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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:58 am

The first drug that can halt the progression of Alzheimer’s disease if caught early is expected to be unveiled this week. Trials have been ongoing into a new treatment called Solanezumab which appears to stop the degenerative disease in its tracks. The results will be announced by drugs giant Eli Lilly on at the Alzheimer’s Association International Conference on Wednesday morning but if positive it will be the first drug proven to be effective for treating dementia.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11749641/Have-scientists-found-a-drug-to-stop-Alzheimers-disease.html

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:26 am

An experimental drug with side effects - some people on here won't like that. Cool

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:23 pm

thicko Rolling Eyes

tell me ragga, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

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Post by eddie on Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:42 pm

Hmmm in about two years time they'll take it off the market because it makes you grow another tit or something most likely Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:44 pm

eddie wrote:Hmmm in about two years time they'll take it off the market because it makes you grow another tit or something most likely Rolling Eyes


Take off the market?
A thirt tit would no doubt create a lucrative trade in the medicine.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:45 pm

Well as long as its all VOLUNTEERS taking it all's good

of course SOME on here would force people to take it against their wishes....just to save a few pounds on sickness benefits for their greedy masters to stash away. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:48 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:Hmmm in about two years time they'll take it off the market because it makes you grow another tit or something most likely Rolling Eyes


Take off the market?
A thirt tit would no doubt create a lucrative trade in the medicine.

you only have two hands didge...... Laughing

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:53 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
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Take off the market?
A thirt tit would no doubt create a lucrative trade in the medicine.

you only have two hands didge...... Laughing


Too true.   Laughing

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:08 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:An experimental drug with side effects - some people on here won't like that. Cool

Like who? I think this is fantastic news, Alzheimer's is terrible.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:50 am

victorismyhero wrote:Well as long as its all VOLUNTEERS taking it all's good

of course SOME on here would force people to take it against their wishes....just to save a few pounds on sickness benefits for their greedy masters to stash away. Rolling Eyes

So tell me - why would anyone choose to go down the road of having a degenerative disease like that rather than try a drug which could really help to stop it progressing?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:58 am

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Raggamuffin wrote:An experimental drug with side effects - some people on here won't like that. Cool

Like who? I think this is fantastic news, Alzheimer's is terrible.

Oh, just some people on here who are more concerned with the downside of drugs than the benefits.

Interestingly, the trials of this drug failed at first. It just shows how drug companies can take a big gamble on whether a drug will get approval or not. Time will tell if it really does have any benefits.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-26/deep-in-the-cave-lilly-s-ceo-decided-alzheimer-s-drug-s-fate

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:41 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:Well as long as its all VOLUNTEERS taking it all's good

of course SOME on here would force people to take it against their wishes....just to save a few pounds on sickness benefits for their greedy masters to stash away. Rolling Eyes

So tell me - why would anyone choose to go down the road of having a degenerative disease like that rather than try a drug which could really help to stop it progressing?
Perhaps, they are commited veggies...who live up to their beliefs, instead of being total hypocrits like some on here who call them selves vegetarians, but wear wool, leather AND worse still use medicines which were tested on animals...

what one might call veggies of convenience.......

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:42 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
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So tell me - why would anyone choose to go down the road of having a degenerative disease like that rather than try a drug which could really help to stop it progressing?
Perhaps, they are commited veggies...who live up to their beliefs, instead of being total hypocrits like some on here who call them selves vegetarians, but wear wool, leather AND worse still use medicines which were tested on animals...

what one might call veggies of convenience.......

I don't think so Victor. Even Linda McCartney took medication.

I don't wear leather by the way, and I'm not very keen on wool.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:54 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:
Perhaps, they are commited veggies...who live up to their beliefs, instead of being total hypocrits like some on here who call them selves vegetarians, but wear wool, leather AND worse still use medicines which were tested on animals...

what one might call veggies of convenience.......

I don't think so Victor. Even Linda McCartney took medication.

In which case she is a hypocrit, doing what she does, not out of any regard for animals but for the financial benefit of herself

I don't wear leather by the way, and I'm not very keen on wool.
so you use artificial fibres and materials ...made from ......oil...very animal friendly indeed.....

you cant win ragga



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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:58 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't think so Victor. Even Linda McCartney took medication.

In which case she is a hypocrit, doing what she does, not out of any regard for animals but for the financial benefit of herself

I don't wear leather by the way, and I'm not very keen on wool.
so you use artificial fibres and materials ...made from ......oil...very animal friendly indeed.....

you cant win ragga



Er .. you mean "was". Linda McCartney died a long time ago. She did have issues with taking medication, but she had cancer, so I think she can be forgiven.

So you won't take biologics - is that because you're concerned about animal testing?

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:11 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Er .. you mean "was". Linda McCartney died a long time ago. She did have issues with taking medication, but she had cancer, so I think she can be forgiven.

No...she cant be forgiven....one cannot be a "little bit" hypocritical...If she beleived in what she reckoned to stand for she would not have taken meds..As it was when the chips were down she proved to be nothing more than yet another celeb big mouth hypocrit, prepared to sacrifice her beliefs for herself..

So you won't take biologics - is that because you're concerned about animal testing?

NO....whilst I find it regretable that there is no proper alternative YET I realise that animal testing is vital to the supply of safe drugs so I can live with that aspect,
My objection to the biologics is that they are potentially worse than methotrexate in terms of side effects AND also since they are very new on the market there is still insufficient real life data available on them......



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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:13 pm

You probably wouldn't be given biologics for such a mild condition anyway - and without trying methotrexate first. They're quite expensive.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:26 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:You probably wouldn't be given biologics for such a mild condition anyway - and without trying methotrexate first. They're quite expensive.

I was offered them...or methotrexate....and refused either....the consultant agreed with me....

Oh and PA is not "mild" it is however very variable and unpredictable....

some days you are ok, others you cant walk, or maybe cant use your hands or maybe cant raise your arms up ....

It kinda "wanders around your body" inflaming joints seemingly at random and for no particular reason.....

that is the worst of it...you dont know from one day to the next if you are going to have a "good day" or not

which is why being self employed (and only needing to be part time on it since i have taken some pensions) suits me well..... Laughing

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:30 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:You probably wouldn't be given biologics for such a mild condition anyway - and without trying methotrexate first. They're quite expensive.

I was offered them...or methotrexate....and refused either....the consultant agreed with me....

Oh and PA is not "mild"  it is however very variable and unpredictable....

some days you are ok, others you cant walk, or maybe cant use your hands or maybe cant raise your arms up ....

It kinda "wanders around your body" inflaming joints seemingly at random and for no particular reason.....

that is the worst of it...you dont know from one day to the next if you are going to have a "good day" or not

which is why being self employed (and only needing to be part time on it since i have taken some pensions) suits me well..... Laughing

I don't mean the condition itself is mild, just that someone might have it mildly. If you don't have it badly enough to take medication, fair enough.

Biologics are usually second-line treatment after a DMARD has been tried.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:02 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:You probably wouldn't be given biologics for such a mild condition anyway - and without trying methotrexate first. They're quite expensive.

I was offered them...or methotrexate....and refused either....the consultant agreed with me....

Oh and PA is not "mild"  it is however very variable and unpredictable....

some days you are ok, others you cant walk, or maybe cant use your hands or maybe cant raise your arms up ....

It kinda "wanders around your body" inflaming joints seemingly at random and for no particular reason.....

that is the worst of it...you dont know from one day to the next if you are going to have a "good day" or not

which is why being self employed (and only needing to be part time on it since i have taken some pensions) suits me well..... Laughing

Victor, it's interesting that some people with psoriasis also get the joint involvement. Do you consider that it's part of the same disease, or do you think that having one autoimmune disease makes someone prone to another one?


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