic case of the left..."i dont do that so I dont see why anyone else should"

moreover I'M not suggesting banning cars....merely making the rules as to their aquisition and use as onerous as they (rightly) are for guns....after all...if you have NO criminal record, AND can show "good reason"  AND can secure it sufficiently AND you can pass the background checks as a "suitable person" then you may have a driving licence...of course your choice of vehicle will then be restricted on "need"

see thats where your argumnts fall flat...as to "fulfilling a need in society"  well as Didge keeps intoning endlessly...you will have to adapt....it will make your world better...honestly.....


And why do you assert being PC is being without humour?


again you miss the point.....

the response on this thread proves beyond ANY shadow of doubt that the lefties and liberalists are utterly bereft of a sense of humour, or ...at least the very necessary "self deprecating humour"

I mean...come off it...I post a self evidently ridiculous statement aimed at tweaking a few nipples and BOOM ...off go the lefties
humour EIL is still alive and well   clearly however it is absent in the lefty world.........


Surely that is pretty limiting view of what is funny. If you can't have humour without being politically incorrect then surely that is just having a very narrow sense of humour?

to my horror I know well a fair number of "lefties".......all , without exception, have NO sense of humour

they dont do "non PC"

they dont do "grim humour"  (like the sort that get people through great horrors)

they dont do almost any sort of humour tbf....unless it is silly kiddie humour.

and god forbid "pranking" or practical jokes"   thats bullying dontcha know....even when the target is the biggest prankster of all...... (yes I knw there are and should be limits to that but hell...we ARE all "grown ups" aint we ?

or has society been successfully infantilised by "leftyism"?

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Post by Eilzel on Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:48 pm

You obviously know some pretty dull people who happen to be lefties, perhaps they've clouded your judgment ;-)

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:55 pm

Eilzel wrote:You obviously know some pretty dull people who happen to be lefties, perhaps they've clouded your judgment ;-)

nah Eil...I think its part of the condition "leftyism" dunno if its cureable though.....


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Post by Eilzel on Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:29 pm

Ha, well its not the case with me and lefties I know. Or maybe what you are referring to as a 'leftie' isn't the same as what I would.

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:34 pm

controlling what people think is impossible until you end up with zombies, which explains where the world is going today..

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Post by eddie on Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:08 pm

Eilzel wrote:I would say that cars are pretty much vital to the world we live in. Without them human ability to travel would become massively restricted. We need cars to get to work, to get out of or into the city, and to visit people. Guns provide nothing like the public neccesity of cars.

And why do you assert being PC is being without humour? Surely that is pretty limiting view of what is funny. If you can't have humour without being politically incorrect then surely that is just having a very narrow sense of humour?

Apart from child porn and abuse, there's practically nothing I wouldn't laugh at if its said humorously and without malice.

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:38 pm

Eilzel wrote:Ha, well its not the case with me and lefties I know. Or maybe what you are referring to as a 'leftie' isn't the same as what I would.

Yeah doesn't sound like the Left wing down here...
stereotyped as Music loving often drug taking party people Suspect

it is Right wingers that always want to close pubs early and ban anything fun.


I think Victor maybe has some special country bumpkin lefties geek

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:04 pm

so if the queers and queer aussies and mussies suddenly weren't allowed to call Christians or complain about the bible, would that still be good from a pc point of view...

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:13 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Ha, well its not the case with me and lefties I know. Or maybe what you are referring to as a 'leftie' isn't the same as what I would.

Yeah doesn't sound like the Left wing down here...
stereotyped as Music loving often drug taking party people Suspect


yeah, typical of the lefties...."we wanna do whatever we want ...regardless of the immense social cost, everyone else can pay for that...lets get stoned, lets get high and wreck somewhere, lets encourage law breaking and criminality.....

as to music...seriously?????


it is Right wingers that always want to close pubs early and ban anything fun.

erm no.....

but controls over pubs is needed to keep the lefties in line and actually working...for those few who actually do.....



I think Victor maybe has some special country bumpkin lefties geek

lefties are only happy when making everone else miserable but then isnt that the definition of "leftism"........ the equal sharing of misery???

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:50 pm

Typical LW supporting local artists and culture by being involved in the local community and partaking in social events.. typical LW that believe in Personal Responsibility,  freedoms and individuality as opposed to the RW conform with blind faith to the corpocracy

As opposed to Rightwing-ism Or Fascism as it is properly known where it is all about putting the misery on everyone but your self, Particularly if they are weaker than you.
The RW mantra of share costs but keep all the profit personal.

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:58 pm

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:so if the queers and queer aussies and mussies suddenly weren't allowed to call Christians or complain about the bible, would that still be good from  a pc point of view...

HUH?
why would they become british fools? with a dumb ass interpretation of what PC is confused confused confused


Why would we make special rule for Christians, No other group is protected from Fair Criticism, I know you'd love a rule where people couldn't give valid Criticisms of your cult but that is as stupid as saying people cant give valid Criticism of Islam.

No!! what you post is Rubbish, NOT Valid Criticisms and is Nothing But Hypocrisy coming form anyone claiming to believe the bible.

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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:01 am

veya_victaous wrote:Typical LW supporting local artists and culture by being involved in the local community and partaking in social events..

where?? over your way perhaps over here nah...lazy layabouts that expect everyone else to look after them, particularly when "stoned"

typical LW that believe in Personal Responsibility,  freedoms and individuality

Not here they dont....restrict freedoms dictate actions and enforce "their code", encourage "mediocracy" and promote failure as equal to success....

as opposed to the RW conform with blind faith to the corpocracy


and here we have the typical stupidity of the left ...who conflate the political R/W with the "fiscal" r/w


As opposed to Rightwing-ism Or Fascism (fascism is to R/W what stalinism is to L/W or have you forgotten that???) as it is properly known where it is all about putting the misery on everyone but your self, Particularly if they are weaker than you.
The RW mantra of share costs but keep all the profit personal.

thing is yah lazy aussie layabout...Im fiscally L/W and politically R/W......the only sensible stance....


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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:04 am

how often do you see private hire cars here with

"ADVANCED BOOKINGS ONLY"

on the side

FFS its ADVANCE not ADVANCED

the result of leftyism.....

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Post by Eilzel on Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:05 am

Ok victor, I know you don't consider me a layabout, but I am leftie. Many people I know are. How do you square this fact with your stubborn perception of what leftism is? Wink

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:13 am

LOL
You accused me of working for the man in the push the button thread (I actually work in the public sector but am a private contractor... so either extreme is true)

and now you are blaming lefties for language change
you being to sound like a grumpy grandpa meme
lol!


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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:19 am

I think the politically Left wing but economically centrist is best
there is elements of capitalism that work best for developing 'unknown' low impact industries but it is the an evil thing when talking about profiteering from necessities.

Although I will add NO ONE in the LW here has made anything like some of the stupid suggestion I have heard from that new labor leader. British politics is weird but i think a lot of the British op-ions and mindsets on here are weird so i guess you lot vote for them 

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:27 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Ha, well its not the case with me and lefties I know. Or maybe what you are referring to as a 'leftie' isn't the same as what I would.

Yeah doesn't sound like the Left wing down here...
stereotyped as Music loving often drug taking party people Suspect

it is Right wingers that always want to close pubs early and ban anything fun.


I think Victor maybe has some special country bumpkin lefties geek

Even right wingers can love music you know.

You sound as if you approve of taking drugs. Is that a leftie thing?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:30 am

veya_victaous wrote:Typical LW supporting local artists and culture by being involved in the local community and partaking in social events.. typical LW that believe in Personal Responsibility,  freedoms and individuality as opposed to the RW conform with blind faith to the corpocracy

As opposed to Rightwing-ism Or Fascism as it is properly known where it is all about putting the misery on everyone but your self, Particularly if they are weaker than you.
The RW mantra of share costs but keep all the profit personal.

I would say that lefties do not believe in personal responsibility or freedom actually. They're fond of the nanny State, and think that the State should be responsible for everything, and blamed for everything that goes wrong in their lives. As for freedom, well they don't like people being free to make loads of dosh based on their own hard work. They think those people should give that money they earned away to those who didn't lift a finger.

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Post by eddie on Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:33 am

I actually struggle to understand why anyone would think that either extreme, of left and right, is better than the other?

Extremes are never good.

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veya_victaous wrote:
heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:so if the queers and queer aussies and mussies suddenly weren't allowed to call Christians or complain about the bible, would that still be good from  a pc point of view...

HUH?
why would they become british fools? with a dumb ass interpretation of what PC is confused confused confused


Why would we make special rule for Christians, No other group is protected from Fair Criticism, I know you'd love a rule where people couldn't give valid Criticisms of your cult but that is as stupid as saying people cant give valid Criticism of Islam.

No!! what you post is Rubbish, NOT Valid Criticisms and is Nothing But Hypocrisy coming form anyone claiming to believe the bible.
why should we make special rules for queers or aussie fake queers, why should we make special rules for anyone..
if it's not pc to call someone it should not be pc to call anyone so stop calling Christians and the bible and ban all jokes about them as hate crimes...

but i forget queers and weirdo's are a protected species same as mussies...

again you don't want equal;ity you want your own way that is the queers and mussie manifesto...

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Eilzel wrote:Ok victor, I know you don't consider me a layabout, but I am leftie. Many people I know are. How do you square this fact with your stubborn perception of what leftism is? Wink

yeah, but you are a teacher and as such have not done a days "work" as such in your life.... Razz

get out and hump sacks and hods and planks on a building site for a few months

christ on a bike YOU think "hard work" is sitting in a lecture theatre for a few hours a day....

spend a few months rebuilding land rovers

try working on a "small hill farm" handling animals all day...


it would kill you..... Razz Razz Razz

I've done both "intellectually challenging" work AND physically demanding work.....I'll tell you which one is "Hard work"

oh and dont talk about "stress" with the exception perhaps of the emergency services and military (where lives are on the line) Stess doesnt exist....It is manufactured by the person suffering it....Its really quite simple...if your boss is an arse ....either get another job OR TELL him he's an arse.....If you cant "hack it" without getting all psycho about it...then perhaps that job isnt for you....


last job I had I was taken on because I was "arrogant " enough in interview to tell him that out of the six applicants he should hire me ...because I was "better" than those others....

I was tasked with "turning round" a demoralised and failing service department

after a few weeks the boss wanted to know just what the hell i was up to.....I reminded him WHY he had hired me and for what reason....so chill and let me do it...or get someone else...but dont EVER think you can throw your weight around with me.....

6 months down the line I had done what I had promised.....(people skills you see) at no additional costs, but neither the company owner nor my "line manager" EVER ....dared to treat me like an "underling" In fact the owner/ceo? regularly had me come into board meetings to give my POV and gain insight into things.....

I refused promotion to a managers position , becasue that would have meant "flying a desk" rather than being a hands on engineer (which is what I do best) SO they gave me the title of chief engineer and paid me a managers salary...... Laughing

but stress...nah....never.....

but you know its strange.....I never ever considered myself a "team player", I "dont do teams" I do not have enough faith in my fellow humans.....and yet....i ran a team of 8 engineers and 2 "post design engineers" for 3 years untill I was injured out of action.......

I suppose a lot was down to the fact I was "on the side" of the other generally much younger engineers

there was a lot of driving involved... flu season starts

one of the guys comes in clearly suffering .....I sent him home before he even got in the door.....

1 he wasnt FIT to drive all day
2 i didnt want all the other members of the dept down with it at the same time...


another comes to me says Ive had a call...missus has just been taken to hospital ...having the baby ...early....

my answer.......why are YOU still HERE????? phone me later with news......, now get your ass down there......

so i suppose I'm not entirely rotten.....

Rolling Eyes

However......that does not mean I agree with lefty political principles nor does it mean that my view of lefties will change....

YOU may not be a layabout.....but a very large proportion are......and expect to take take take and consider the world and its dog owe them a living.....











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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:23 am

victorismyhero wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Ok victor, I know you don't consider me a layabout, but I am leftie. Many people I know are. How do you square this fact with your stubborn perception of what leftism is? Wink

yeah, but you are a teacher  and as such have not done a days "work" as such in your life.... Razz

get out and hump sacks and hods and planks on a building site for a few months

christ on a bike YOU think "hard work" is sitting in a lecture theatre for a few hours a day....

spend a few months rebuilding land rovers

try working on a "small hill farm" handling animals all day...


it would kill you..... Razz  Razz  Razz

I've done both "intellectually challenging" work AND physically demanding work.....I'll tell you which one is "Hard work"

oh and dont talk about "stress" with the exception perhaps of the emergency services and military (where lives are on the line) Stess doesnt exist....It is manufactured by the person suffering it....Its really quite simple...if your boss is an arse ....either get another job OR TELL him he's an arse.....If you cant "hack it" without getting all psycho about it...then perhaps that job isnt for you....


last job I had I was taken on because I was "arrogant " enough in interview to tell him that out of the six applicants he should hire me ...because I was "better" than those others....

I was tasked with "turning round" a demoralised and failing service department

after a few weeks the boss wanted to know just what the hell i was up to.....I reminded him WHY he had hired me and for what reason....so chill and let me do it...or get someone else...but dont EVER think you can throw your weight around with me.....

6 months down the line I had done what I had promised.....(people skills you see) at no additional costs, but neither the company owner nor my "line manager" EVER ....dared to treat me like an "underling"   In fact the owner/ceo? regularly had me come into board meetings to give my POV and gain insight into things.....

I refused promotion to a managers position , becasue that would have meant "flying a desk" rather than being a hands on engineer (which is what I do best) SO they gave me the title of chief engineer and paid me a managers salary...... Laughing

but stress...nah....never.....

but you know its strange.....I never ever considered myself a "team player", I "dont do teams" I do not have enough faith in my fellow humans.....and yet....i ran a team of 8 engineers and 2 "post design engineers"  for 3 years untill I was injured out of action.......

I suppose a lot was down to the fact I was "on the side" of the other generally much younger engineers

there was a lot of driving involved... flu season starts

one of the guys comes in clearly suffering .....I sent him home before he even got in the door.....

1 he wasnt FIT to drive all day
2 i didnt want all the other members of the dept down with it at the same time...


another comes to me says Ive had a call...missus has just been taken to hospital ...having the baby ...early....

my answer.......why are YOU still HERE????? phone me later with news......, now get your ass down there......

so i suppose I'm not entirely rotten.....

Rolling Eyes

However......that does not mean I agree with lefty political principles nor does it mean that my view of lefties will change....

YOU may not be a layabout.....but a very large proportion are......and expect to take take take and consider the world and its dog owe them a living.....










I think he has humped a few "sacks" in his time....lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:24 am

Oooh, I like that post from Victor.

He's right about stress - stress is a response to a stressor - or a potential stressor anyway. It's how you react to situations which counts.

Also, people should try working in retail at some stage.

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Post by Eilzel on Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:26 am

Haha, never for a moment thought you were all rotten victor, just that you have a skewed and unshakable view of what you see as 'lefties'.

And I'll have you know for many years I did nothing but manual work Wink

I agree many people are lazy and do take all the time. RWers and LWers at that. Those people are all selfishness and woe is me. But I don't think most real Left Wing thinkers are what you say they are- not humourless, not lazy. That's just a cartoon caricature you have created based on those you know.

Wanting to tackle bigotry and have a functioning welfare system are not hallmarks of dull layabouts.




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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:32 am

Eilzel wrote:Haha, never for a moment thought you were all rotten victor, just that you have a skewed and unshakable view of what you see as 'lefties'.

And I'll have you know for many years I did nothing but manual work Wink

I agree many people are lazy and do take all the time. RWers and LWers at that. Those people are all selfishness and woe is me. But I don't think most real Left Wing thinkers are what you say they are- not humourless, not lazy. That's just a cartoon caricature you have created based on those you know.

Wanting to tackle bigotry and have a functioning welfare system are not hallmarks of dull layabouts.



I guess a lot of people who want a good welfare system are the ones who use it though, and that would include those who have no intention of working, or who don't even try to overcome their ailments.

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Post by eddie on Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:11 pm

I think it's unfair to keep labelling people.
It just makes for cheap point-scoring and muddles real debate.

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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:52 pm

Eilzel wrote:Haha, never for a moment thought you were all rotten victor, just that you have a skewed and unshakable view of what you see as 'lefties'.

And I'll have you know for many years I did nothing but manual work Wink

I agree many people are lazy and do take all the time. RWers and LWers at that. Those people are all selfishness and woe is me. But I don't think most real Left Wing thinkers are what you say they are- not humourless, not lazy. That's just a cartoon caricature you have created based on those you know.

Wanting to tackle bigotry and have a functioning welfare system are not hallmarks of dull layabouts.





true EIL...BUT if the leftie luvvies are not VERY careful... you will have neither agreeable situations

instead you will have econnmic collapse as the walfare system implodes, as the school system collapses under the strain, and as housing provison totally disintegrates
which will lead to massive discontent and a reaction from people in general....

See you all act like I give a shit about the colour.ethnicity or origin of people...I truely dont.....since if it suits me I can just ignore em.....If they in anyway "impose" on me they will get short shrift, like told to F**k off outta my face. But thats not happened...yet....beleive me you will know when it does (though to be fair the ONLY (4) times I have been "ripped off" in business dealings its been by one particular group)

however...I do think you lefties are living a dream blind to consequences and all too willing to blame the ineviatble results upon the R/W should it go pearshaped, the possibility of which you refuse to admit or at best pretend is so low as to be negligible....


I mean what can go wrong....


well...we could end up with high 10's of 1000 homeless rather than the few 1000 we have at present

your answer build, seize empty properties...

yep ok...

but that takes money....

and how will these people afford to live in this accomodation???

so you find the money...

where from....

shall we take it off the pensioners...rob the pension fund perhaps...

or what.....

shall we UP taxes...on whom....?

the rich??

so they move their money/business and themselves elsewhere...

hmmmmm....clever move that.....

or is it a case of "oh it will be ok....I hope"

schools already cant cope with the problems of multiple languages....

and teachers are leaving in droves.....in part becasue of the schools under pressure....



likely i will be content in my box by the time reality bites you in the ass.....so really I dont care.....



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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:14 pm

if true pc actually ever happens no one will be allowed to say anything in fear of prosecution....


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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:56 pm

Good posting victor!


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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:45 am

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:so if the queers and queer aussies and mussies suddenly weren't allowed to call Christians or complain about the bible, would that still be good from  a pc point of view...

HUH?
why would they become british fools? with a dumb ass interpretation of what PC is confused confused confused


Why would we make special rule for Christians, No other group is protected from Fair Criticism, I know you'd love a rule where people couldn't give valid Criticisms of your cult but that is as stupid as saying people cant give valid Criticism of Islam.

No!! what you post is Rubbish, NOT Valid Criticisms and is Nothing But Hypocrisy coming form anyone claiming to believe the bible.
why should we make special rules for queers or aussie fake queers, why should we make special rules for anyone..
if it's not pc to call someone it should not be pc to call anyone so stop calling Christians and the bible and ban all jokes about them as hate crimes...

but i forget queers and weirdo's are a protected species same as mussies...

again you don't want equal;ity you want your own way that is the queers and mussie manifesto...

you see we don't have special rules for others the same applies to everyone.. it has to be 'FAIR and FOUNDED Criticisms' with they are of Christianity and when they are of Islam they are acceptable too.

the ignorant lies you spout are ignorant lies not 'FAIR and FOUNDED Criticisms' that is why you have a problem.

it is not 'not PC' it is that you are LYING. you can use the 'truth' as a defense but you are not speaking the truth so you personally cant

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