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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:29 am

Biologists have used conservative new estimates to prove that vertebrate species on Earth are disappearing faster than at any time since the extinction of the dinosaurs, and humans are now at risk of being wiped out.

"[The study] shows without any significant doubt that we are now entering the sixth great mass extinction event," one of the researchers, Paul Ehrlich from Stanford University in the US, said in a press release. Even worse, the research shows that we triggered the event ourselves.

Although many biologists have long believed that Earth is in the middle of a major extinction event, skeptics have argued that estimates were overstating how fast species were being wiped out as a result of inconsistent data.

Scientists work out whether we're in a major extinction event by comparing the current extinction rate to the background extinction rate - the rate at which you'd expect species to normally disappear.

By looking only at well-verified data and fossil records of vertebrates - our best-studied group of organisms - the new research came up with a background extinction rate that's twice as high as previous estimates.

But even using this background rate and the most conservative species loss estimates, the researchers found that animals are still being wiped out around 15 to 100 times faster than they should be - in fact, the rate of species loss hasn't been this high since the dinosaurs disappeared 65 million years ago.

http://www.sciencealert.com/it-s-official-we-re-on-the-brink-of-earth-s-sixth-mass-extinction

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:47 am

is it natural or is it part of an agenda..

http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:07 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:is it natural or is it part of an agenda..

http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/

Whose agenda?

New rule -- you have to back your shit up with real evidence if you don't want to be ridiculed.

Actually I think that's an unspoken rule we've been enforcing all along ...

So yeah, you're full of shit, dude. Talk about the species going extinct.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:10 pm

Sorry, but I realize where this is going so I have to say more.

Anybody who really wanted to keep the human population at that small a size would not be responsible for killing off animal species.

So, back to the drawing board for you.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:20 pm

Sorry, just wanted to add something. I guess what I'm really asking for, HF, is an argument that stands a chance of convincing not just people who you agree with, but infidel heathens like myself as well. I think that's the real point of having this site -- you try to convince me, I try to convince you.

Whoever has the best argument, as far as something that could convince any average bystander, wins the debate.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:25 pm

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heavenlyfatheragain wrote:is it natural or is it part of an agenda..

http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/

Whose agenda?

New rule -- you have to back your shit up with real evidence if you don't want to be ridiculed.

Actually I think that's an unspoken rule we've been enforcing all along ...

So yeah, you're full of shit, dude. Talk about the species going extinct.

haven't we yet decided that evidence is a point of view, some we accept some we do not and it is based on our bias.. maybe not..

do the guide stones exist ...yes

do they talk of a human culling...yes...

is the information available on many other sites...yes...

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:01 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Sorry, just wanted to add something. I guess what I'm really asking for, HF, is an argument that stands a chance of convincing not just people who you agree with, but infidel heathens like myself as well. I think that's the real point of having this site -- you try to convince me, I try to convince you.

Whoever has the best argument, as far as something that could convince any average bystander, wins the debate.

The Georgia Guidestones are there for all to see , and all about massive depopulation . I don't think it's there as a joke somehow , if it is then i don't think it is at all funny .

The VC site is as good as anyone else's links and just because you don't believe it many do find it interesting .

For instance why was a new airport built in Denver when they had a perfectly good airport ?

http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-denver-international-airport/

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:16 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Sorry, just wanted to add something. I guess what I'm really asking for, HF, is an argument that stands a chance of convincing not just people who you agree with, but infidel heathens like myself as well. I think that's the real point of having this site -- you try to convince me, I try to convince you.

Whoever has the best argument, as far as something that could convince any average bystander, wins the debate.

The Georgia Guidestones are there for all to see , and all about massive depopulation . I don't think it's there as a joke somehow , if it is then i don't think it is at all funny .

The VC site is as good as anyone else's links and just because you don't believe it many do find it interesting .

For instance why was a new airport built in Denver when they had a perfectly good airport ?

http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-denver-international-airport/


as i said it is what evidence they decide to accept..

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:54 am

HF, do you discount the entire process of deciding which evidence to accept and which to reject? Are you trying to say that all evidence is the same?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:59 am

Also, the Guidestones could very well have just been the work of a rich crazy person. Nobody knows who commissioned them or why. And I don't think they necessarily call for a culling of humanity -- here's the text:

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.

Unite humanity with a living new language.

Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.

Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Balance personal rights with social duties.

Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.

Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

Most of that stuff sounds OK to me. We could voluntarily reduce the world's population to 500 million without having to kill people off, you know. 50 to 60 million people die every year.

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:30 am

http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/bye-bye-birdie-civilisation-will-collapse-in-2040-apparently/story-e6frflp0-1227410724306

With the world’s population set to hit nine billion by 2050, demands on the Earth to meet food and water supplies could be stretched so tightly humankind will implode on itself; causing civil wars, relentless terrorism and heightened weather events that will leave the world in tatters.

Supported by the British and US governments the Food System Shock report, released by Lloyds this week and developed by Anglia Ruskin University’s Global Sustainability Institute in the UK, suggests a cataclysmic series of events will sweep the world, triggered by a combination of climate change, food and water shortages, energy loss and political instability.

The report, written for the insurance industry, was published in order to assess the risks associated with a global food supply shortage, which is “considered plausible on the basis of past events” and “heightening political instability”.

The theory focuses on the world’s agricultural model and the “increasing pressure” to match supply to demand, as the global population peaks at 9 billion by 2050

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:26 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:HF, do you discount the entire process of deciding which evidence to accept and which to reject? Are you trying to say that all evidence is the same?

more or less yes, it is how we decide to quantify it that makes it viable as evidence to us...

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:51 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:HF, do you discount the entire process of deciding which evidence to accept and which to reject? Are you trying to say that all evidence is the same?

more or less yes, it is how we decide to quantify it that makes it viable as evidence to us...

It kind of sounds like you're agreeing with me. Evidence which is supportable has value; evidence with no support has no value.

Determining whether evidence has value isn't just putting on a blindfold and whacking a pinata -- there's a logical system to appraising evidence. I know; I do it for a living.

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