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Post by feelthelove on Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:07 pm

Britain may be unable to launch air strikes against Islamic State in Syria if Jeremy Corbyn becomes Labour leader, senior party figures and former military figures have warned.

David Cameron has repeatedly said he would not extend the current RAF operations against IS in Iraq – where it is operating at the invitation of the Baghdad government – unless he received the backing of Parliament.

In practice - with up to 30 Tory MPs likely to rebel against such a motion- that means he will almost certainly need the support of Labour to get it through the Commons.



However, at a leadership hustings on Thursday, Mr Corbyn – who has repeatedly voiced his opposition to air strikes – underlined his opposition to military interventions saying he could not envisage "any circumstances" in which he would support the deployment of British troops abroad.

Admiral Lord West of Spithead, a security minister in Gordon Brown's government and a former head of the Royal Navy told The Daily Telegraph that if Mr Corbyn won "it is unlikely that David Cameron will go to Parliament again because he will have people on his side voting against him. He doesn't want to risk another defeat".

General Lord Dannatt, a former head of the Army, told the paper a Corbyn victory "will make it much harder and far less likely for David Cameron to be able to get a vote for air intervention over Syria".

Adam Ingram, a former Labour armed forces minister, told the Telegraph that Mr Corbyn's opposition to bombing in Syria would "split not only the Labour Party but a large part of the Labour-supporting public, because the vast majority of British people understand that we have to tackle evil when we see it".

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/05/jeremy-corbyn-victory-cou_0_n_8092586.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn Victory 'Could Mean Britain Doesn't Bomb Islamic State In Syria'

Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:08 pm

Well you see, people don't know what they want do they? They want the atrocities in Syria to stop, but they don't actually want anyone to do anything about it. If the UK did nothing, some will say we're leaving the people there to die, and if the troops went in there, they will say that we're bombing civilians. There can be no question of troops going in without air cover, so bombing would have to be involved.

The people in Syria probably want someone to go in and help, but if the UK did, they'd say - well you bombed our country so you owe us something.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn Victory 'Could Mean Britain Doesn't Bomb Islamic State In Syria'

Post by smelly-bandit on Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:42 am

yes yes its much better that islamic state be allowed to commit mass murder and force millions from their homes

gotta love the lefts idea of humane

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn Victory 'Could Mean Britain Doesn't Bomb Islamic State In Syria'

Post by feelthelove on Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:34 pm

'I won't bomb ISIS': New Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn tells thousands at refugee rally he wants peace with jihadis - after popping into the pub to sing socialist anthem The Red Flag



Jeremy Corbyn this afternoon vowed to lead the opposition to any attempt to bomb ISIS in Syria as he called for a 'peaceful solution' to the threat from jihadi fanatics.

Hours after being named the new Labour leader, the leftwinger told tens of thousands of people in Parliament Square that he would not join the clamour to 'go here, invade there, bomb there, do this, do that'. The Tories immediately claimed Corbyn-led Labour was now a 'serious risk to national security'.

In the most extraordinary result in modern political history, the 66-year-old Marxist throwback who has never run anything in his life will now take charge of the party of Keir Hardie, Clement Atlee and Tony Blair.

There were cheers at the QEII Conference Centre in central London as it was confirmed that the unassuming Islington MP had defied all expectations – including his own – to become leader of Her Majesty's Official Opposition.

Supporters wept and punched the air, chanting 'Jez we did, Jez we did', after it emerged Mr Corbyn had taken 59.5 per cent of the vote - 251,417 of the 422,664 votes cast - against 19 per cent for Andy Burnham, 17 per cent for Yvette Cooper and just 4.5 per cent for Liz Kendall.

After thanking the unions, attacking the media, and accusing the Conservatives of 'social cleansing', Mr Corbyn took his supporters to the Sanctuary pub in Westminster for a victory drink where they hailed former socialist firebrand Tony Benn and sang the socialist Red Flag anthem.

But winning could be the easy part: While he was still addressing the leadership conference, the first resignations from the frontbench emerged as his critics warned he would be a 'f***ing disaster'.

Mr Corbyn will face big tests in the coming days and weeks on Tory plans to curb unions, cut benefits and join airstrikes against ISIS in Syria.  

Prime Minister David Cameron has vowed that ISIS must be destroyed 'in the interests of civilisation', insisting it must be 'degraded and destroyed and ultimately defeated' through military action in Syria on the scale seen in neighbouring Iraq.

But Mr Corbyn made clear his opposition to any suggestion that military action can help solve the refugee crisis which has seen millions of people displaced.

Conservative Defence Secretary Michael Fallon warned Labour was now a 'serious risk to national security'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3231747/New-Labour-leader-named.html

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn Victory 'Could Mean Britain Doesn't Bomb Islamic State In Syria'

Post by sassy on Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:14 pm

Another rubbish thread.  80% of the deaths are caused by the actions of Assad.  Both sides are totally inhumane, bomb ISIS and Assad kills more, barrel bombing from helicopters, ISIS don't have regime helicopters, bomb Assad and ISIS kills more.  Listening to the Syrian people who want a no-fly zone to bein with so they are not afraid of being blown up all the time is a start, from there brains are necessary to work out a way to stop both sides, not just one.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn Victory 'Could Mean Britain Doesn't Bomb Islamic State In Syria'

Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:27 pm

A no fly zone just let's ISIS carry on with impunity on the ground... murdering, robbing, raping women and children And openly selling them as slaves in markets.



People were against the last govt proposals on action in Syria because it was a proposal to arm and support the Syrian rebels/ISIS/terrorists!!!


It was not a proposal for direct military action against ISIS/terrorists!!!



So Corbyn wants more mass immigration, more EU, more borrowing, higher taxes on already struggling working people, and to sit back and allow ISIS terrorists a free pass...



And the lunatic labour members actually support all this...!?


lol!



And no surprise there as it is exactly the same as the agenda they were following anyway!!!



Meet the new boss... same as the old boss!!!



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Re: Jeremy Corbyn Victory 'Could Mean Britain Doesn't Bomb Islamic State In Syria'

Post by feelthelove on Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:40 pm

Jeremy Corbyn Under Pressure To Give Labour MPs Free Vote On Syria Airstrikes



Jeremy Corbyn is under pressure to allow Labour MPs a free vote on launching military action against Isis in Syria.

Britain is currently carrying out airstrikes against Islamic militants in Iraq. David Cameron has indicated he will ask parliament to allow him to extend those strikes over the border into Syria.

Corbyn has voiced deep skepticism about the idea of an increased bombing campaign, but many Labour MPs agree with the prime minister that strikes against Isis need to be expanded.

One Labour MP told The Huffington Post UK that "he's got to allow a free vote: If he doesn't he could lose half his shadow cabinet".

A shadow cabinet minister told the Sunday Times: "There is a majority in the Commons for airstrikes in Syria if Cameron has a proper plan for targeting Isis. You would get half the shadow cabinet supporting it."

A free vote would mean Labour MPs would be allowed to vote with the government even if Corbyn argued against Cameron's position.

Backing intervention would put Labour MPs at odds with their new leader, who has just ended a stint as chairman of the Stop the War Coalition.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/20/jeremy-corbyn-faces-shadow-cabinet-split-over-bombing-syria_n_8164988.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn Victory 'Could Mean Britain Doesn't Bomb Islamic State In Syria'

Post by nicko on Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:37 pm

Sassy knows what we should do, she's an expert on military affairs.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:37 pm

There's no point having random airstrikes anyway. That will just mean more people wanting to come here because they'll say we bombed them.

Are the strikes having much effect in Iraq?

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn Victory 'Could Mean Britain Doesn't Bomb Islamic State In Syria'

Post by eddie on Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:53 pm

What if, and I'm sincerely meaning this, we tried Corbyn's way with ISIS.....and it worked?
The current way of doing things isn't working, is it?

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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:04 pm

nicko wrote:Sassy knows what we should do,    she's an expert on military affairs.

Good evening Nicko.

Sassy & Didge have got it all worked out.....from the safety of their laptops.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:25 pm

eddie wrote:What if, and I'm sincerely meaning this, we tried Corbyn's way with ISIS.....and it worked?
The current way of doing things isn't working, is it?

What exactly is his way? To let them get on with it, and just let in all the people "fleeing" from Syria and Iraq?

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