Peter Mandelson Says Labour Has 'Exchanged One Loser For Even Worse One' But Warns Against Early Jeremy Corbyn Coup

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Peter Mandelson Says Labour Has 'Exchanged One Loser For Even Worse One' But Warns Against Early Jeremy Corbyn Coup

Post by feelthelove on Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:36 pm



Peter Mandelson has urged fellow Labour moderates to ditch the “New Labour" and "Blairite" tags as he warns Jeremy Corbyn will not be ousted in the early days of his leadership.

The Guardian today publishes extracts from a "private paper circulated to political associates" that renews his criticism of Mr Corbyn at the helm, arguing the party is "exchanging one loser (Ed Miliband) for an even worse one".

However, the former Cabinet minister and spin doctor cautions against an early coup, pointing to a "long haul" where the veteran left-winger tanks in the polls before the right of the party attempts to strike.

The piece also acknowledges the failings of the recent past and the Blair v Brown wars, which are now "redundant"

Some Labour moderates have decided to join Corbyn's top team, going against colleagues, sensing the party can exploit the buzz around the Islington MP.

In the key passage, Lord Mandelson says: “In choosing Corbyn instead of Ed Miliband, the general public now feel we are just putting two fingers up to them, exchanging one loser for an even worse one. We cannot be elected with Corbyn as leader.

“Nobody will replace him, though, until he demonstrates to the party his unelectability at the polls. In this sense, the public will decide Labour’s future and it would be wrong to try and force this issue from within before the public have moved to a clear verdict.”

And he suggests an early putsch would be counter-productive: “We need to acknowledge that those who supported him have invested a lot personally in Corbyn, we are not going to convince them overnight they were wrong and before then they will provide an army to draw on as they become absorbed into constituency parties.

“We are in for a long haul during which time the atmosphere in the party will become increasingly acrimonious at branch and constituency levels.”

On the right of the party learning lessons from the last five years, he says: “The old labels, totems and divisions have no use anymore; they are damaging and counter-productive.

“‘New Labour’, Blairites, Brownites – all these labels are redundant. They prevent us reaching out in the party and building essential new bridges. If we want people to listen to us, we must no longer look as if we are continuing past fights.

“The last five years’ intellectual sterility has left Labour floundering before an electorate that wanted to vote against the Tories but did not feel they were being offered a workable alternative.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/25/peter-mandelson-jeremy-corbyn-coup_n_8194306.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics

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Re: Peter Mandelson Says Labour Has 'Exchanged One Loser For Even Worse One' But Warns Against Early Jeremy Corbyn Coup

Post by Guest on Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:44 pm

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Peter Mandelson has urged fellow Labour moderates to ditch the “New Labour" and "Blairite" tags as he warns Jeremy Corbyn will not be ousted in the early days of his leadership.

The Guardian today publishes extracts from a "private paper circulated to political associates" that renews his criticism of Mr Corbyn at the helm, arguing the party is "exchanging one loser (Ed Miliband) for an even worse one".

However, the former Cabinet minister and spin doctor cautions against an early coup, pointing to a "long haul" where the veteran left-winger tanks in the polls before the right of the party attempts to strike.

The piece also acknowledges the failings of the recent past and the Blair v Brown wars, which are now "redundant"

Some Labour moderates have decided to join Corbyn's top team, going against colleagues, sensing the party can exploit the buzz around the Islington MP.

In the key passage, Lord Mandelson says: “In choosing Corbyn instead of Ed Miliband, the general public now feel we are just putting two fingers up to them, exchanging one loser for an even worse one. We cannot be elected with Corbyn as leader.

“Nobody will replace him, though, until he demonstrates to the party his unelectability at the polls. In this sense, the public will decide Labour’s future and it would be wrong to try and force this issue from within before the public have moved to a clear verdict.”

And he suggests an early putsch would be counter-productive: “We need to acknowledge that those who supported him have invested a lot personally in Corbyn, we are not going to convince them overnight they were wrong and before then they will provide an army to draw on as they become absorbed into constituency parties.

“We are in for a long haul during which time the atmosphere in the party will become increasingly acrimonious at branch and constituency levels.”

On the right of the party learning lessons from the last five years, he says: “The old labels, totems and divisions have no use anymore; they are damaging and counter-productive.

“‘New Labour’, Blairites, Brownites – all these labels are redundant. They prevent us reaching out in the party and building essential new bridges. If we want people to listen to us, we must no longer look as if we are continuing past fights.

“The last five years’ intellectual sterility has left Labour floundering before an electorate that wanted to vote against the Tories but did not feel they were being offered a workable alternative.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/25/peter-mandelson-jeremy-corbyn-coup_n_8194306.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics

Good afternoon FTL.

I wondered if you saw my post on the Harman tells Corbyn thread.....about women.I'd be interested to her your comments.

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Re: Peter Mandelson Says Labour Has 'Exchanged One Loser For Even Worse One' But Warns Against Early Jeremy Corbyn Coup

Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:10 pm

"...In the key passage, Lord Mandelson says: “In choosing Corbyn instead of Ed Miliband, the general public now feel we are just putting two fingers up to them, exchanging one loser for an even worse one. We cannot be elected with Corbyn as leader..."


They didn't choose Corbyn over miliband... miliband was not in the running!

He resigned after labours crushing defeat in the election earlier this year!!!

And the public are well aware that labour have been sticking two fingers up at them for a very long time... which is the reason labour are unelectable... and all the while they stick with the same pro mass immigration and pro EU policies then it doesn't matter who they put as leader!


Labour have betrayed so many of their core voters by following their agenda over the democratic will of the electorate for so long that frankly I find it completely laughable for some of the lefties to now be waffling on about how labour are now 'democratic' after their totally insular leader vote, where hardly any of the remaining labour MPs actually support the resulting winner, and how they are supposedly only now willing to have discussions on issues rather than just plough on with their own agenda regardless of the wishes of the British public!!!


Bunch of idiots!!!



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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:45 pm



lol!

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