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Post by feelthelove on Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:47 pm



Jeremy Corbyn has suffered a major blow to his authority after a bid by the Labour leadership to press for a vote on the renewal of the Trident nuclear programme was overwhelmingly rejected at the party’s conference.

Hours after the opening of the event in Brighton, Britain’s largest trade unions and the party membership spurned a call for the conference to hold a debate and a vote on Wednesday about whether Britain should renew Trident.

In a severe embarrassment to Corbyn, who won the support of the main trade unions in the leadership contest, the call for a debate on Trident was supported by just 0.16% of the trade union vote. The support among constituency Labour parties was little higher at 7.1%.

Shadow cabinet members, who had earlier welcomed a signal by Corbyn that he would allow a free vote on Trident, were scathing about the new leader’s conference debut. “Chaos and confusion rule the day,” said one frontbencher.

Another senior figure said: “Delegates did not feel they wanted the party to have to debate such a divisive issue. Common sense has prevailed.”

John Woodcock, the Labour MP for Barrow and Furness, where replacement Trident submarines would be built, welcomed the result. Woodcock, who backed Liz Kendall in the leadership contest, said: “It is good that Labour members have rejected the CND left’s plan to prioritise returning the party to the days of 1980s unilateral nuclear disarmament. This is a welcome sign that many rank-and-file Labour supporters want to keep us focused on the immediate concerns of the public rather than re-running old battles that risk splitting Labour apart.”

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/27/corbyn-trident-vote-rejected-labour-party-conference

........"a severe embarrassment to Corbyn" and this is an article from the Guardian. Oh dear

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suffers blow as Trident vote rejected at conference

Post by sassy on Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:51 pm

Obviously you don't have a clue how the Labour Conference works.  It was one of the subjects up for discussion and many would have liked it discussed.  However, the delegates (that is ordinary Labour Party members) have to chose those subjects to be discussed from a list, in order of preference, because there isn't time for them all.  They put Trident down the list and it will be debated at a later date.   Love people who pontificate from a stand of fuck all knowledge.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suffers blow as Trident vote rejected at conference

Post by feelthelove on Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:07 pm

Jeremy Corbyn will avoid a divisive vote on the Labour party’s policy on Britain’s nuclear deterrent at its conference this week after major unions said they would block the new leader’s attempts to adopt an anti-Trident stance.

Labour party delegates were expected to vote on whether to renew Trident nuclear weapons or scrap them as party policy on 30 September, but the motion failed to win the support needed from activists in a ballot selecting which topics the party will debate at its conference in Brighton.  

It will be a relief for Mr Corbyn, avoiding an expected frontbench split on a crucial policy within his first month as leader, but others have warned that the issue will come back to haunt the party at a later date and advised getting it out of the way early on.

It came after Len McCluskey, leader of the biggest Labour-affiliated union Unite, said it would vote to renew Trident.

The Government is expected to bring the issue of renewal next year, and speaking this morning Mr Corbyn said he was hoping to persuade his shadow cabinet to join the SNP in voting for Trident to be scrapped.

Another contentious issue that will not be debated this week is Britain’s role in ending the conflict in Syria.

The eight areas of policy to be debated on by delegates this week will be austerity, employment rights, housing, the BBC licence fee, the NHS and the refugee crisis.

Mr Corbyn is opposed to the Government’s hopes of launching air strikes against Isis targets in the north of the country, but David Cameron is hopeful of winning support from enough Labour MPs to outweigh an anticipated 30 Tory MPs who are opposed to military intervention in Syria.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-loses-the-battle-on-trident-a6669266.html

The Independent's view......seems that the delegates chose to avoid the two single most contentious issues.  Seriously, the BBC licence fee over Syria and Trident????  

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suffers blow as Trident vote rejected at conference

Post by sassy on Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:18 pm

You know what FTL, your post just showed that I was right.  Your continuing posts show something else all together.  When you started all these not just anti Corbyn, but simpering, vindictive and totally ignorant posts about him, parroting the press who are in the pockets of Cameron and Co, it was probably to have a go at me yet again, because you just can't help yourself.  In the process you forgot you have a friend that supports him and you were showing her no respect at all, not by the information you were posting, but by your snidey little posts about people who voted for him etc.   Is that because you don't care, or maybe you don't want her life to be better, you like playing Lady Bountiful and throwing your largesse around, having her beholden to you.

You remind me of those toffee apples at the fairground.  Thousands of people walk past and get taken in by the shiny toffee and think, scrumptious!  And then one poor sod buys one, and first of all the toffee is overcooked, bitter and oversweet.  Then they get to the apple and instead of being sharp and crispy, it's sour and soggy.  Strikes me that's the perfect metaphor for you. 

Every time you have come back on here it's been for one purpose.  You would think that a grown women would have got over it by now and moved on, the rest of us have, but your sour, manipulative little soul simply cannot bear for that to happen.  You are full of piss and vinegar as the saying goes and I don't suppose you know how to change.

Best of luck, holding all that hatred in your soul much be very uncomfortable.


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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suffers blow as Trident vote rejected at conference

Post by Guest on Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:43 pm

The fact is Labour is split badly and I cannot see Corben lasting a month at this rate, maybe 3 at best. There is just too much division and no amount of claptrap to say otherwise will fix that. For many to vote against Trident being scrapped is a huge vote againt a major policy of Corben. That is not having the best of starts.

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Post by sassy on Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:51 pm

You are an idiot, THERE HASN'T BEEN A VOTE ABOUT TRIDENT, because the delegates didn't want to discuss it at this point, and the delegates put the order of subject to be discussed.   In fact our delegates said the reason for that is that it is too important an issue to discuss when JC has only been leader for 2 weeks and they want inter CLP talks before any decisions are made.

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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:01 pm

Look no matter how much you dress it up your Commie Corben is fighting a civil war within Labour where many are against his plan to drop trident. Vote or not many have said they would block it, so you are just being pedantic Sassy.
Best you wake up to the reality this loony lefty is not going to last long, which is a shame, as i would prefer he did. Thus ensuring Labour will utterly fail at the next election

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Post by sassy on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:10 pm

Not being in least pedantic, thems the facts and thats the way the Labour Party Conference works.  What the delegates want, the delegates get.  You're a no-nowt pontificating about things as you read them in the Tory press, without the least idea of what actually happens.

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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:11 pm

Its many left wing press also dishing him, this is why you are clueless sassy.

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Post by sassy on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:13 pm

What LW press, do tell.  My, it's like the Waltons again, only singular, night didge, oh night Didge, and again, night didge, bless.

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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:16 pm

wow ha ha ha Stassi is really wound up.
Just read the huffington post for example, they have been as seen laying intop him.
Now I will leave yoiu to sulk

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Post by sassy on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:18 pm

Why would I sulk when you look a prat for thinking you know things you don't.  Tell you what Didge, you get an A+ for self delusion.  Huff Post is ok, but LW it aint.

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Post by feelthelove on Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:23 am

Cuchulain wrote:Look no matter how much you dress it up your Commie Corben is fighting a civil war within Labour where many are against his plan to drop trident. Vote or not many have said they would block it, so you are just being pedantic Sassy.
Best you wake up to the reality this loony lefty is not going to last long, which is a shame, as i would prefer he did. Thus ensuring Labour will utterly fail at the next election

Exactly Didge, the papers left and right are full of news of Labour's internal "challenges".  If they can't unite themselves how can they expect to unite the electorate?

And again why would the delegates choose to avoid the two single most contentious issues.  The BBC licence fee over Syria and Trident????  Honestly??!!  

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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:46 am

feelthelove wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:Look no matter how much you dress it up your Commie Corben is fighting a civil war within Labour where many are against his plan to drop trident. Vote or not many have said they would block it, so you are just being pedantic Sassy.
Best you wake up to the reality this loony lefty is not going to last long, which is a shame, as i would prefer he did. Thus ensuring Labour will utterly fail at the next election

Exactly Didge, the papers left and right are full of news of Labour's internal "challenges".  If they can't unite themselves how can they expect to unite the electorate?

And again why would the delegates choose to avoid the two single most contentious issues.  The BBC licence fee over Syria and Trident????  Honestly??!!  

Morning FTL.....x

In todays problomatic world with many conflicts of which there is threats to the UK its a no brainer ro have Trident.
This is a good indication how very little support Corben actually has no certain policies.
Like I say many have vowed to black his move on this, which is telling, no matter how some here try to dress this commie up.

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