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DO YOU WANT THE SYRIAN REFUGEES IN OUR COUNTRY ?

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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:33 pm

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with the debate on here about the syrian refugees i thought a vote would be a good idea .

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:48 am

Tommy Monk wrote:A buffer zone is an entirely sound idea smelly.



and dodge... do you actually read what people say?

I said with support and military assistance.

A military buffer zone with a no fly over it would allow refugee camps to be safe secure and well supplied with food shelter and meds schools and field hospitals

I imagine it would cost significantly less than Wye watering 6 billion ,Germany has just flushed down the toilet

They could expand as needed and there would be no need to get involved in the actual war

A hard defensive perimeter where anything not waving a white flag dies - Assad forces,Isis,Kurds,al-q, human rights lawyers

Let Assad and the rest of em slug it out,while the civvies evacuate the combat zone to safe havens provided by western coalition forces.

They can be vetted correctly,disarmed and housed appropriately.

Get this crazy idea,they could even begin the process of politic resolution after the dust settles

But why would the bleeding heart liberals want that??

Their white liberal privileged guilt is far too precious to them

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:49 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:I think Lee Rigby's family would have been less disturbed had he been killed in action or a car accident as that is just life , but to have your child's head severed off by terrorists is not only pure evil it also goes against the expectations of life .

Losing a child is bad enough but to lose them to terrorists and in the barbaric manner they murder makes it worse if that can be possible .

didge comparing a car crash to terrorism is just making excuses to allow them in the country and you really need to think hard what you're saying really you're disturbed .



Again we are talking about Risk and you cannot answer simple question on Risk

So lets expand this for you


Okay how many people have been killed or injured by terrorist attacks here in the UK, in the last Year?
How many people have died in car crashes or been injured in the last Yea?

Do you drive a car?

The total number of casualties in road accidents reported to the police in 2013 was 183,670, down 6 per cent from the 2012 total.

Total reported child causalities (ages 0-15) fell by 9 per cent to 15,756 in 2013. The number of children killed or seriously injured also fell, decreasing by 13 per cent to 1,980 in 2013.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/324580/rrcgb-main-results-2013.pdf


How many casulaties for terrorism in the UK in 2013?

So do you place your grandchildren at risk by taking them in a car?



In case Dibs misses

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:52 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:A buffer zone is an entirely sound idea smelly.



and dodge... do you actually read what people say?

I said with support and military assistance.

A military buffer zone with a no fly over it would allow refugee camps to be safe secure and well supplied with food shelter and meds schools and field hospitals
Would it explain how this would be feesible and explain the actual area you are talking of?
I imagine it would cost significantly less than Wye watering 6 billion ,Germany has just flushed down the toilet
Again that depends on your answer above
They could expand as needed and there would be no need to get involved in the actual war
Could they, where is this area that is going to be free from harm?
A hard defensive perimeter where anything not waving a white flag dies - Assad forces,Isis,Kurds,al-q, human rights lawyers
Who is going to defend it or allow this where Russia is at odds with certain nations being involced?
Let Assad and the rest of em slug it out,while the civvies evacuate the combat zone to safe havens provided by western coalition forces.
See above
They can be vetted correctly,disarmed and housed appropriately.

Get this crazy idea,they could even begin the process of politic resolution after the dust settles

But why would the bleeding heart liberals want that??

Their white liberal privileged guilt is far too precious to them


Interesting idea Dutchman, but can it work in practice?

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:57 am

didge give it up eh you're just looking more and more stupid.

I and half the country can see the risk of taking these people in and we don't want them here if you do then fine but don't keep boring us with the excuses you keep dreaming up .

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:59 am

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:didge give it up eh you're just looking more and more stupid.

I and half the country can see the risk of taking these people in and we don't want them here if  you do then fine but don't keep boring us with the excuses you keep dreaming up .

But you do not understand risk as seen

People place their own children at greater risk by getting into a car, which is why your emotive reasoning is not going to get you out of your poor claims


So again

Again we are talking about Risk and you cannot answer simple question on Risk

So lets expand this for you


Okay how many people have been killed or injured by terrorist attacks here in the UK, in the last Year?
How many people have died in car crashes or been injured in the last Yea?

Do you drive a car?

The total number of casualties in road accidents reported to the police in 2013 was 183,670, down 6 per cent from the 2012 total.

Total reported child causalities (ages 0-15) fell by 9 per cent to 15,756 in 2013. The number of children killed or seriously injured also fell, decreasing by 13 per cent to 1,980 in 2013.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/324580/rrcgb-main-results-2013.pdf


How many casulaties for terrorism in the UK in 2013?

So do you place your grandchildren at risk by taking them in a car?


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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:04 pm

Not bothering with you didge, you want them here i don't nothing else to debate .


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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:05 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:Not bothering with you didge, you want them here i don't nothing else to debate .


Clearly my points has you very shook up after your last reply lol Dibs

No problem. You clearly have now grasped the point I am making in regards to risk and how people are being utterly hypocritical.

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:07 pm

What a stupid idea

The best way to solve this crisis is accepting all the migrants

Assad will soon crumble when he witnesses our warm open hearted generosity

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:07 pm

That is definately the way forward smelly.



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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:09 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:What a stupid idea

The best way to solve this crisis is accepting all the migrants

Assad will soon crumble when he witnesses our warm open hearted generosity


Still waiting for you to back up your interesting plan for a defense zone and the logistics behind this and costs.
Who will defend them and how many people you seek to protect and where?

I await your reasoning with anticipation

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:36 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:That is definately the way forward smelly.



For sure,but it won't ever happen

Europe and the world have gone down the "lets turn Germany into Syria" route

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:38 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:That is definately the way forward smelly.



For sure,but it won't ever happen

Europe and the world have gone down the "lets turn Germany into Syria" route

So after saying you have a wonderful plan, you cannot explain in detail the logistics etc involved. How so?

Is it the fact it would actually cost way more?

Buck buck buck.

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:41 pm

Didn't realise you are happy to put a price on Syrian refugees in need

And the true extent of liberal compassion is exposed


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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:47 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:Didn't realise you are happy to put a price on Syrian refugees in need

And the true extent of liberal compassion is exposed


Everything costs money Dutchman, when you propose an idea about a defensive zone. Which as seen your thinking did not extend to its implications. Hence why I am an actual planner and you are just a grunt.

Buck buck buck

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:05 pm

So go ahead and plan it then

You have the idea now lets hear how you are going to implement it

Break it down into cost,jurisdiction,logistics,location and everything else that will be needed

Come on Mr planner let's hear it

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:07 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:So go ahead and plan it then

You have the idea now lets hear how you are going to implement it

Break it down into cost,jurisdiction,logistics,location and everything else that will be needed

Come on Mr planner let's hear it


Its your plan Dutchman and now you want me to plan it out for you?

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Oh you really are as sharp as a coconut sunshine.

So you have no idea how to impliment the plan or the cost implications and claim it is a superb idea and it would save money?


One moment


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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:15 pm

Buck buck buck

Guess you're not that good a planner after all

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:17 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:Buck buck buck

Guess you're not that good a planner after all

I am very good Dutchman, but its clearly impossible to plan something without any details

ha ha ha ha ha ha

Like how many refugees are we talking about?
What area of land are we talking about?
Facilities?
Its dimensions?
I could go on the list is endless but you want me to plan something you have provided no detail on, where even worse you claim its the best plan without even thinking it through ha ha ha ha

Its possible it could be a good plan hence why I originally asked these very questions


Seriously you have made me laugh loads today where you have tried to sound smart lol


Thanks

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:51 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:Not bothering with you didge, you want them here i don't nothing else to debate .


Clearly my points has you very shook up after your last reply lol Dibs

No problem. You clearly have now grasped the point I am making in regards to risk and how people are being utterly hypocritical.

Not at all i have other things to do i am full time carer for both my parents so some things just bore me when all i really care about is my own family and not some refugees who are ungrateful .

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:54 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Clearly my points has you very shook up after your last reply lol Dibs

No problem. You clearly have now grasped the point I am making in regards to risk and how people are being utterly hypocritical.

Not at all i have other things to do i am full time carer for both my parents so some things just bore me when all i really care about is my own family and not some refugees who are ungrateful .

they are use to demanding, the moslims can't help themselves...

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Post by eddie on Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:59 pm

Moved to social issues

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:00 pm

It isn't just here is it ?


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