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Liberal Imploding, Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull to resign from Cabinet for gay marriage comments

Post by veya_victaous on Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:03 am

http://www.news.com.au/national/sa-senator-cory-bernardi-tells-communications-minister-malcolm-turnbull-to-resign-from-cabinet-for-gay-marriage-comments/story-fncynjr2-1226784458607

On Monday South Australian Senator Cory Bernardi called on senior Liberal Malcolm Turnbull to resign from his frontbench position because Mr Turnbull - the Communications Minister and former party leader - said the Coalition should allow a conscience vote on the issue.

Senator Bernardi said the longstanding policy was that "marriage is between a man and a woman".

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Re: Liberal Imploding, Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull to resign from Cabinet for gay marriage comments

Post by veya_victaous on Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:09 am

this is Awesome if it is True
Malcom is the most popular liberal (and one of the most popular pollies) he definitly did step out of line with tony abbot the other day regarding gay marriage.

a little bit of background
Abbott only beat Turnbull for the leadership of the Liberal party by 1 vote. Abbott just managed to win the election, but Turnbull probably would have romped it in. Turnbull is the most middle ground pollie we have had in years.

He could be a man with a solution (he is self made millionaire before entering politics) he is known for his economic credentials and realistic green policies.  when he announced he was planning to enter politics both parties courted him. there might be some light after the darkness of Abbott (like sending us back to the dark ages darkness).

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:16 am

For a guy with his credentials and background it seems a strange thing for him to say and puts his politicall career on the line.
Wonder how Abbot will respond on that?

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:18 am

I think he is being call on to resign? it could just be papers jumping at off hand comments. Turnbull is also known for making quick comments.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:23 am

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/pm-wont-weigh-in-on-gay-marriage-spat/story-e6frfku9-1226784773362

no looks like tony is staying out of it....


PRIME Minister Tony Abbott has declined to take sides as some of his colleagues spar over legalising same-sex marriage.
Outspoken Liberal backbencher Cory Bernardi has called for Malcolm Turnbull's sacking after the cabinet minister publicly supported changes to the Marriage Act.

Senator Bernardi argued there was no room for ministers to talk up personal views that differed from party policy.

Mr Abbott wasn't buying into the argument when quizzed about the senator's comments on Tuesday.

"I think on a subject such as this, there is a certain leeway extended to people," he said in his northern Sydney electorate, adding the Liberal Party was a broad church of views.

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:26 am

veya_victaous wrote:I think he is being call on to resign? it could just be papers jumping at off hand comments. Turnbull is also known for making quick comments.

True. Some politicians just open their gobs and it trots out and then they find that it can't be put back again.

Maybe we'll get the 'I was misquoted' or the 'out of context' routine being pushed out as per usual lol
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Re: Liberal Imploding, Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull to resign from Cabinet for gay marriage comments

Post by Cantankerous on Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:52 am

veya_victaous wrote:http://www.news.com.au/national/sa-senator-cory-bernardi-tells-communications-minister-malcolm-turnbull-to-resign-from-cabinet-for-gay-marriage-comments/story-fncynjr2-1226784458607

On Monday South Australian Senator Cory Bernardi called on senior Liberal Malcolm Turnbull to resign from his frontbench position because Mr Turnbull - the Communications Minister and former party leader - said the Coalition should allow a conscience vote on the issue.

Senator Bernardi said the longstanding policy was that "marriage is between a man and a woman".
shouldn't it be a matter of conscience?
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Re: Liberal Imploding, Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull to resign from Cabinet for gay marriage comments

Post by veya_victaous on Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:05 am

@cantank
yeah but it is up to the party to decide if it will punish memebers that vote other than the parties wishes, a conscience vote means that the parties have said 'no one will get in trouble just vote what you think is right' Labor have done this for Gay marriage but the Liberals refuse to.

@irn bru
yeah excpet I think Turnbull does it on purpose, cause it normally makes him look like a reasonable human being, while making politics in general look foolish.
He puts his foot in by saying things like 'we should work together' and ocassionally agreeing with other parties when they have the right idea. or just saying the obvious sensible thing, when the party line is some crazy ideological bullcrap.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:20 am

The other day Communications minister Malcolm Turnbull expressed his support for marriage equality and suggested that the Coalition would consider a conscience vote on the matter rather than ruling along party lines. It was a nice suggestion, and certainly deflected attention away from the fact that the National Broadband Scheme for which he was responsible would come nowhere near the operational deadline, connection speed or budget that he'd previously declared it would.

Tanya Plibersek, Labor's deputy leader and a woman who knows how this politics game is played, immediately doubled down on Turnbull's comments by announcing that neat, in that case she'd move a private member's bill to this effect and how about Turnbull co-sponsor it with her, since he's so in favour of it and all?

The PM, who doesn't want homosexual freaks like his own sister sullying the flawless and magical institution of marriage, declined to comment other than to point out that he still supports "the traditional position" (by which we assume he means missionary?), indicating that there's not going to be any conscience vote on the subject any time soon. And that could well have been that.

Fortunately Cory Bernardi was there to ensure that no-one was in any doubt just how awesome and not insane he is.

"If Malcolm Turnbull wants to talk about fringe issues outside party policy, he should resign from the frontbench. Our longstanding party position is that marriage is between a man and a woman [and] Our frontbenchers need to reflect that in any comments they make. When you are a frontbencher there is no room for a personal view."

You hear that, estimated seven-in-ten Australians? You hold a fringe view.

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Post by Beekeeper on Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:56 am

:D    CORY BERNARDI !!!!!!!
Four foot tall and maybe 75lbs soaking wet...

Excuse me a moment while I   ://?roflmao?/:  

Here's a Liberal Party file photo' of that noxious little gnome that I've just come across:



WITH Abbott's personal support and approval ratings crashing down to around the 30% mark, I wouldn't be surprised to see him dumped in the first half of next year..

And THEN watch for Turnbull to 'do a Lazarus', and become Oz's next Tory P.M. next year ?   Arrow

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:39 am

@beekeeper
it would be quite a change to have Malcolm versus Tanya at the next election, two fairly decent politicians (if that is possible) that seem to be able to negotiate. much better than the 2 wet sacks we had in last election.

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