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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:44 pm

From last year .



More claims of divine intervention are being reported in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, with an operator of Israel’s Iron Dome missile-defense system saying he personally witnessed “the hand of God” diverting an incoming rocket out of harm’s way.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/#3GdrBVDcJ0jdxMfi.99





http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:12 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:From last year .



More claims of divine intervention are being reported in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, with an operator of Israel’s Iron Dome missile-defense system saying he personally witnessed “the hand of God” diverting an incoming rocket out of harm’s way.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/#3GdrBVDcJ0jdxMfi.99





http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/

God will protect his own...

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:13 pm

time and again Amen

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Post by Eilzel on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:59 pm

Shame he didn't divert the hand Hitler... Oh yes. God works in mysterious ways lol

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:03 pm

Eilzel wrote:Shame he didn't divert the hand Hitler... Oh yes. God works in mysterious ways lol

I thought even you weren't capable of mocking genocide to make a cheap point...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:08 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:From last year .



More claims of divine intervention are being reported in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, with an operator of Israel’s Iron Dome missile-defense system saying he personally witnessed “the hand of God” diverting an incoming rocket out of harm’s way.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/#3GdrBVDcJ0jdxMfi.99





http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/

God will protect his own...

I thought we were all his own.

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Re: Hand of God sent missile into sea

Post by Guest on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:34 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

God will protect his own...

I thought we were all his own.

not until you chose to be...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:39 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I thought we were all his own.

not until you chose to be...

I mean that the people of Israel are no more God's own than anyone else.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:45 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

not until you chose to be...

I mean that the people of Israel are no more God's own than anyone else.

that's an interesting topic as they are God's chosen...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:49 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I mean that the people of Israel are no more God's own than anyone else.

that's an interesting topic as they are God's chosen...

Ah, well I'm no Zionist, and I don't really believe that God has chosen certain people over others.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:20 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

that's an interesting topic as they are God's chosen...

Ah, well I'm no Zionist, and I don't really believe that God has chosen certain people over others.

yeah some believe they are automatically saved, some think they still must accept Jesus...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:35 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Ah, well I'm no Zionist, and I don't really believe that God has chosen certain people over others.

yeah some believe they are automatically saved, some think they still must accept Jesus...

That's still not what I mean. You take the view that the Jews or people of Israel are chosen by God above all others who also believe in God.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:50 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

yeah some believe they are automatically saved, some think they still must accept Jesus...

That's still not what I mean. You take the view that the Jews or people of Israel are chosen by God above all others who also believe in God.

oh i see what you mean.... everyone has equal access to God but I do believe the Jews were first...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:07 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That's still not what I mean. You take the view that the Jews or people of Israel are chosen by God above all others who also believe in God.

oh i see what you mean.... everyone has equal access to God but I do believe the Jews were first...

Even though they have rejected Jesus?

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Post by eddie on Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:20 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I mean that the people of Israel are no more God's own than anyone else.

that's an interesting topic as they are God's chosen...

Ah, well I'm no Zionist, and I don't really believe that God has chosen certain people over others.

Absolutely not, me neither!

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:37 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

oh i see what you mean.... everyone has equal access to God but I do believe the Jews were first...

Even though they have rejected Jesus?

i mean they got the message first, they chose or many of them chose not to believe on Jesus... the gentiles recieved the word and many of them believed...

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:58 am

There is no hand of God in any of this and such claims are what helps continue such violence when people claim they are chosen.
If they believe they are chosen then they actually back racism, to be chosen would mean special and thus superior to others.
It is the religious aspect on both sides, Zionism and Islam, which denies peace more than anything.

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Post by eddie on Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:02 am

There's no hand of God - full stop.
If you are to believe in a Gos then you have to ask yourself why would he choose one side over another?


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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:05 am

I believe there is .

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:08 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

yeah some believe they are automatically saved, some think they still must accept Jesus...

That's still not what I mean. You take the view that the Jews or people of Israel are chosen by God above all others who also believe in God.

I believe God is protecting Israel because of bible prophecy .

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:09 am

eddie wrote:There's no hand of God - full stop.
If you are to believe in a Gos then you have to ask yourself why would he choose one side over another?


you can't say there is no hand of God...

the jews are his chosen people, do you think he would not help them..

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:33 am

It would help id there were witnesses to corraborate this...

otherwise its no more significant than the desert hilbilly saying he saw a flying saucer....

I mean ....I could say that today the great green bog brush saved me from the pink bath mat.....

would that be credible????

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Post by eddie on Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:13 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
eddie wrote:There's no hand of God - full stop.
If you are to believe in a Gos then you have to ask yourself why would he choose one side over another?


you can't say there is no hand of God...

the jews are his chosen people, do you think he would not help them..

If Jews are his "chosen people".....why haven't you converted to Judasism?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:48 am

I don't think they're his chosen people, otherwise why would any of his apostles bothered to spread the word?

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Re: Hand of God sent missile into sea

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:01 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:From last year .



More claims of divine intervention are being reported in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, with an operator of Israel’s Iron Dome missile-defense system saying he personally witnessed “the hand of God” diverting an incoming rocket out of harm’s way.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/#3GdrBVDcJ0jdxMfi.99





http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hand-of-god-sent-missile-into-sea/
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:05 am

God’s chosen people Question: "What does it mean that the Jews are God’s chosen people?"

Answer: God’s Word affirms that the Jews are God’s chosen people: “You are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession” (Deuteronomy 7:6). From eternity past God knew that He would need to be born into the human race in order to save us from the spiritually dead condition that we were in (Ephesians 1—2; Genesis 3). God had planned from the beginning to be born into a very small nation or race of people called the Jews. The Old Testament tells the story of how God set about creating, distinguishing, and preserving that race.

The ultimate goal of God’s choice of the Jews as His chosen people was to produce the Messiah, Jesus Christ, who would be the Savior of the world. Jesus had to come from some nation or people, and God chose Israel. God first promised the Savior/Messiah after Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis 3). Later, God specified that the Messiah would come from the line of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Genesis 12). Later still, He narrowed the Messiah’s ancestry to the line of David (2 Samuel 7). Throughout their history, the people of Israel were aware of their “chosen” status before God (see 1 Kings 3:8; 8:53; Psalm 105:43; Isaiah 43:4; 65:9; and Amos 3:2). The fact that God has an eternal future for Israel is evident in that five sixths of the Bible bears directly or indirectly upon them—Jesus being the central figure who brought the Jews and Gentiles together (Ephesians 2:14).

The fact that the Jews are God’s chosen people means that they have been held to a high standard. From those who are given much, much is required (Luke 12:48), or as God said through one prophet, “You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your sins” (Amos 3:2).

Israel’s responsibilities have included keeping and preserving the Law (Joshua 22:5); being “a kingdom of priests and a holy nation” (Exodus 19:6); and bringing “renown and praise and honor” to the Lord (Jeremiah 13:11). Their high calling is straight from the God who chose them out of all the nations of the earth.


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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:14 am

at least 10% of ballistic missiles must be assumed to fail prior to reaching their targets.

American strategic missile systems such as the Poseidon and Minuteman are reported to suffer failure rates of at least 5% to 10%. The American Harpoon medium range cruise missile has demonstrated a reliability approaching 90%, following almost 50 test flights which initially demonstrated a 50% reliability.(38) And strategic nuclear exchange calculations use failure rates as high as 20%

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:21 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
eddie wrote:There's no hand of God - full stop.
If you are to believe in a Gos then you have to ask yourself why would he choose one side over another?


you can't say there is no hand of God...

the jews are his chosen people, do you think he would not help them..


He hasnt so far how many jews killed over the years .you would think he might have stepped in at


According to data presented in the table below, an estimated 4,251,500 people lost their lives in the camps.


1 Alderney Channel Islands Labour camps Jan 1942 – Jun 1944 6,000 700 Lager Borkum, Lager Helgoland, Lager Norderney, Lager Sylt [2]
2 Amersfoort Netherlands Transit camp and prison Aug 1941 – Apr 1945 35,000 1,000 [3]
3 Arbeitsdorf Germany Labour camp 8 Apr 1942 – 11 Oct 1942 600 min. none
4 Auschwitz-Birkenau Poland Extermination and labour camp Apr 1940 – Jan 1945 135,000 min.[4] in August 1944 1,100,000 min.[5] out of 6,000,000 rec. arrivals [6] list of 48 sub-camps with description at the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum [7] [4] [5] [7] [6]
5 Banjica Serbia Concentration camp Jun 1941 – Sep 1944 23,637 3,849[8]
6 Bardufoss Norway Concentration camp Mar 1944 – ???? 800 250 [citation needed]
7 Bełżec Poland Extermination camp Oct 1941 – Jun 1943   434,508 min. [4]
8 Berga an der Elster (Berga, Thuringia) Germany Labour camp; Buchenwald subcamp
9 Bergen-Belsen Germany Collection point Apr 1943 – Apr 1945   70,000 2 [5]
10 Berlin-Marzahn Germany Early a "rest place" then labour camp for Roma July 1936 –     none [6]
11 Bernburg Germany Collection point Apr 1942 – Apr 1945   100,000 2
12 Bogdanovka Ukraine Concentration camp 1941 54,000 40,000
13 Bolzano Italy Transit Jul 1944 – Apr 1945 11,116  
14 Bredtvet Norway Concentration camp Fall, 1941 – May, 1944 1,000 min. ???? none
15 Breendonk Belgium Prison and labour camp 20 Sep 1940 – Sep 1944 3532 min. 391 min. none [7]
16 Breitenau Germany "Early wild camp", then labour camp Jun 1933 – Mar 1934,
1940–1945 470 – 8500   [8]
17 Buchenwald Germany Labour camp Jul 1937 – Apr 1945 250,000 56,000 list [9]
18 Chełmno
(Kulmhof) Poland Extermination camp Dec 1941 – Apr 1943,
Apr 1944 – Jan 1945   152,000 min. [10]
19 Crveni krst Serbia Concentration camp 1941–1944 30,000 10,000
20 Dachau Germany Labour camp Mar 1933 – Apr 1945 200,000 31,591 list [11]
21 Drancy France Internment camp, transit 20 Aug 1941 – 17 Aug 1944 70,000 Three of five Paris annexes: Austerlitz, Lévitan and Bassano camps [12]
22 Falstad Norway Prison camp Dec 1941 – May 1945 200 min. none [13]
23 Flößberg (Frohburg) Germany Labour camp; Buchenwald subcamp November 1944 – Apr 1945 1904 235 min. [14]
24 Flossenbürg Germany Labour camp May 1938 – Apr 1945 100,000 min. 30,000 list [15]
25 Fort de Romainville France Prison and transit camp 1940 – Aug 1945 8,100 min. 200 min. none [16]
26 Fort VII (Poznań) Poland Concentration, detention, transit Oct 1939 – Apr 1944 18,000 min. 4,500 min. [17]
27 Fossoli Italy Prison and transit camp 5 Dec 1943 – Nov 1944 2,800
28 Grini Norway Prison camp 2 May 1941 – May 1945 19,788 8 Fannrem
Bardufoss
Kvænangen
29 Gross-Rosen Poland Labour camp; Nacht und Nebel camp Aug 1940 – Feb 1945 125,000 40,000 list [18]
30 Herzogenbusch
(Vught) Netherlands Concentration camp 1943 – Summer 1944 31,000 750 list [19]
31 Hinzert Germany Collection point and subcamp Jul 1940 – Mar 1945 14,000 302 min. [20]
32 Jägala Estonia Labour camp Aug 1942 – Aug 1943 200 3,000 none [21]
33 Janowska
(Lwów) Ukraine Ghetto; transit, labour, & extermination camp Sep 1941 – Nov 1943   40,000 min. none [22]
(see "A-Z")
34 Jasenovac concentration camp Croatia Extermination camp for Jews, Serbs, Croats and Roma[9] 1941–1945 99,000 [10] Stara Gradiška concentration camp, Sisak children's concentration camp, Donja Gradina, Jasenovac main [23]
35 Kaiserwald
(Mežaparks) Latvia Labour camp 1942 – 6 Aug 1944 20,000? 16,
incl. Eleja-Meitenes [24]
36 Kaufering/Landsberg Germany Labour camp Jun 1943 – Apr 1945 30,000 14,500 min. [25]
37 Kauen
(Kaunas) Lithuania Ghetto and internment camp ???? Prawienischken [26]
38 Kemna Germany Early concentration camp Jun 1933 – Jan 1944 4,500 none [27]
39 Klooga Estonia Labour camp Summer 1943 – 28 Sep 1944 2,400
40 Koldichevo Belarus Labour camp Summer 1942 – Jun 1944 22,000
41 Langenstein-Zwieberge Germany Buchenwald subcamp Apr 1944 – Apr 1945 5,000 2,000
42 Le Vernet France Internment camp 1939–1944    
43 Majdanek
(KZ Lublin) Poland Extermination camp Jul 1941 – Jul 1944   78,000 [28]
44 Malchow Germany Labour and Transit camp Winter 1943 – 8 May 1945 5,000  
45 Maly Trostenets Belarus Extermination camp Jul 1941 – Jun 1944   206,500 (official)
65,000 [29]
[30]
46 Mauthausen-Gusen Austria Labour camp Aug 1938 – May 1945 195,000 95,000 min. list [31]
47 Mechelen Belgium Transit camp July 1942 – Sep 1944 25267 min.[11] 300 min.[12] none [32]
48 Mittelbau-Dora Germany Labour camp Sep 1943 – Apr 1945 60,000 20,000 min. list [33]
49 Mittelsteine Poland Labour camp; Gross-Rosen subcamp Aug 1944 – April 1945 300–1,000 10–20 none [34]
50 Natzweiler-Struthof (Struthof) France Labour camp; Nacht und Nebel camp; extermination camp May 1941 – Sep 1944 40,000 25,000 list L'historique du camp de Natzweiler-Struthof par Roger Boulanger, 2006.
51 Neuengamme Germany Labour camp 13 Dec 1938 – 4 May 1945 106,000 42,900+ list [35]
52 Niederhagen Germany Prison and labour camp Sep 1941 – early 1943 3,900 1,285 none [36]
53 Oberer Kuhberg Germany Concentration camp Nov 1933 – 1935 0 Former infantry base Gleißelstetten (Fortress of Ulm) [37]
54 Ohrdruf Germany Labour and concentration camp; Buchenwald subcamp Nov 1944 – Apr 1945 11,700 [38]
55 Oranienburg Germany Early concentration camp Mar 1933 – Jul 1934 3,000 16 min.
56 Osthofen Germany Collective point Mar 1933 – Jul 1934    
57 Płaszów Poland Labour camp Dec 1942 – Jan 1945 150,000 min. 9,000 min. list
58 Ravensbrück Germany Labour camp for women May 1939 – Apr 1945 150,000 90,000 min. list [39][40]
59 Risiera di San Sabba
(Trieste) Italy Police detainment camp Sep 1943 – 29 Apr 1945 25,000 5,000 [41]
56 Sachsenhausen Germany Labour camp Jul 1936 – Apr 1945 200,000 min. 100,000 list [42]
61 Sajmište Serbia Extermination camp Oct 1941 – Jul 1944 92,000 23,000–47,000
62 Salaspils (Kirchholm ) Latvia Labour camp Oct 1941 – Summer 1944 2,000 [43]
63 Skrochowitz
(Skrochovice) Czech Republic Transit (1939) and labour camp Sept 1939 - Dec 1939, 1940–1943 1939:700 1939:13 [44]
64 Sobibór Poland Extermination camp May 1942 – Oct 1943   200,000 max. [45]
65 Soldau Poland Labour; Transit camp Winter 1939/40 – Jan 1945 30,000 13,000
66 Stutthof Poland Labour camp Sep 1939 – May 1945 110,000 65,000 list [46]
67 Theresienstadt
(Terezín) Czech Republic Transit camp and Ghetto Nov 1941 – May 1945 140,000 35,000 min. [47]
68 Treblinka Poland Extermination camp Jul 1942 – Nov 1943   870,000 [48]
69 Vaivara Estonia Concentration and transit camp 15 Sep 1943 – 29 Feb 1944 20,000 950 22 [49] [50]
70 Warsaw Poland Labour and extermination camp 1942–1944 400,000 max. 200,000 max.
71 Westerbork Netherlands Transit camp May 1940 – Apr 1945 102,000
chosen yes to be exterminate it looks like

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